Nvidia's GPU market share hits 90% in Q4 2024 (gets closer to full monopoly)

[Scattergrunt]

Go try it and tell me how it went.

Seems like it works perfectly for me in the last nearly 9 years ive used discord.

 

[JustBenching]

Seems like it works perfectly for me in the last nearly 9 years ive used discord.

It's a lot worse than broadcast, doesn't cut off as much noice and clips your voice as well. It's okay if you don't have access to broadcast but if you do, why would you ever use it

 

[Scattergrunt]

It's a lot worse than broadcast, doesn't cut off as much noice and clips your voice as well. It's okay if you don't have access to broadcast but if you do, why would you ever use it

Never had it clip my voice, period. I think an comparison video would be apt right now but I don't know if anyone has actually done that for krisp VS nvidia broadcast. Frankly speaking, the option still exists. You do not require NVIDIA broadcast for discord when discord already has a option for you built in that 99% of people seem to like just fine. I'm just sayin man..

If were talking skype or whatever, yea id probably agree, but you mentioned discord.. so I had to be 'that guy'

 

[JustBenching]

Never had it clip my voice, period. I think an comparison video would be apt right now but I don't know if anyone has actually done that for krisp VS nvidia broadcast. Frankly speaking, the option still exists. You do not require NVIDIA broadcast for discord when discord already has a option for you built in that 99% of people seem to like just fine. I'm just sayin man..

If were talking skype or whatever, yea id probably agree, but you mentioned discord.. so I had to be 'that guy'

How would you know, are you sitting on discord listening to your mic feedback?

There are many comparison videos, just google it on youtube - krisp vs broadcast.

 

[Scattergrunt]

How would you know, are you sitting on discord listening to your mic feedback?

I could of said the exact same thing to you when you said its a lot worse than broadcast..

There are many comparison videos, just google it on youtube - krisp vs broadcast.

Personally speaking, I'm no audiophile, and they really don't sound so vastly different that people should be jumping onto broadcast ASAP. If you have it, use it. But realistically many people probably don't care or notice. (Who knows, might be worth a poll sometime.) I'll leave it at that really.. probably worth its own thread honestly since it is a debatable topic

Also that video you added later is over 4 years old. Both things are now vastly improved as is. Especially in Krisps regard, as over a year after this video came out they improved a ton.

 

[Clueless1977]

They deserve the monopoly given the outstanding price-to-performance ratios the RTX series offers.

 

[JustBenching]

I could of said the exact same thing to you when you said its a lot worse than broadcast..

It was a honest question, and yes I have. Because my PC is in the living room next to a window on a very busy road (and my GF watches TV) - and im using an open broadcast MIC, ive tested everything extensively. Even amd has a decent solution, they all do well with noise in general but not with speech. When there is a TV playing on the background (so, people talking) other solutions do not know what voice they are supposed to suppress and which one is you talking that has to go through. Using Krisp for more than 10 minutes brings up the TV volume back to 100, everyone on discord can literally hear my TV and I have to reset the app. Broadcast simply just works.

Amd's solution is too heavy (on my laptop at least) so can't really use it while playing, maybe with more beefy hardware it can do well, no idea.

 

[Krit]

RTX 50 Series = Mid range GPUs for a Titan level prices. GTX 970 (329$) destroys RTX 5080 (1599$) If we include inflation RTX 5080 shold cost around 489$. And even than GTX 970 is ranked as a higher tier gpu than a RTX 5080

 

[JustBenching]

RTX 50 Series = Mid range GPUs for a Titan level prices. GTX 970 (329$) destroys RTX 5080 (1599$) If we include inflation RTX 5080 shold cost around 489$. And even than GTX 970 is ranked as a higher tier gpu than a RTX 5080

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Exactly, 5080 should cost 489$. But greedy amd is selling cards a lot slower than the 5080 for a lot more than 489. Downright scammers, aren't they?

No wonder their marketshare is down to 10%

 

[kapone32]

Exactly, 5080 should cost 489$. But greedy amd is selling cards a lot slower than the 5080 for a lot more than 489. Downright scammers, aren't they?

Greedy AMD? Speaking of scamming, have you seen any of the missing ROP posts?

 

[Hecate91]

Greedy AMD? Speaking of scamming, have you seen any of the missing ROP posts?

Missing ROPs, fake frames,fake prices, PhysX depreciated, melting power connectors,blown power stages, black screens,crashing, PCI-e 5.0 not working.
Blackwell is an absolute disaster yet I still see people complaining AMD is the greedy one, the same people who never buy a GPU from AMD or Intel.

 

[JustBenching]

Greedy AMD? Speaking of scamming, have you seen any of the missing ROP posts?

If the 5080 should cost 489$ you don't think amd is super greedy when they offer much much slower cards for much much higher price than 489$? Feel free to answer the question.

"The missing ROPs" cards will be RMAed, what is the issue?

 

[Krit]

If the 5080 should cost 489$ you don't think amd is super greedy when they offer much much slower cards for much much higher price than 489$? Feel free to answer the question.

I'm not defending amd but amd usually makes less profit than nvidia from a single gpu. Smaller faster cheaper gpu dies for nvidia. Nvidia is the leading company or at the wheel (much more responsibility)

Of course AMD should drop the prices that's a fact not an wish.

 

[Hecate91]

If the 5080 should cost 489$ you don't think amd is super greedy when they offer much much slower cards for much much higher price than 489$? Feel free to answer the question.

Nvidia is the greedy company pushing the price envelope further up, they are the ones making over 60% margins on a card.

"The missing ROPs" cards will be RMAed, what is the issue?

What are they supposed to be RMA'ed with? The issue is there is very little supply in the first place, there are hardly any cards around yet so many issues with the few cards sold.

 

[JustBenching]

Missing ROPs, fake frames,fake prices, PhysX depreciated, melting power connectors,blown power stages, black screens,crashing, PCI-e 5.0 not working.

Missing ROPs is under RMA, cards will be replaced. No issue.

Fake frames refers to what, FSR FG or AFMF?

PhysX don't work on non nvidia gpus, just to be clear.

Blown power stages happen on every single card on the planet - and power stages are not designed by nvidia.

Black screens - crashing - pcie 5 not working is all a single issue, latest 57x drives with win11 24h2 don't play ball nicely. Out of all those myriad of issues, only the driver being crap is the only actual issue.

the same people who never buy a GPU from AMD or Intel.

Didn't you say you are never buying an nvidia gpu ever again the other day?

What are they supposed to be RMA'ed with? The issue is there is very little supply in the first place, there are hardly any cards around yet so many issues with the few cards sold.

"So many issues". You are referring to the 5 people in reddit as "many"?

I'm not defending amd but amd usually makes less profit than nvidia from a single gpu. Smaller faster cheaper gpu dies for nvidia. Nvidia is the leading company or at the wheel (much more responsibility)

Of course AMD should drop the prices that's a fact not an wish.

My point is if people stopped attacking nvidia for non issues and instead focused on actual issues maybe, just maybe a lot more people would agree with you. "Blown power stages" - as if nvidia makes power stages. "Hundreds of games that are unplayable without Physx"...as if physx ever worked on a non nvidia gpu. "5080 should be 489$, greedy nvidia" while ignoring that amd sells a ton of cards that are way slower and way more expensive than the 5080. But sure, let's go ahead and attack nvidia regardless, lol.

 

[Hecate91]

Missing ROPs is under RMA, cards will be replaced. No issue.

Fake frames refers to what, FSR FG or AFMF?

PhysX don't work on non nvidia gpus, just to be clear.

Blown power stages happen on every single card on the planet - and power stages are not designed by nvidia.

Black screens - crashing - pcie 5 not working is all a single issue, latest 57x drives with win11 24h2 don't play ball nicely. Out of all those myriad of issues, only the driver being crap is the only actual issue.

It is an issue since Nvidia sold those dies knowing they were defective, Nvidia claimed it was only on the 5090 and the 5070Ti but now a 5080 was found with missing ROPs.

Fake frames referring to Nvidia frame gen, they claimed performance increases with frame gen, while real performance increase is barely faster than the 40 series.

Blown power stages shouldn't be happening on premium $2000+ graphics cards, also Nvidia approves of every AIB design.

So Nvidia gets a pass for having bad drivers, and I doubt PCI-e 5.0 instability will be fixed with drivers, it could have something to do with the architecture itself, Blackwell server compute hardware was reported to be having issues before the Blackwell gaming GPU launch.

Didn't you say you are never buying an nvidia gpu ever again the other day?

Nvidia simply priced me out of the market, the price/performance isn't there, and given how they've treated their customers since at least the 30 series, in addition to removing PhysX I don't see a reason to give Nvidia any money. That is just my preference, I want price/performance and more raw horsepower, not fake frames.

"So many issues". You are referring to the 5 people in reddit as "many"?

Even 5 people is still too many for a GPU series which just launched with very low supply, Nvidia is supposed to be the super premium brand which never has any problems with hardware or software.

 

[Daven]

Wow, I just poked my head in here for a minute and regretting it. The argument that Nvidia should be selling its $1000+ 5080 for under $500 and therefore AMD is overpriced is a bit too crazy town for my taste. That's like your friend farts directly into your face but he points to some stranger walking down the street and so you go over and punch the stranger for being disrespectful. I'll show myself back out. Lol!

 

[JustBenching]

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The moment you mention power stages as an nvidia issue there is no point in talking to you. You are too far gone into nvidia hatred territory, This is pointless, sure, it's an nvidia issue there was a faulty power stage, whatever man.

Wow, I just poked my head in here for a minute and regretting it. The argument that Nvidia should be selling its $1000+ 5080 for under $500 and therefore AMD is overpriced is a bit too crazy town for my taste. I'll show myself back out. Lol!

If you removed the brands from the names for a moment you'd realize that if the Amvidia 5080 should be a 489$ card then it necessarily follows that the Amvidia 7900xtx, the Amvidia 7900xt, the Amvidia 7900gre, the Amvidia 7800xt, the Amvidia 7700xt and the Amvidia 7600xt are grossly overpriced and Amvidia is insanely greedy. Yes / no?

 

[Hecate91]

If you want to call seeing the issues how they are as somehow being "hate" then I guess I'm an "Nvidia hater". Excusing Nvidia for such issues is ridiculous.
As for the blown power stage issue, there isn't any excuse for it either, I expect a $3000+ GPU to not blow up and damage the motherboard with it.

 

[Krit]

My point is if people stopped attacking nvidia for non issues and instead focused on actual issues maybe, just maybe a lot more people would agree with you. "Blown power stages" - as if nvidia makes power stages. "Hundreds of games that are unplayable without Physx"...as if physx ever worked on a non nvidia gpu. "5080 should be 489$, greedy nvidia" while ignoring that amd sells a ton of cards that are way slower and way more expensive than the 5080. But sure, let's go ahead and attack nvidia regardless, lol.

If RX 9070 XT will be highly overpriced something like 700$ (street price) than i agree with you but still nvidia makes a lot more money than amd that's way i'm usually in AMD's side (they have better deals overall)

 

[Zazigalka]

To the

It's not like the things you're arguing about are mutually exclusive.... NVIDIA is having an absolutely disastrous launch of products which are underwhelming in the first place....but AMD is doing the gaming community no favors either, their cards are late, we don't even know their performance and we know that they initially wanted to charge ridiculous prices for them, according to retailers that got the cards on shelves waiting to sell them. This while discussion turned into fanboys throwing poo at each other.

 

[Bomby569]

It's not like the things you're arguing about are mutually exclusive.... NVIDIA is having an absolutely disastrous launch of products which are underwhelming in the first place....but AMD is doing the gaming community no favors either, their cards are late, we don't even know their performance and we know that they initially wanted to charge ridiculous prices for them, according to retailers that got the cards on shelves waiting to sell them. This while discussion turned into fanboys throwing poo at each other.

Nvidia disaster is also a symptom of how much irrelevance the competition has right now, it's the same thing that happened to Intel.
You can certainly blame both sides, Nvidia and the competition for the current state of affairs

 

[Zazigalka]

Nvidia disaster is also a symptom of how much irrelevance the competition has right now, it's the same thing that happened to Intel.
You can certainly blame both sides, Nvidia and the competition for the current state of affairs

the best strategy is to dislike both. imo with rtx50 launch problems "stealing the show", no one talks about how great an update for rtx4000 dlss4 was enough.
well, HUB did

 

[Hecate91]

It's not like the things you're arguing about are mutually exclusive.... NVIDIA is having an absolutely disastrous launch of products which are underwhelming in the first place....but AMD is doing the gaming community no favors either, their cards are late, we don't even know their performance and we know that they initially wanted to charge ridiculous prices for them, according to retailers that got the cards on shelves waiting to sell them. This while discussion turned into fanboys throwing poo at each other.

Nvidia keeps getting a pass for everything, I'm tired of people excusing the Nvidia sh*tshow with "but but Nvidia is faster so who cares". AMD might not be doing any favors to impatient gamers who have to have a new GPU, but waiting is a better option than launching too soon and having a failure of a generation like what Nvidia is doing. As for cards sitting on shelves, I don't see that as a bad thing either, building up stock might prevent prices from getting out of hand.

Nvidia disaster is also a symptom of how much irrelevance the competition has right now, it's the same thing that happened to Intel.
You can certainly blame both sides, Nvidia and the competition for the current state of affairs

The Nvidia disaster is a result of consumers not voting with their wallets allowing Nvidia to become a monopoly. Intel damaged the competition so much with cheating on benchmarks and bribing OEM's, it took years and AMD risking the whole company to come back with Ryzen.

 

[Zazigalka]

Nvidia keeps getting a pass for everything.

no, they aren't. maybe among the vocal minority who will always defend their brand, but I think the criticism is quite universal. if you're an amd fan looking for internet squabbles with an nvidia one, you will always find them no matter what.