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Keep a 4080s or take a 5070ti?

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If you find yourself choosing whether to keep a 4080 super (you are within the return period Amazon) and buy a 5070ti at a smaller price of the 4080super, what would you do? i play in 4k but i also love vg gaming, In vR the fastest memories of the 5070ths can make the difference or rather the Cuda Core in more than the 4080s?
and also considering that a 5070ti is good overclockable and can overcome a 4080?
 
They're about the same performance so it's whatever it's cheaper. I'd lean towards 5070 Ti by virtue of being newer, more efficient and supporting newer tech.
 
IMO, don't get rid of the 4080 SUPER if you can help it. The performance is almost identical between the two and you'll probably be paying scalper prices if you go with the 5070 Ti. Additionally, the latter deprecates PhysX and 32-bit CUDA support, though IDK if that matters to you since not everyone plays games that old.

Admittedly, IDK how much MFG matters in your case, and if it matters at all, you can probably stomach going for the 5070 Ti if you can somehow avoid scalper pricing. The 50 series might also be driver supported for longer than the 40 series in case you plan on keeping your GPU around for awhile.
 
Keep the 4080 Super, there are no benefits for you to sidestep onto a 5070 Ti IMHO
 
Keep it, and wait until Nvidia figure out their drivers
 
IMO, don't get rid of the 4080 SUPER if you can help it. The performance is almost identical between the two and you'll probably be paying scalper prices if you go with the 5070 Ti. Additionally, the latter deprecates PhysX and 32-bit CUDA support, though IDK if that matters to you since not everyone plays games that old.

Admittedly, IDK how much MFG matters in your case, and if it matters at all, you can probably stomach going for the 5070 Ti if you can somehow avoid scalper pricing. The 50 series might also be driver supported for longer than the 40 series in case you plan on keeping your GPU around for awhile.
imo MFG on 5070Ti is useful only on a 240hz+ 1440p panel.
 
5070 Ti is NOT an upgrade at all over a 4080. Do not waste your money.
 
5070 Ti is NOT an upgrade at all over a 4080. Do not waste your money.
It pretty much is, same perf, more features, better power efficiency. If he can get it cheaper too and return the 4080 what exactly is your problem?
 
Keep the 4080 Super ofcourse, what were you thinking...

It pretty much is, same perf, more features, better power efficiency. If he can get it cheaper too and return the 4080 what exactly is your problem?
More features? They dropped freaking 32-Bit PhysX support, and you have a chance of a defect chip with less performance.

More features... pfff.
 
Keep the 4080 Super ofcourse, what were you thinking...


More features? They dropped freaking 32-Bit PhysX support, and you have a chance of a defect chip with less performance.

More features... pfff.
Not sure how many people buy $1000 2025 GPUs to run games from 2010... but OK.

As for the defect chip thing it's 100% returnable and a fraction of a percent incidence rate, so I wouldn't be inclined to stay up all night worrying.
 
Unless returning the 4080s and taking the 5070 ti can bring you some decent cash saving, just keep the 4080s. You do not have to return the card and wait for the new one to come in, ease of mind.

Also, the better memory won't make much of a difference, so if you do not plan on using DLSS4 and frame gen, just keep the 4080s.
 
Yeah, 100% all about price.

If you can do a clean swap, go with the newer 5070ti.

If you're going to be paying more for the 5070ti, then only you can put a price on Multi Frame Gen and the depreciation of hardware physx in old games.

If it were me, I'd just stick with the 4080S because it's already in hand and less of a hassle, but I'm not you so...
 
Not sure how many people buy $1000 2025 GPUs to run games from 2010... but OK.

As for the defect chip thing it's 100% returnable and a fraction of a percent incidence rate, so I wouldn't be inclined to stay up all night worrying.

The number of people running it is irrelevant, backwards compatibility will always be a huge core to PC gaming and removing a feature silently is scummy. Nvidia cards in particular sell on being able to do everything.

Beware the slippery slope you may enable by condoning such actions.
 
The number of people running it is irrelevant, backwards compatibility will always be a huge core to PC gaming and removing a feature silently is scummy. Nvidia cards in particular sell on being able to do everything.

Beware the slippery slope you may enable by condoning such actions.
"condoning such actions"

My dude it's 32 bit software for which a direct replacement has existed for more than 15 years, and this is 2025. Should hardware manufacturers keep supporting all standards for infinity? Seems like a waste of die space.

Besides, it's not like the game is unplayable without PhysX, or that it will magically make a 15 year old game look contemporary.

Seems like a very similar issue to how modern fast computers have problems running very old games, as framerate tied to physics etc and the sheer speed of modern hardware causes stuff to break. If turning on Physx on a game from the 2000s is critical, I'm sure there's millions of old GPUs/systems on Ebay or in your garage gathering dust.

Could NVIDIA write a translation layer similar to what Intel did for old DX games with their discrete GPU release? Maybe. Is it worth it? Unlikely.

My bet is this whole "issue" was the first time most people even remembered PhysX existed.

I'm guessing NVIDIA made this move to 64 bit only CUDA/PhysX for the same reason Apple went 64 bit only, Intel tried to, and Android is in the process of doing, it simplifies things and allows more focus on currently important things.

Correction, the newest ARM processors for Android already only support 64 bit code.

Started with the Pixel 7. I didn't hear much outcry then.


But hey, NVIDIA bad right?
 
Keep it, wait for next gen rather.
You wouldn't be gaining anything, unless the added "fake" frames from mfg is important to you.
 
"condoning such actions"

My dude it's 32 bit software for which a direct replacement has existed for more than 15 years, and this is 2025. Should hardware manufacturers keep supporting all standards for infinity? Seems like a waste of die space.

Nvidia doesn't need to support all standards forever, they could have easily wrote a translation layer. There's a reason I can still run the original red alert and dungeon keeper on my 2025 PC.

Pure laziness on their part.
 
Maybe one will be released, the launch hasn't exactly been smooth sailing so far.
 
It pretty much is, same perf, more features, better power efficiency. If he can get it cheaper too and return the 4080 what exactly is your problem?
Power efficiency is hardly a point id stand on.. TPU's own charts show that the power efficiency difference is pretty small all things considered. Ideally, 5070Ti runs 20w better than the 4080/S, but runs only maybe about 10w better at 4k. RT paints a similar story. The only real boost to efficiency in my opinion is idle, video playback, etc, which is within expectation. I don't wanna cherry pick an example but most of the 5070Ti charts and benchmarks show this, and TPU's dont seem any different.

I'd only really get a 5070Ti if you already were planning on buying a 4080/S, or if you can find it as MSRP. Wouldn't return a 4080 over the 5070Ti unless you can gurantee you get a 5070Ti and / or value the features the 5070Ti has over the 4080.


Yeah, 100% all about price.

If you can do a clean swap, go with the newer 5070ti.

If you're going to be paying more for the 5070ti, then only you can put a price on Multi Frame Gen and the depreciation of hardware physx in old games.
TL;DR'd what I think pretty much.
 
Power efficiency is hardly a point id stand on.. TPU's own charts show that the power efficiency difference is pretty small all things considered. Ideally, 5070Ti runs 20w better than the 4080/S, but runs only maybe about 10w better at 4k. RT paints a similar story. The only real boost to efficiency in my opinion is idle, video playback, etc, which is within expectation. I don't wanna cherry pick an example but most of the 5070Ti charts and benchmarks show this, and TPU's dont seem any different.

I'd only really get a 5070Ti if you already were planning on buying a 4080/S, or if you can find it as MSRP. Wouldn't return a 4080 over the 5070Ti unless you can gurantee you get a 5070Ti and / or value the features the 5070Ti has over the 4080.
Whether it's 5% or 50% it's still more efficient. Considering the card is the same or better in other respects there is little sense to go with the 4080 over the 5070 Ti, assuming both are same price. Considering the 4070 Ti has a $250 lower RRP, it's pretty likely to be cheaper.

The only downside is hassle of returning if that is enough to care about.
 
Whether it's 5% or 50% it's still better. Considering the card is the same or better in other respects there is little sense to go with the 4080 over the 5070 Ti, assuming both are same price. Considering the 4070 Ti has a $250 lower RRP, it's pretty obvious.

The only downside is hassle of returning.
If the difference is so little you would hardly notice or tell then I don't think it really matters. Power Efficiency simply doesn't really matter for this comparison in my opinion. Just because the 7900XTX is a smidge bit faster than the 4080S (usually only by 1% to 4%), suddenly didnt mean people were recommending the 7900XTX over the 4080S in raster. I think the same logic applies here.

Not to mention, OP mentioned overclocking a potential 5070Ti to beat a 4080 (which it already matches as is) which opens up another can of worms for power efficiency, and ATP if your gonna overclock power efficiency probably isnt your concern anymore. And even in this regard, an overclocked 5070Ti from what im reading is still well within 5% difference range. Cooler matters too in that regard but it seems pretty consistent across all the charts I saw for different models (avoiding FE for comparison due to no FE card for 5070Ti)

TL;DR, power efficiency, and by extension, other stuff such as raster, really dont matter in this arguement. I dont see a point in bringing them up. Your choice is gonna entirely hinge on the features. (and price, if you can get a good price of course.)

5070Ti if its at a price similar to a 4080S (which the cheapest ive seen are), if you already own a 4080S, you should pass unless you value the features exclusive to the 5070Ti and can actually get it. If you don't, and were considering getting a 4080S, then, in that specific instance, go ahead. Even more so if you can buy a 5070Ti at its actual MSRP. If your not an american thats a factor too, due to stuff like VAT, but thats getting into a whole other can of worms.
 
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