Oh boy here we go again...potential X3D woes

ir_cow · Tuesday at 2:46 AM

WhenMusicAttacks said:
well, unstable even at jdec 4800 is something..

What code are you getting?

WhenMusicAttacks · Tuesday at 12:38 PM

No postcode, just very long or no boot stuck at dram, and then unstable on linpack

Crazybc · Tuesday at 4:11 PM

Knock on wood . I have had zero issues running a ASRock X870E Taichi Lite with a 9800X3D . Now I did update the bios before I even installed the CPU and have updated the board to the latest Non beta bios and I have had No issues with it at all. I installed the CPU made sure it was in the correct position and locked it in with the lever applied thermal paste and the water block and here I am. I hopefully wont have any issues but after 2 months of constant use I doubt I will

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vigor · Tuesday at 10:32 PM

I've built a new system with Asrock Taichi and 9800x3d two weeks ago, so far so good. Hopefully it stays that way.
I didn't update bios though.

chrcoluk · Tuesday at 10:56 PM

A very long video from GN to explain that some poorly binned chips (silicon lottery losers) couldnt boot because voltage was too low for the boot process, older bios versions and the new beta bump the boot voltage to fix it.

biffzinker · Tuesday at 11:00 PM

Bill_Bright said:
Sorry but no watching that video. No doubt it is another example of taking over 23 minutes to say something that could have been said in less than 5.

Anyone who watched it care to summarize for the rest of us?

Dead chips or an under voltage issue for the one’s that didn’t POST. There was also a Gigabyte, and MSI board involved with it. I didn’t watch the whole video once I got the information I wanted.

AusWolf · 2025-03-05T00:34:46+0000

R-T-B said:
This is all techtubers in a nutshell, only with at least 5-10 mins of commercial endorsements on some of the worse ones running around.

Anyways, I'm with you. I just don't have time for that anymore.

This trend has to die. No one with a full-time job has time to watch 30-minute long tech news videos.

biffzinker said:
Dead chips or an under voltage issue for the one’s that didn’t POST. There was also a Gigabyte, and MSI board involved with it. I didn’t watch the whole video once I got the information I wanted.

Under voltage on what? The SoC rail?

I remember the fiasco with the over voltage on the 7800X3D. Did Asrock go too far in their correction?

biffzinker · 2025-03-05T01:19:33+0000

AusWolf said:
Under voltage on what? The SoC rail?

It wasn’t elaborated in the video on which part of the chip was under voltage.

Eskimonster · 2025-03-05T03:22:11+0000

i saw hole video, and it´s was not overblown, GN says many times this is DATA that is not sustained by a lot of incidents.
Mostly i would say this video is clickbbait.

lexluthermiester · 2025-03-05T09:40:23+0000

sethmatrix7 said:
AssRock strikes again

It's not an exclusive Asrock problem.

Dorek · 2025-03-05T09:45:59+0000

Mine didnt have undervoltage, just the gskill not wanting to work together but it would boot after a couple restart buttons.

SL2 · 2025-03-05T10:08:02+0000

Can someone please fill me in here, impossible to keep up when news of failing HW are recycled and repackaged all the time.

Are there any reports of damaged CPU's or boards when using anything else than Asrock?

_roman_ said:
That INTEL CPU Socket which AMD copied is bad.

Yeah, that's just flamebait at best, totally ignoring the number of LGA sockets they've made up to this point.

GN has already showed that AM5 bends a lot less than LGA1700.

lexluthermiester said:
It's not an exclusive Asrock problem.

Are you talking about instability of damaged components?

lexluthermiester · 2025-03-05T10:53:47+0000

SL2 said:
Are you talking about instability or damaged components?

Did you mean "or"? Either way, I'm not going to be convinced this is a systemic problem for AsRock until more samples show up and they are exclusive to that brand.

AusWolf · 2025-03-05T11:29:14+0000

lexluthermiester said:
Did you mean "or"? Either way, I'm not going to be convinced this is a systemic problem for AsRock until more samples show up and they are exclusive to that brand.

Personally, I'm not gonna be convinced that this problem relates to anything else until more samples of different vendors show up.

lexluthermiester · 2025-03-06T02:19:21+0000

AusWolf said:
Personally, I'm not gonna be convinced that this problem relates to anything else until more samples of different vendors show up.

What? Really? :rolleyes:

AusWolf · 2025-03-06T06:51:54+0000

lexluthermiester said:
What? Really?

I'm not willing to make a judgement based on a sample size of 1 unit.

lexluthermiester · 2025-03-06T07:25:23+0000

AusWolf said:
I'm not willing to make a judgement based on a sample size of 1 unit.

I may have misunderstood you. My apologies. And I agree, that was my point as well.

AusWolf · 2025-03-06T07:27:57+0000

lexluthermiester said:
I may have misunderstood you. My apologies. And I agree, that was my point as well.

I may have misunderstood you, too. Fair point.

If there's no further news on the topic, we may as well point at user error.

lexluthermiester · 2025-03-06T07:32:59+0000

AusWolf said:
we may as well point at user error

Or a one-off manufacturing defect? Either with the chip or the board. Defects do happen. Their getting rarer these days, but not unheard of.

AusWolf · 2025-03-06T07:37:45+0000

lexluthermiester said:
Or a one-off manufacturing defect? Either with the chip or the board. Defects to happen. Their getting rarer these days, but not unheard of.

Or that. We'll never know from one example.

AVATARAT · 2025-03-06T07:38:07+0000

A Computer Guy said:
Unfortunately GN talks about ASRock UEFI/BIOS versions but nothing correlating to AGESA version. In the past UEFI/BIOS versions might be different between motherboards.
From what I gathered UEFI/BIOS update after AMD AGESA PI 1.2.0.2a might be problematic at least for ASRock boards with 9800X3D

From what I know, the problem is not Asrock related, be careful of any boards with this version of AGESA, and if you are using auto SOC voltage, if it goes too high just set it manually.

AusWolf · 2025-03-06T07:44:35+0000

AVATARAT said:
From what I know, the problem is not Asrock related, be careful of any boards with this version of AGESA, and if you are using auto SOC voltage, if it goes too high just set it manually.

It's it just the 9800X3D?

I've just updated my MSi board with Agesa 1.2.0.3, and it set an auto SoC of 1.3 V with EXPO, same as before.

AVATARAT · 2025-03-06T07:46:49+0000

AusWolf said:
It's it just the 9800X3D?

I've just updated my MSi board with Agesa 1.2.0.3, and it set an auto SoC of 1.3 V with EXPO, same as before.

Yes, 9800X3D only.

lexluthermiester · 2025-03-06T07:53:25+0000

AusWolf said:
Or that. We'll never know from one example.

Exactly. And we think about it, just having a one off is a good thing, even if we never understand the cause.

AusWolf · 2025-03-06T08:00:01+0000

AVATARAT said:
Yes, 9800X3D only.

Ah, that explains it. I have a 7800X3D.

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