Get 9070 or 9070 XT

[Martin007]

I am hesitated which is a better card ? I saw in reviews of 9070 XT over none XT has 15+ ~ 30+ FPS in games but worried about vram temperature 9070 in Asus tuf sample is 78°C but Sapphire RX 9070 XT Nitro OC is at 90C

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Depends on price, if they are less than 100 usd apart 9070xt 100 times out of 100.

 

[adilazimdegilx]

Sapphire nitro looks to be one of the worst (based on HUBs reviews). Check/wait for other partner cards and of course, wait for actual pricing.

 

[Scattergrunt]

Another factor to consider is efficiency and price to performance. Which matters to you more?
Undervolting seems really promising on the 9070XT, and at the other extreme, both OC like monsters (which is actually nice to see cards OC above 10% for once)

I'd wait for street price to come out, and see what the stock is like though first.

 

[Kovoet]

The more I hear about these cards the happier I get

 

[eidairaman1]

Flip a coin

 

[wolf]

Cheapest (hopefully MSRP) XT for sure would be what I'd do.

 

[Dr. Dro]

XT. The regular one needs a price cut.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I am hesitated which is a better card ? I saw in reviews of 9070 XT over none XT has 15+ ~ 30+ FPS in games but worried about vram temperature 9070 in Asus tuf sample is 78°C but Sapphire RX 9070 XT Nitro OC is at 90C

There are a few things to consider. Power usage and price. The 9070 is very competitive with the new NV gen and falls inbetween the 5070 & 5070ti for a very attractive price. If the power usage of the 9070XT doesn't concern you and the price something you can afford. Go for it. It'll be the one that lasts in the long run.

The only question will be what version of the GPU do you like? There will be a number of different styles of cards to choose from.

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

Both cards are competent IMHO, choose whatever your wallet allows you too, though that 50$ difference (in reality you won't find it) is pretty much a no brainer..

 

[Hyderz]

+1 on the xt

 

[alwayssts]

IMHO the current price of 9070 makes it a stupid product period; just buy a cheaper raster card if you want that level of perf.
If people think it's a stupid product when it's like...I don't know...under $400, I guess people have the right to either opinion.

9070 is a RT card without enough performance to really do it (at any decent resolution) in newer titles going forward imho, hence, it's kinda bunk...not unlike 5070, but with some extra ram.
It essentially replaces the 7800xt/6800xt (which are/were very good pure raster cards and been a lower price for a very long time).

9070 xt can actually use those features in a meaningful way, and is kind of a breakthrough in it's price class.
Again, it won't be as high-end as it appears forever, but will have a MUCH longer life than anything below it.

If you're going to make the jump, buy a 9070xt. If you're not, buy a cheaper card IMHO capable of similar raster performance.

 

[Frick]

We don't actually know how much they'll sell for, so it's impossible to say.

 

[lexluthermiester]

IMHO the current price of 9070 makes it a stupid product period

That's your opinion. Doesn't meet with much merit.

 

[eidairaman1]

That's your opinion. Doesn't meet with much merit.

Yeah it has its place, I might pick 1 up in 6 months.

 

[alwayssts]

That's your opinion. Doesn't meet with much merit.

It is $50 less than a much superior product, and cannot for all practical purposes meet decent performance requirements for this new era.

No merit? Ha. Go look at it's performance and where it falls short. Now imagine that going down a whole tier, where it would also fall short.

 

[lexluthermiester]

It is $50 less than a much superior product, and cannot for all practical purposes meet decent performance requirements for this new era.

If someone can't afford the extra $50 or any number of other factors, then no the XT is NOT the better option and the 9070 would be the best option for those buyers.

No merit? Ha. Go look at it's performance and where it falls short. Now imagine that going down a whole tier, where it would also fall short.

You are looking at the situation with tunnel vision. Seeing a bigger picture is key.

The 9070XT is not automatically the best option. That is YOUR narrow opinion. The OP needs to choose for themselves what fits best for them.

 

[alwayssts]

If someone can't afford the extra $50 or any number of other factors, then no the XT is NOT the better option and the 9070 would be the best option for those buyers.

You are looking at the situation with tunnel vision. Seeing a bigger picture is key.

The 9070XT is not automatically the best option. That is YOUR narrow opinion. The OP needs to choose for themselves what fits best for them.

Read what I actually wrote, rather than be self-righteous. That is not at all what I said.

I know that people don't always have that extra money. I in-fact said I believe there are better values for a similar performance class...The point of that is to save money.

It is in-fact my opinion. That is correct. I did in-fact say that more than once in that post.

 

[chispy]

I am hesitated which is a better card ? I saw in reviews of 9070 XT over none XT has 15+ ~ 30+ FPS in games but worried about vram temperature 9070 in Asus tuf sample is 78°C but Sapphire RX 9070 XT Nitro OC is at 90C

Go for the XT .

 

[lexluthermiester]

Read what I actually wrote, rather than be self-righteous. That is not at all what I said.

Oh?

IMHO the current price of 9070 makes it a stupid product period

This is what you said.. I glossed over the rest as your statement. Couldn't care less about such a narrow opinion.

If you're going to make silly statements and give bad advice, you can't be surprised when someone calls you out on your nonsense.

 

[alwayssts]

Do you not understand what IMHO means? It means: in my humble opinion. You're taking things wayyyy too seriously. Chill out.

How is it a silly statement to suggest either buying one tier or the other? I personally (<- this means opinion) don't believe in buying products split between tiers, as they have a reduced lifespan for any purpose.

This has always been true. I have now hopefully explained it to your satisfaction. This is also why AMD has not made many, and why they are priced as they are. That is not opinion, this is what happened.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Do you not under stand what IMHO means? It means: in my humble opinion.

No kidding, eh? Well gee wiz, I'll have to remember that...

 

[Onasi]

I will wait and see what the price difference will actually be in the real world (and different locations). Something tells me that the “50 dollar more” for the XT will not actually keep anywhere other than the MSRP listed in the reviews. Which should make the 9070 an actually interesting product - a sub-250W with a 16G frame buffer and plenty enough grunt for mostly anything sane. I doubt that most well-specced AIB models of the 9070XT will actually exist below 700, which makes the 9070 more interesting too. Can also get away with lesser models - 100W difference is nothing to sneeze at in terms of cooling. 250 you can easily cool with a dual slot dual fan, maybe 2.5 slot. 350 - not so much.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I will wait and see what the price difference will actually be in the real world (and different locations). Something tells me that the “50 dollar more” for the XT will not actually keep anywhere other than the MSRP listed in the reviews.

Yeah, there is this and it's very much a "wait-and-see" situation.

 

[Darkholm]

9070XT all the way. 9070 is an upsell leik it was 7900XT when it was launched. But again, it depends on street price. If they are in 100 EUR/USD, XT all the way.