Possible $899 for PULSE Triple RX 9070 XT
If not more. $899 will probably is the Sapphire "MSRP" for their Pulse series. The VAT/tariffs/gouging is to be inevitably added on top.
Show me the 8D report and all the specs. Than we can talk. Especially step 7.
years ago quality claims had to be finished for the automotive branch in less than 7 calendar days. We had nice customers who filed quality claims on friday 11 am. So no early friday end of work shift for myself in the quality department
How many days do we have these issues wiht that nvidia gpu connector? Or should I already write, how many years do we have problems with that nvidia connector?
Also show me the FMEA for that connector, which dates back to the first issue reported.
Note: I talk about this:
https://asq.org/quality-resources/fmea
I do not want to use an adapter or buy a cable just for a graphic card. Other graphic cards do not need a cable adapter or a newer cable or a newer power supply unit which ships with that connector.
go on - give me a non - absurd statement.
Whataboutism: It's the same why I did not bought any gigabyte mainboard. Because of those nice gigabyte power supplies which exploded like a fire cracker. Or any SAMSUNG NVME - because of those Firmware issues over all those years.
edit: other thread implies that this issue is well known since nvidia 3090 ....
This, sadly depends on the AIB and direct partner's QA, laziness and "cutting corners". Especially, since how the AIBs like Asus are keen to undermine the Radeon branded crads quality and public image. So, considering them having the issues with the
top end solutions of "
top end"nVidia GPU
(GB202-300-A still might be a cut down silicon, since... GB202, and potentially a Ti, or "Super" refresh)
Also the AIBs probably are just very lazy/greedy, and are just doing the old trick, by trying to utilize the PCB design, already made for the nVidia counterparts.
Though, having Sapphire joined AsRock with 12V 2x6 "endeavour". Perhaps, more of the manufacturers are about to join soon, sadly. Hopefully there would be a choice of power connector variant.
And considering, for how long the 9070 series cards been laying in the warehouses, the amount of potential issue, might be even bigger, than in case of nVidia's miserable supply.
You really think the engineers of these cards would allow it to do that? There's no world to you where the board makers for these cards with understanding to what is happening on Nvidia cards to just not account for any of that?
That isnt even happening on 5090s without the line balancing unless you force it to do that by cutting wires like Jayztwocentz did in his video.
Engineers might not. But everyone knows the final decisions and marketing are not made by engineers.
Now add here the fact of RDNA4 being a stopgap, and the AIBs habit to "save" as much as possible, even on crucial components/design, and the things start looking very grim...
The connector, is raw. By connector, it also means the corresponding specifications, and standards. It
should have been ironed out,
before entring the
consumer market. The emphasis is on the consumer, because it has the infinite variety of conditions and configs. Thus making the troubleshooting and the result fluctuation way higher, than the enterprise market, with strict submission to standards, and thus barely any difference between the HW.
Something like the balancing of the power delivery across the cables, should have been the established and obligatory spec of the connector from the get go. There shouldn't have been any further 12VHPWR iterations, to begin with. Let alone the iteration/the version, which is still as faulty as the original. So there is ATX 3.1 and PCIE 5.1, exist only due to nVidia was pushing the bugged proprietary version of the existing standard/connector, and was unable/unwilling to sort their cr*p out.
5090 is basically the top of the crop. And even it is being treated like the bottom of the barrel garbage. Not only by the comple absense of any shunts on the nVidia's own so called "premium" and "superrior" FE solutions. But it also has the silicon quality "wobble" regarding the specs, which is unacceptable for the same SKU, even if it is the bottom end chip. And Asus, MSI and others has the hubris, to ask/demand the hefty "tax" for "better" power stages/shunts (for having them at all, vs FE), something what has to be a obvious, and obligatory...
Well supposedly the RX 9000's have been done for months and been sitting in retailer's warehouses since Dec or Jan. It's absolutely possible they did the same garbage on 12V input handling as the 50-series because it was all complete before the 50-series even launched.
Will have to wait and see.
This all are speculations... However the recent events, have shown, that there's little hope and trust on even the top videocard variants. But yeah, it will all be crystal clear, soon.
It's not just about shunts. The Astral still has the same input problem despite the addition of shunts. The shunts will merely serve as a way to warn of a problem and is all they do. It will be down to how the different power phases are split up and if different 12V inputs feed different phases or if it's all one big blob of 12V.
Something, that is non issue on older "non smart" PCIE/EPS 8 pin. Amazing, how they have managed to royally screw up with "new" "better" standard.
Yeah, but Sapphire needs that exposure right now.. they are terrible.
Indeed. They've been cheaper and more reliable at same time, before RDNA3. Then, they've scr*wed up with the coolers, namely the blatant spacers/mounting pressure issue. And also, having arrogance to ask more, over much better, reliable and also cheaper alernatives from TUL and XFX. Their RMA seems to be horrible outside Taiwan/Asia.
Sadly. Sapphire was more or less one of the most reliable supplier, for almost two decades. And how fast they've managed to flop their entire accomplishements/heritage.
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If I'm buying a 9070xt, I'm buying a 12-pin one. Sapphire will get it right for sure.
