Nvidia's GPU market share hits 90% in Q4 2024 (gets closer to full monopoly)

[Dr. Dro]

You are writing and posting some pictures with no fps counter. I provide video evidence, as this is realtime graphics we talk about, not powerpoint/pictures.

here is some actual FACTS.

The fact that you do not understand that VRAM usage goes up and that old video about 8gb is now relevant for 12gb cards aswell is sure related to your problem noticing lack of textures and smoothness.

I'm sorry, but I gotta call you out on this. Pathtracing and high resolution textures on such a lightweight system... just isn't viable, even if it had 3 times as much VRAM. An R5 9600X+4070S system is pretty much the definition of midrange. It's just good enough to give you a taste of next-gen, while being utterly incapable of keeping up with workloads such as that game.

 

[Zazigalka]

old video about 8gb is now relevant for 12gb cards aswell

It isn't

 

[Visible Noise]

Did you actually watch the video you posted? 39 seconds in he says it’s a reference card. And then says it again 10 seconds later.

I think you don't know what a reference card is

You didn’t address that your own source says it’s a reference card. I wonder why?

Anyway, buh-bye.

 

[Scattergrunt]

Showing up on discord without broadcast to suppress background noise (eg from your gf watching TV)...whatever man, you wanna makes this into an amd vs nv, sign me off.

Not to be 'that guy' but I think your glossing over something here if were talking about discord;

 

[vacsati]

Seems like RDNA was a big flop unfortunatley. Lets hoipe Intel's upper range cards will be great competitors.
Last three gen from the reds were outdated at launch and cannot really compete.

 

[Zazigalka]

Seems like RDNA was a big flop unfortunatley. Lets hoipe Intel's upper range cards will be great competitors.
Last three gen from the reds were outdated at launch and cannot really compete.

Rdna2 was very good at launch around 2020/21 imo, but it's aging really, really poorly due to underwhelming rt and lack of AI hardware to support FSR4. Vram won't save a card is technologically behind.

 

[JustBenching]

Not to be 'that guy' but I think your glossing over something here if were talking about discord;
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Go try it and tell me how it went.

 

[Apocalypsee]

Reading this thread, funny that when GTX 480 vs HD 5870 people were arguing about tessellation performance and today nobody cares about it. Still remember how messed up the Crysis 2 with its over tessellated road barrier and rendering unseen ocean underneath the land above tanks performance to make nvidia hardware 'looks' better. Just like RT nowadays it's not mandatory to have it, you can disable it and enjoy better performance with little visual difference. What you can't mitigate is VRAM limitation, I suffer black texture on my 8GB RTX 2060 Super because the lack of VRAM when playing TLoU

 

[eidairaman1]

Seems like RDNA was a big flop unfortunatley. Lets hoipe Intel's upper range cards will be great competitors.
Last three gen from the reds were outdated at launch and cannot really compete.

You might want to be more concerned about this

 

[AusWolf]

Maybe so for now.. do you watch any of those GPU repair videos on the toob? cant remember how it goes, Nvidia makes good cores lousy boards, Amd makes lousy cores and good boards? Something like that..

Nah, I don't watch them. I think both Nvidia and AMD have good and bad generations, so I wouldn't resort to such generalisation.

Rdna2 was very good at launch around 2020/21 imo, but it's aging really, really poorly due to underwhelming rt and lack of AI hardware to support FSR4. Vram won't save a card is technologically behind.

It's aging really well in games that don't require RT to run.

 

[freeagent]

so I wouldn't resort to such generalisation.

I wouldn't generalize either.

 

[Dr. Dro]

It's aging really well in games that don't require RT to run.

Shame that W1zz hasn't included RDNA 2 in the RTX 50 tests, hope he does that for the 9070's. Guru3D has data on most but it's probably not too updated, some of Hilbert's charts over there still have Kepler cards in them, and I can't see that data being too new, unless he's been retesting hardware that far back... his reviews aren't putting them in great light, in some cases like his Witcher 3 tests, placing stuff like 6800 XT below 3070 Ti, even at 4K where the 8 GB is not-so-great

MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC review (Page 14)

We review and test the MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC 16GB graphics card, built on NVIDIA’s Blackwell architecture, which introduces a range of technical enhancements for both rendering and compute performance.

www.guru3d.com

 

[JustBenching]

Shame that W1zz hasn't included RDNA 2 in the RTX 50 tests, hope he does that for the 9070's. Guru3D has data on most but it's probably not too updated, some of Hilbert's charts over there still have Kepler cards in them, and I can't see that data being too new, unless he's been retesting hardware that far back... his reviews aren't putting them in great light, in some cases like his Witcher 3 tests, placing stuff like 6800 XT below 3070 Ti, even at 4K where the 8 GB is not-so-great

MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC review (Page 14)

We review and test the MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC 16GB graphics card, built on NVIDIA’s Blackwell architecture, which introduces a range of technical enhancements for both rendering and compute performance.

www.guru3d.com

The 6800xt is behind a 2080ti in some games according to guru3d. Aged like fine milk

 

[AusWolf]

The 6800xt is behind a 2080ti in some games according to guru3d. Aged like fine milk

Why do we think in terms of "behind this" or "ahead of that"? Does it still play your games? That's the question we need.

 

[JustBenching]

Why do we think in terms of "behind this" or "ahead of that"? Does it still play your games? That's the question we need.

There is not a single card released in the last 5 years (probably more) that doesn't play your games one way or another. That doesn't mean all of them were or are good cards or that they aged just fine.

 

[AusWolf]

There is not a single card released in the last 5 years (probably more) that doesn't play your games one way or another. That doesn't mean all of them were or are good cards or that they aged just fine.

Yes, it means exactly that to me.

 

[JustBenching]

Yes, it means exactly that to me.

You are really the exception. Someone that buys a 1k $ card expects it to be faster than a 500$ card today - next year and 2 years down the line. If suddenly your 7800xt starts being slower than a 7600xt would you say "oh well, no biggie, it still plays games?". That's insane man...

 

[AusWolf]

You are really the exception. Someone that buys a 1k $ card expects it to be faster than a 500$ card today - next year and 2 years down the line. If suddenly your 7800xt starts being slower than a 7600xt would you say "oh well, no biggie, it still plays games?". That's insane man...

No 7800 XT has become slower than a 7600 XT, be sensible, dude.

On the above example, if you bought a 6800 XT a few years ago, you probably don't care if it gets behind a 2080 Ti by now by a couple of percent as long as it still plays your game fine. You bought that card to play games, and not to be in a never-ending rat race with competing cards of similar age, after all.

 

[JustBenching]

No 7800 XT has become slower than a 7600 XT, be sensible, dude.

On the above example, if you bought a 6800 XT a few years ago, you probably don't care if it gets behind a 2080 Ti by now by a couple of percent as long as it still plays your game fine. You bought that card to play games, and not to be in a never-ending rat race with competing cards of similar age, after all.

They are not of similar age, the 2080ti is a 2018 gpu...

 

[AusWolf]

They are not of similar age, the 2080ti is a 2018 gpu...

Not of similar class, either. But my point stands.

The purpose of a graphics card in a gaming system is to play games, not to be in a competition with GPUs of other brands. Competition only matters while your card is sitting in a box on a store shelf, waiting to be bought.

 

[Zazigalka]

The 6800xt is behind a 2080ti in some games according to guru3d. Aged like fine milk

Can't see any in their latest review.

 

[JustBenching]

Can't see any in their latest review.

MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC review (Page 14)

We review and test the MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC 16GB graphics card, built on NVIDIA’s Blackwell architecture, which introduces a range of technical enhancements for both rendering and compute performance.

www.guru3d.com

 

[Zazigalka]

MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC review (Page 14)

We review and test the MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC 16GB graphics card, built on NVIDIA’s Blackwell architecture, which introduces a range of technical enhancements for both rendering and compute performance.

www.guru3d.com

It's faster on every chart in Witcher 3. And they're not even testing the new remastered version.

Cmpetition only matters while your card is sitting in a box on a store shelf, waiting to be bought.

Hence the close to monopoly title

 

[JustBenching]

It's faster on every chart in Witcher 3. And they're not even testing the new remastered version.


Hence the close to monopoly title

I gave you the link to the review, not a specific game. If you are looking for a game that the 6800xt is below the 2080ti, here

Spoiler

MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC review (Page 15)

We review and test the MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC 16GB graphics card, built on NVIDIA’s Blackwell architecture, which introduces a range of technical enhancements for both rendering and compute performance.

www.guru3d.com

 

[Zazigalka]

I gave you the link to the review, not a specific game. If you are looking for a game that the 6800xt is below the 2080ti, here

Spoiler

MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC review (Page 15)

We review and test the MSI GeForce RTX 5070 Ti VANGUARD SOC 16GB graphics card, built on NVIDIA’s Blackwell architecture, which introduces a range of technical enhancements for both rendering and compute performance.

www.guru3d.com

31 vs 30 FPS in one game at one resolution, you're blowing this out of proportion. I did find the review thank you very much, but what I saw was 6800xt still beating 2080Ti convincingly pretty much everywehere. Go to computerbase, they test GPUs every couple od months, 6800xt still goes head to head with 3080 in rasterization, which was exactly my point. It does well when games don't use latest tech, but overall it ages badly due to architectural obsolescence. It doesn't really require misrepresenting the results to see rdna2 ages poorly, and rdna3 will follow.