Reports of Bricked NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 and RTX 5090D Surge

[Godrilla]

The GTX 690 had actually 2xGPUs in onboard SLI, so this is not a fair comparison.

Or the glass is half empty and the only way forward for true performance is mcm.

PC per article conclusion
$550 (the cost of another GTX 980) you will get 90% added performance.
Obviously 3 and 4th card always scaled bad.

NVIDIA GTX 980 3-Way and 4-Way SLI Performance - PC Perspective

NVIDIA GTX 980 3-Way and 4-Way SLI Performance The idea of multi-GPU gaming is pretty simple on the surface. By adding another GPU into your gaming PC, the

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update in sli we got 90% scaling from second card until 900 series for 100% premium. Now we get upto 50% performance delta for 100% premium over the the smaller tier with half the everything.

 

[Bomby569]

The only way I can think of, they set some voltage too high and burn/melt something. But we don't know what's really going on. See some posts above, this may be fixed by something as simple as petting the PCIe to 4.0 (of course, that's unconfirmed, too).

What we have so far is a handful of reports, no numbers mentioned and a lot pf people feasting on the bad news.

i imagined there were some hardware level restrictions to some bad bios values. But i guess i was wrong.

 

[mechtech]

Early adopter problems in the 1st world.

aka 1st world problems

 

[Dawora]

Overpriced and badly engineered. Way to go Nvidia, way to go.

Overpriced for someones..
New job or education to get a better new job is healthy challenge for ppls and then maybe 5090 not feel so overpriced anymore but
if gaming 1080p then yes its overpriced,but if gaming nice Oled 4k/5k monitor then 5090 is most wonderfull thing u can buy and enjoy next 2 years.

And u can sell it afther 2 years.... u know,u dont lost the money if u buy new +2000$ GPU, because u can sell it later and buy new 6090

Or the glass is half empty and the only way forward for true performance is mcm.

PC per article conclusion
$550 (the cost of another GTX 980) you will get 90% added performance.
Obviously 3 and 4th card always scaled bad.

NVIDIA GTX 980 3-Way and 4-Way SLI Performance - PC Perspective

NVIDIA GTX 980 3-Way and 4-Way SLI Performance The idea of multi-GPU gaming is pretty simple on the surface. By adding another GPU into your gaming PC, the

pcper.com

update in sli we got 90% scaling from second card until 900 series for 100% premium. Now we get upto 50% performance delta for 100% premium over the the smaller tier with half the everything.

its not so black and white.
1 gpu works every game nicely but there was allways more or less problems when playing games using SLI.

Gaming its more than game benchmarks and perf.results

Good luck with Indiana Jones.. game recently crashed and got the black screen issue. Full reinstall didn't fix it so it must be in some of the saved files.. AMD GPU though 24GB

AMD driver problem, use older drivers and reinstall game

I mean, it can make sense if you're doing AI, compute or otherwise make a living from it. $2k just for gaming... that's a little out there. Though again, some are make a living from gaming.

u wont lost the money, u can sell it afther 2y when 6090 is released or u can sell it now for $4K and make $2k profit then
buy 5080 $1.3k
Save $2.7k for 6090 almost free upgrade and sell 5080 to buy new CPU/ram/mopo
Now u have again High end PC almost for free.

 

[InVasMani]

Combined Balanced and Focused Dual GPU Design​

1. Fairly Balanced GPU Design​

• Single GPU Design:
  • Well-Balanced Across All Aspects: VRAM capacity, compute power, and cooling.
  • Benefit: Ensures consistent performance and efficiency across a wide range of tasks.
  • Use Case: Suitable for users who need a versatile GPU that can handle gaming, professional workloads, AI tasks, and more.

2. Highly Focused Dual GPU Design​

• Primary GPU (High-Performance):
  • Focus: Main rendering tasks, ray tracing, AI inference, and primary workload processing.
  • High VRAM: Large VRAM capacity for high-quality textures, models, and AI data.
  • Compute Power: High number of CUDA cores, RT cores, tensor cores, and AI accelerators for diverse tasks.
• Secondary GPU (Specialized):
  • Focus: Dedicated VRAM cache, hardware-accelerated physics calculations, DirectStorage integration, and AI processing.
  • High Bandwidth: Fast memory interfaces and high-speed data transfer capabilities.
  • Efficient Cooling: Optimized for maintaining low temperatures during intensive computations and AI tasks.

Benefits of Combined Focused Design​

• Optimized Resource Utilization:
  • Primary GPU: Handles the most demanding tasks, such as rendering, ray tracing, and AI inference, with ample VRAM and compute power.
  • Secondary GPU: Offloads specialized tasks like physics calculations, AI processing, and data caching, freeing up resources on the primary GPU.
• Enhanced Performance:
  • Parallel Processing: Both GPUs can work simultaneously, distributing workloads efficiently and improving overall performance.
  • Reduced Bottlenecks: Dedicated VRAM and high-speed interconnect reduce latency and data transfer bottlenecks.
• Scalability:
  • Expandable Setup: Easily add more GPUs to the system as needed, adapting to future performance requirements.
  • Forward Compatibility: Ensuring the system can handle advancements in technology and software.

Example Configuration​

• Primary GPU: Next-gen NVIDIA/INTEL/AMD for main rendering tasks, high VRAM, compute power, and AI inference.
• Secondary GPU: Another high-performance GPU for dedicated VRAM cache, physics calculations, DirectStorage integration, and AI processing.
• High-Speed Connection: PCIe 5.0 or 6.0 x16 external connection for fast data transfer between GPUs.
• Unified VRAM Pool: Combining the VRAM of both GPUs to create a large memory pool for efficient resource sharing.

Key Advantages Over Traditional SLI/CF or mGPU​

1. Unified VRAM Pool:
   • Combines the VRAM of both GPUs, providing a larger and more efficient memory resource.
2. High-Bandwidth Connection:
   • Utilizes a full-length PCIe x16 connection with higher bandwidth, reducing latency and improving data transfer rates.
3. Dedicated Hardware Acceleration:
   • Offloads physics calculations, DirectStorage, and AI processing to the secondary GPU, providing dedicated hardware acceleration for complex tasks.
4. Flexibility and Scalability:
   • More flexible and scalable, allowing for a mix of GPUs and easier expansion.
5. Software Optimization:
   • Leveraging modern PCIe standards and optimized drivers for better compatibility and consistent performance across various applications.

Example AI Applications​

• AI Inference for Gaming: Real-time AI-driven enhancements like procedural content generation, adaptive difficulty, and personalized experiences.
• AI-Assisted Art and Music: AI models like Suno or Udio creating dynamic soundtracks and art assets for games and media.
• AI-Driven Physics: More realistic and detailed physics simulations using AI to handle complex interactions and behaviors.
• Real-Time AI Customization: AI-driven customization of game textures, models, dialogue, and environments to suit individual player preferences.

 

[529th]

AMD driver problem, use older drivers and reinstall game

Data save corruption, not AMD Driver issue

 

[Shakallia]

Overpriced for someones..
New job or education to get a better new job is healthy challenge for ppls and then maybe 5090 not feel so overpriced anymore but
if gaming 1080p then yes its overpriced,but if gaming nice Oled 4k/5k monitor then 5090 is most wonderfull thing u can buy and enjoy next 2 years.

And u can sell it afther 2 years.... u know,u dont lost the money if u buy new +2000$ GPU, because u can sell it later and buy new 6090


its not so black and white.
1 gpu works every game nicely but there was allways more or less problems when playing games using SLI.

Gaming its more than game benchmarks and perf.results


AMD driver problem, use older drivers and reinstall game


u wont lost the money, u can sell it afther 2y when 6090 is released or u can sell it now for $4K and make $2k profit then
buy 5080 $1.3k
Save $2.7k for 6090 almost free upgrade and sell 5080 to buy new CPU/ram/mopo
Now u have again High end PC almost for free.

Dude, no matter how rich one is, that GPU is overpriced, for the simple reason that its sold way higher than it really costs, and I mean way higher. When someone buys that GPU, it is not an investment, you lose money, unless you're a scalper.

I can tell you most of the real gamers buying those, aren't rich, you'll find a quite a lot of working class people taking a loan or stupid shit like that.

It is sold at that price because Nvidia has been slowly bringing prices up, considering the lack of competition.

 

[TechKilledMe]

I think very few people are talking about the “custom” pcie connection to the daughter board for the pcie slot. Did they really think they could run Gen 5 on that? I mean obviously it works…. Most of the time. Probably with way less potential room for deviation as seen with these failures. Probably a “good enough” solution. I’m also extremely worried about the long term life of these cards. 750mm die, 16 memory chips, 575 watt tdp, all on PCBs like half the size of before. Power delivery BEHIND the GPU core. As well as the melty connector (as said by Buildzoid) These things are so thermally dense they are gonna cook themselves. Just my opinion as an armchair engineer.

 

[AndyGawg]

1. I genuinely feel sorry for anyone experiencing the plethora of issues re: Blackwell. Check out the NV forums. It's a rage fest. Also some sensible detailed posts of various issues. NV hasn't responded to any ot them that I could see.
Folks also complaining when they raise a ticket, they don't hear back, or in one post got a "bot like," incompetent answer.

2. My disgust with NV just gets worse. Not the pricing - yeah it's crazy, but that's business. People are prepared to pay, and still lining up to do so.

3. The 5080 is a joke. The kind of folks on here (Most people know their stuff!) May not visit a forum such as the techspot.com one. But they did an interesting multi-gen comparison of changes in all aspects of cards. For instance,
the step up in performance between 4080 to 5080, also other gens back to the wonderful GTX 1080ti. It's worth reading. They conclude the RTX 5080 is really, at best an RTX 5070 approximation. I wonder what folks here think of their fairly comprehensive analysis?

4. There are so many major complaints about the drivers, and the recent "hotfix," driver released, I am sure it's more than user ignorance. It's a mess and NV should be ashamed of themselves.

5. Now this new issue reported with the RTX 5090 failing, regardless if it's a PCIe issue or not is just unacceptable. Expensive kit that a lot of people have not even been able to use properly yet. Simply piss poor by them.

I don't and won't be getting one of these rip off, and highly disappointing cards. Particularly the RTX 5080 - although I acknowledge, NV know they will sell everything they make. Customers are partly to blame, you know, supply and demand side thing.

On a personal note, seeing that prat Jenson in his mirror shiny leather jackets. Well, he looks like an idiot.

Ok. Sorry folks. Rant over.

 

[bug]

1. I genuinely feel sorry for anyone experiencing the plethora of issues re: Blackwell. Check out the NV forums. It's a rage fest. Also some sensible detailed posts of various issues. NV hasn't responded to any ot them that I could see.

Early adopter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[AndyGawg]

Calmer now. As usual the posters on here are sensible look beneath the raging surface. This a very impressive forum.

I think I over did my rant above. After reading quite a lot of the reasoned posts in this thread, the noise (on other sites) is drowning out the reality.

Still. One thing. I do consider the RTX 5080 a disappointment. Still, I don't own one so can't speak from experience.

I am hoping, seriously, that before the next holidays, around 10 months later there will be a RTX 5080ti or RTX 5080 super. I am not holding my breath, but since Pascal I've always waited for the mid-gen ti cards.

Driver and other issues should be fixed, or at least improved by then. Inventory of parts will be better, and there is the possibility of an excellent mid gen release. It won't be cheap, but NV could release a card that would genuinly impress anyone who has the basic knowledge to install it properly, and use software to get great performance. Well, that's my hope.

Fair enough @bug. You are right.

 

[bug]

Calmer now. As usual the posters on here are sensible look beneath the raging surface. This a very impressive forum.

I think I over did my rant above. After reading quite a lot of the reasoned posts in this thread, the noise (on other sites) is drowning out the reality.

Still. One thing. I do consider the RTX 5080 a disappointment. Still, I don't own one so can't speak from experience.

I am hoping, seriously, that before the next holidays, around 10 months later there will be a RTX 5080ti or RTX 5080 super. I am not holding my breath, but since Pascal I've always waited for the mid-gen ti cards.

Driver and other issues should be fixed, or at least improved by then. Inventory of parts will be better, and there is the possibility of an excellent mid gen release. It won't be cheap, but NV could release a card that would genuinly impress anyone who has the basic knowledge to install it properly, and use software to get great performance. Well, that's my hope.

Tbh, I agree that paying so much money and getting such small increases, sucks more than it used to.
I have explained in other posts why the big performance jumps of the past are gone for good. But it still sucks.

 

[AndyGawg]

Early adopter - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Thanks for that. Can't argue with it. I did get rather carried away.

 

[Godrilla]

Overpriced for someones..
New job or education to get a better new job is healthy challenge for ppls and then maybe 5090 not feel so overpriced anymore but
if gaming 1080p then yes its overpriced,but if gaming nice Oled 4k/5k monitor then 5090 is most wonderfull thing u can buy and enjoy next 2 years.

And u can sell it afther 2 years.... u know,u dont lost the money if u buy new +2000$ GPU, because u can sell it later and buy new 6090


its not so black and white.
1 gpu works every game nicely but there was allways more or less problems when playing games using SLI.

Gaming its more than game benchmarks and perf.results


AMD driver problem, use older drivers and reinstall game


u wont lost the money, u can sell it afther 2y when 6090 is released or u can sell it now for $4K and make $2k profit then
buy 5080 $1.3k
Save $2.7k for 6090 almost free upgrade and sell 5080 to buy new CPU/ram/mopo
Now u have again High end PC almost for free.

As long as it's not burning the whole system to achieve that 30% delta in performance oh wait!

 

[Degreco]

As long as it's not burning the whole system to achieve that 30% delta in performance oh wait!

131°C on the psu side after one minute of furmark? That can't be good.

der8auer also measured 22 Amps on one of the cables of his 5090 FE on one pin - that is way over specification for any 12v pc cable (current thickness standards taken into account), be it third party or not.

And this is measured after 5 minutes:
150°C on the psu side, 90°C on the GPU side of the cable! I completely trust somebody like der8auer to fully connect a cable.

He is completely right to question the "user error" and "third party cheapo cable" arguments from the fanboys. This is simply not suitable for builders in the DIY scene and things will get more problematic in the future if Nvidia does not change those temps and rework the throttle threshold. I mean 150 degree celsius, come on!

I wonder how people like Visible Noise will respond (just pointing him out because of his insulting tone in this thread speaking about other forum members missing cognitive abilities when they have other opinions).
Nvidia loyalists certainly have to work harder at the moment to keep up their cognitive dissonance (to use the term 'cognitive' in a somewhat better way imho).

 

[LittleBro]

No man, definitely user error. You just need to know when the connector is seated properly. Then you're safe to go. How to know this remains a mystery.

A fact that connectors always seats differently is caused by stupid user not knowing how to seat it properly (meaning to just the right place). User lacks the ability. Must be user error then.

/sarcasm

 

[Godrilla]

No man, definitely user error. You just need to know when the connector is seated properly. Then you're safe to go.

A fact that connectors always seats differently is caused by stupid user not knowing how to seat it properly (meaning to just the right place). User lacks the ability. Must be user error then.

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People are saying is penny pinching more like.
What do you call doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different outcome?

 

[passenger]

Better bricked than burning down.
That's what I would do until it was figured out if it was either a low level Electrical engineering error, software error, or user error.

(On a side note, Wall St. DC Are all stuck on Repeat.)
/Passenger hides his face

 

[smereces]

I recently bought the Palit RTX 5090 GAMEROCK OC 32GB, and i can´t put it working!!! only work in safe mode or until i install any NVIDIA drivers! after the drivers get installed the PC simple freeze and need to shutdown! after restart when i get the login screen in a few seconds freeze!! it just not work!

- I test connected by HDMI and display port
- I test in different monitors
- I test the last nvidia drivers and all the older ones until January that support rtx50
- I update windows with last updates
- I update BIOS Motherboard

nothings get results always when i got the windows login screen the PC immediately freeze!!

Anyone have this kind issues? this is a graphic card problem? or may be caused by my system motherboard be old?

My System:

CPU: Ryzen Threadripper 2970wx
RAM: 98GB
Motherboard : ASROCK X399 TAICHI
SSD Samsung Pro 2TB
Windows 11

 

[AsRock]

It's not permanent, it's not a hardware failure. It's fixed by setting the slot to gen 4.

To be perfectly clear, the only reason it's related to installing drivers is because Windows doesn't run the slot at full speed until drivers are installed.

This is a completely expected teething-pain issue with a new PCIe generation and will undoubtedly be resolved in a new BIOS.

Fixed ?, but you paid for it to have PCIe 5 right ?, regardless how little performance increase you still want it to work at it's best even more so shelling out so much.

Just another fck up.

 

[Prima.Vera]

u wont lost the money, u can sell it afther 2y when 6090 is released or u can sell it now for $4K and make $2k profit then
buy 5080 $1.3k
Save $2.7k for 6090 almost free upgrade and sell 5080 to buy new CPU/ram/mopo
Now u have again High end PC almost for free.

Serious question. Are you on drugs or just trolling nonsense??

 

[Dawora]

Serious question. Are you on drugs or just trolling nonsense??

i sold 5090 almost 5k
So i can buy even new PC for free now.. so no trolling and also no nonsense

U wont lose all the money if u buy GPU
If u bought 4090 couple years ago u can still sell it, u didint know that?

 

[bug]

I recently bought the Palit RTX 5090 GAMEROCK OC 32GB, and i can´t put it working!!! only work in safe mode or until i install any NVIDIA drivers! after the drivers get installed the PC simple freeze and need to shutdown! after restart when i get the login screen in a few seconds freeze!! it just not work!

- I test connected by HDMI and display port
- I test in different monitors
- I test the last nvidia drivers and all the older ones until January that support rtx50
- I update windows with last updates
- I update BIOS Motherboard

nothings get results always when i got the windows login screen the PC immediately freeze!!

Anyone have this kind issues? this is a graphic card problem? or may be caused by my system motherboard be old?

My System:

CPU: Ryzen Threadripper 2970wx
RAM: 98GB
Motherboard : ASROCK X399 TAICHI
SSD Samsung Pro 2TB
Windows 11

Is your PSU up to the task?
Also, Treadripper 2000 series is not on Win11 official supported CPU list. Always a potential source of trouble.

 

[smereces]

Is your PSU up to the task?
Also, Treadripper 2000 series is not on Win11 official supported CPU list. Always a potential source of trouble.

I dont have sure about the PSU but HX1000watts should not be enought!?

about the cpu maybe, and motherboard be old cannot be also the problem?

 

[bug]

I dont have sure about the PSU but HX1000watts should not be enought!?

about the cpu maybe, and motherboard be old cannot be also the problem?

PSU is fine. But yes, since X399 was made for Threadrippers, that may not be supported either. If the chipset lacks proper support, any number of things attached to it can malfunction.

Normally, I would say "boot Linux from a bootable stick", that will tell you if it's a hardware or a software problem. But Linux (from a stick) wouldn't load the proper driver for the video card, so not much help in this case, I'm afraid.