Will you buy a RTX 5090?

[Dr. Dro]

So let me get this straight:
- Availability is virtually non existent (ignoring BS like eBay, etc.)
- If you miraculously find one in a store, street price vastly exceeds MRSP
- Potential melting issue due to bad engineering
- Driver instability
- ROPs may be missing
- PhyX support is gone without warning
- Less efficient than 4090
- Basically same node as two years old 4090

So worst NVIDIA launch ever, right?

You forgot this part. The "potentials" don't really interest anyone who's got the chops to buy one of these. The lead times and wait list are the only negative that has no workaround or remedy yet.

 

[Krit]

So let me get this straight:
- Availability is virtually non existent (ignoring BS like eBay, etc.)
- If you miraculously find one in a store, street price vastly exceeds MRSP
- Potential melting issue due to bad engineering
- Driver instability
- ROPs may be missing
- PhyX support is gone without warning
- Less efficient than 4090
- Basically same node as two years old 4090

So worst NVIDIA launch ever, right?

Nvidia completely left the gaming market all they care about is AI and big money. Let's hope that this will backfire hard on them and AI will fail at some point.

 

[10tothemin9volts]

AMD 200G APU
RX 5500 XT
RX 6600 XT
RTX 4070 (NV GPU because of DLSS, only HDMI 2.0 support on Linux -- no full HDMI 2.1 48 GB/s, aka HDMI 2.1a, support on Linux, and much better power scaling than RDNA3)

No, I'm not getting the 4090 Ti..I mean 5090 (or any GeForce RTX 50 series GPU) because unfortunately it scales linearly vs 4090: 28% faster, 28% higher power consumption and 25% more expensive:

* No price to performance improvement
* No power efficiency improvement
* Which leads to a very high 575 Watt TDP (I don't like the 4090's 450W TDP already)
* NV allows the TDP to be reduced only by -30%(?) I guess undervolting is another option, but it can lead to frametime variances/jitter/stutter, depending how one overdoes it

If one adds 25% of the 5090's price increase to the 24 GB VRAM of the 4090, it would be 30 GB VRAM, but the 5090 has 32 GB VRAM, so I guess there's this small improvement.

If there was also a 48 GB VRAM version (using 3 GB per GDDR7 chip, instead of 2 GB -- 32GB * 1.5) it would be a much more interesting high VRAM consumer GPU for AI LLM self-hosting.

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The only chance me upgrading from my RTX 40 series 4070 to a RTX 50 is if NV releases a higher VRAM affordable mid range (192-bit to 256-bit) consumer GPU using either 3GB per VRAM chips instead of 2GB (=1.5x increase in VRAM) or using a clamshell VRAM design (GDDR7 chips on both sides of the PCB) (=2x increase in VRAM) for AI LLM self-hosting (also 12GB VRAM are not enough).

 

[Bomby569]

gpu's for the US just got 10% more expensive today. Personally i'm loving this, should go to 10K

 

[TheDigitalJedi]

The Asus Astral OC went from $2,499.99 to $3,359.99 within a 6 week period. I was at Microcenter yesterday and made the choice to not buy it. It is absolutely nuts the price was $2,749.99 on the 10th and increased to $3,359.99 on the 11th.

Asus can walk east till their hats float! I'll buy another brand.

 

[mtosev]

Looking at prices of the 5090s on ebay and all of them are 3000+€. I want to buy one by the end of this summer.

 

[TheDigitalJedi]

The Asus Astral OC went from $2,499.99 to $3,359.99 within a 6 week period. I was at Microcenter yesterday and made the choice to not buy it. It is absolutely nuts the price was $2,749.99 on the 10th and increased to $3,359.99 on the 11th.

Asus can walk east till their hats float! I'll buy another brand.

***Correction***

I quoted myself because I typed a misrepresentation.

Initial price of the Asus Astral OC was $2,799.99 and the current price is $3,359.99. A $560.00 increase. My bad. The situation still disappoints.

 

[tpa-pr]

Looking at prices of the 5090s on ebay and all of them are 3000+€. I want to buy one by the end of this summer.

Would you consider compromising for a 4090 or even a 7900 XTX?

 

[cinemaware]

You forgot this part. The "potentials" don't really interest anyone who's got the chops to buy one of these. The lead times and wait list are the only negative that has no workaround or remedy yet.

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Exactly. Most of that lamentation laundry list is a standard these days. When you want to bash something there will always be some utuber with a melted connector or a driver issue (even though some of these things were never really confirmed, or be proven to be directly Nvidia's fault).

So, yes, if I could find one at MSRP, maybe, possibly. Now, 2000 is a bit crazy for me (although for some enthusiasts it really is a drop in the bucket, especially compared to other hobbies) but when we consider that 4090 is still selling above its launch price, it’s a pretty good investment. Let's say buy now, have fun being a top dog in 4K, sell in 3 years for near what you paid for it, how is that a bad deal? That's assuming that the situation won't change, but so far there's little indication of that.

 

[mtosev]

Would you consider compromising for a 4090 or even a 7900 XTX?

I dunno. I somehow prefer on getting the 5090.

 

[InfaRedd]

It's not just the price of the card that's a problem. My case is too small for any RTX 5090 on the market, and my PSU would need upgraded. More money than I'd like to spend.

 

[Bobmitmen]

Nvidia completely left the gaming market all they care about is AI and big money. Let's hope that this will backfire hard on them and AI will fail at some point.

I have lost faith in the idea that Nvidia even cares about the gaming customer. I am going to take the money that I was going to spend on a 5080 and upgrade my processor and ram. Take my 7800X3D and 32 GB of memory and start building a new rig for my son. Aiming at the 9950X3D and 64 GB of memory.

 

[T4C Fantasy]

At this point i may just get a 4090, but that extra memory in the 5090 is actually worth it in heavily texture modded games, even my skyrim mods can reach 40gb, ff7 rebirth can go insane too.

I currently have a 3080 10gb so both are major upgrades but from my gpus perspective the 5090 is just a massive upgrade.

 

[TheDigitalJedi]

Got one!

About $800.00 cheaper than the Astral!

 

[mtosev]

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RTX 5090 2809€
First sub 3k€ card.

 

[A Computer Guy]

I'm pretty satisfied with my 4060 (low profile) card so I might get a 5060 (low profile) when they become available and if they are not stupid expensive and can fit in my ML-09B.

 

[Bobmitmen]

I have lost faith in the idea that Nvidia even cares about the gaming customer. I am going to take the money that I was going to spend on a 5080 and upgrade my processor and ram. Take my 7800X3D and 32 GB of memory and start building a new rig for my son. Aiming at the 9950X3D and 64 GB of memory.

Guess I have to swallow my words! I had the PNY Epic-X RGB on my watch list with Microcenter and I got an alert that they had 8 in stock today. I live 10 minutes away, and by the time I got there...there were only two left...did get it. What I like about PNY is their build quality is really good, their OC is higher than most and they are still selling at MSRP. I got the upper model, so it was about 180 over the $999, but even the non RGB clocks higher than most and is still $999 when available.

 

[TheDigitalJedi]

I was able to get the 5090 Zotac Amp Extreme Infinity. I have not opened the box because I've read that some cards have 176 ROPS and others have 192 ROPS with more performance. Excluding the cards with 168 that have to be RMA'd, are the Zotac cards only going to have 176 ROPS? I read specs of the Nvidia, Asus and Gigabyte 5090 cards. They all have 192 ROPS from what I've read.

Is this accurate?

 

[T4C Fantasy]

I was able to get the 5090 Zotac Amp Extreme Infinity. I have not opened the box because I've read that some cards have 176 ROPS and others have 192 ROPS with more performance. Excluding the cards with 168 that have to be RMA'd, are the Zotac cards only going to have 176 ROPS? I read specs of the Nvidia, Asus and Gigabyte 5090 cards. They all have 192 ROPS from what I've read.

Is this accurate?

Every manufacturer is affected. Its entirely random too.

176 is the default max i believe

 

[mtosev]

What wattage psu is enough for the 5090? Would an Enermax 1200watt ATX 3.1 be enough? Just a question. Not buying a new gpu until the summer but I'm interested.

 

[Sol_Badguy]

@mtosev

Do you mean this one?

PlatiGemini 1200 Watt 80 PLUS Platinum Fully Modular ATX 3.1 & ATX 12VO Power Supply - Products - ENERMAX Technology Corporation

The PlatiGemini is an 80 PLUS® PLATINUM efficiency certified power supply supporting both Intel ATX 3.1 and ATX 12VO standards simultaneously in a single model.

www.enermax.com

It's definitely enough.

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@TheDigitalJedi

The 5090 has 176 ROPs.

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 Specs

NVIDIA GB202, 2407 MHz, 21760 Cores, 680 TMUs, 176 ROPs, 32768 MB GDDR7, 1750 MHz, 512 bit

www.techpowerup.com

The 7900 XTX has 192 ROPs.

AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Specs

AMD Navi 31, 2498 MHz, 6144 Cores, 384 TMUs, 192 ROPs, 24576 MB GDDR6, 2500 MHz, 384 bit

www.techpowerup.com

 

[TheDigitalJedi]

This card is underperforming with benchmarks and I can't figure it out. Scores are lousy.

 

[Dr. Dro]

This card is underperforming with benchmarks and I can't figure it out. Scores are lousy.

Have you checked GPU-Z to see if it has 168 or 176 ROPs? If 168, RMA, your card is one of the earlier manufacture models that has a hardware defect

 

[Maxiaid]

I reckon a 4090 should suffice, I don't think I can spare any more kidneys.

So let me get this straight:
- Availability is virtually non existent (ignoring BS like eBay, etc.)
- If you miraculously find one in a store, street price vastly exceeds MRSP
- Potential melting issue due to bad engineering
- Driver instability
- ROPs may be missing
- PhyX support is gone without warning
- Less efficient than 4090
- Basically same node as two years old 4090

So worst NVIDIA launch ever, right?

 

[mtosev]

Yesterday I was looking at the prices of 5090s and Amazon.de had one for 2930€ and today it's gone.