AMD Radeon RX 9070 Series Launches without AMD-Built Reference Designs

[Hecate91]

I thought that was Nvidia, not AMD.

I have yet to see proof of an AIB being treated unfairly by AMD, but plenty of proof with Nvidia. Examples being EVGA, MSI dropping AMD GPU's, and tech YouTubers saying that AIBs had only a few weeks to design and test their 50 series cards which may be why some are having issues.

 

[AusWolf]

I have yet to see proof of an AIB being treated unfairly by AMD, but plenty of proof with Nvidia. Examples being EVGA, MSI dropping AMD GPU's, and tech YouTubers saying that AIBs had only a few weeks to design and test their 50 series cards which may be why some are having issues.

Shame EVGA didn't start making AMD cards after they dropped out of the Nvidia business. Maybe it would have kept them alive, or at least die slower.

I'm not gonna shed a tear for MSi, though. Their Nvidia cards are mostly fine, but their AMD ones were rubbish.

 

[JustBenching]

I haven't read that about AMD, but I find it believable. Only that their MBA cards have only been available on their own website in a select few regions, and only sporadically (they have mostly been out of stock). I think Nvidia FE is only available in the US as well, but it's cheaper than AIB cards, and more available than AMD MBA.

You can find FEs in NBB (notebooks billiger) but very very rarely. Grabbed my 3060ti from there.

I have yet to see proof of an AIB being treated unfairly by AMD, but plenty of proof with Nvidia. Examples being EVGA, MSI dropping AMD GPU's, and tech YouTubers saying that AIBs had only a few weeks to design and test their 50 series cards which may be why some are having issues.

MSI dropping amd gpus isn't a sign that amd is unfair, but evga dropping nvidia is. You don't sound biased, at all.

 

[AusWolf]

You can find FEs in NBB (notebooks billiger) but very very rarely. Grabbed my 3060ti from there.

That's cool.

I got my MBA 6750 XT from Scan UK, although it was a one-off. I never saw them sell any 7000-series MBA cards, those were only available on the AMD website.

MSI dropping amd gpus isn't a sign that amd is unfair, but evga dropping nvidia is. You don't sound biased, at all.

EVGA said they had to quit because of Nvidia's tight margins and unfair practices. MSi hasn't said anything, yet, but it would be interesting to know.

 

[Hecate91]

Shame EVGA didn't start making AMD cards after they dropped out of the Nvidia business. Maybe it would have kept them alive, or at least die slower.

I'm not gonna shed a tear for MSi, though. Their Nvidia cards are mostly fine, but their AMD ones were rubbish.

Agreed, I would've liked to see an AMD or Intel card from EVGA, their cards were good quality and not overly flashy with the cooler design or rgb. Though apparently EVGA cards were difficult to find outside of North America.

MSI dropping AMD cards doesn't disappoint me, though it is less choice in the market. But their coolers were terrible on the AMD cards either often a crappy design or just reusing an Nvidia heatsink. I haven't heard of why MSI stopped making AMD cards but I can only assume Nvidia gave them a deal to be an exclusive AIB.

 

[AusWolf]

Agreed, I would've liked to see an AMD or Intel card from EVGA, their cards were good quality and not overly flashy with the cooler design or rgb. Though apparently EVGA cards were difficult to find outside of North America.

In their early days, yes, but starting from the 700/900 series, they became quite common in Europe, too.

MSI dropping AMD cards doesn't disappoint me

Agreed.

 

[Hecate91]

MSI dropping amd gpus isn't a sign that amd is unfair, but evga dropping nvidia is. You don't sound biased, at all.

MSI hasn't said why, but given the treatment from Nvidia towards some partner brands, assumptions can be made. EVGA was loosing money with the 30 series, and they probably knew what was happening with the 40 series and the melting power connectors.
I have yet to see any proof of AMD prioritizing their own cards over the AIB versions, as Videocardz claims, it would be more belivable that AMD doesn't have enough profit margins to make a significant amount of MBA cards.
However Nvidia being a $3T company could easily produce more FE cards, or buy an AIB to produce FE cards, but obviously Nvidia wants FE cards to be rare so prices stay higher.

 

[BlaezaLite]

Damn I got something right. "Faints"

 

[Onasi]

However Nvidia being a $3T company could easily produce more FE cards, or buy an AIB to produce FE cards, but obviously Nvidia wants FE cards to be rare so prices stay higher.

…that’s not how it works. The market evaluation of company value is absolutely not indicative of how much spare resources they have. Or of much of anything, really, it’s stocks and stocks are essentially gambling. NVidia cannot “produce” much more of any card since they don’t produce any at all. I don’t remember off the top of my head who makes the current FEs (Foxconn and BYD?), but they have a contract and they produce what is agreed upon. These OEMs can’t just suddenly produce MORE on the spot since their production facilities are also making other things for other companies.
As for buying/setting up their own manufacturing - 3dFX already tried that. It was not a good idea and les to their death.