X-Fi Support Syndicate & Owner's Clubhouse

[btarunr]

Running an Xfi in vista is shit.

Why can someone make there own HAck drviers that get all the nice bits working for vista. but the company that make the card can't.

Creative are run by retards end of line .. i hope they go broke ..

Please refrain from such comments on this thread, it's a support thread with the odd technology discussion, constructive discussions work here. Perhaps you could voice your opinions on this thread.

 

[Cold Storm]

all right guys. I'll have rm tell you all the monbo jumbo whenever he can... I've fixed the opamp problem that I had. The left side was louder then the right.. well or I thought it was fixed. Now, with the new Opamp I hear the left perfect, but the right isn't "really" there. Worse then how it was with the other opamp.. Rm is thinking its something to do with Volts to the right side of the opamp.. Me, I don't know.. lol.. So, what do you guys think it is???

 

[imperialreign]

all right guys. I'll have rm tell you all the monbo jumbo whenever he can... I've fixed the opamp problem that I had. The left side was louder then the right.. well or I thought it was fixed. Now, with the new Opamp I hear the left perfect, but the right isn't "really" there. Worse then how it was with the other opamp.. Rm is thinking its something to do with Volts to the right side of the opamp.. Me, I don't know.. lol.. So, what do you guys think it is???

just curious, what kinda setup are you running? Also, double check your channel volume levels in the WIN audio control panel as well; go to start>control panel>sounds & audio devices - then under speaker settings click on "speaker volume" For some reason, XP likes to drop certain audio channels now and then. Asides - what volume level do you have playback set at?

If it's something to do with the board itself, though . . . did you remove the audio filter capacitors on the board? I don't think it has anything to do with it, but it might . . . need to think on this one a bit . . .

 

[Cold Storm]

my set up now is with the Striker II and running xp. I decided to go xp since I wanted the sound card to WORK! lol

I believe the audio filter was not removed but changed out. I changed out two of the capacitors.


as of settings on xp, its

If I turn down the left speaker, I don't even hear the right. Not at all.. This is the same thing that happened when I changed out the opamp the first time..

 

[imperialreign]

are you 100% sure you have the OPAMP oriented correctly on the PCB?

 

[Cold Storm]

I can have RM change it out after getting back from CompUSA... Then I can tell you if its that.. but I believe he did do it right..

 

[imperialreign]

I can have RM change it out after getting back from CompUSA... Then I can tell you if its that.. but I believe he did do it right..

not doubting ya, but it can happen, and it's quite possible it could cause that kind of an issue.

From the way you make it sound, it's as if the left and right channels have been bridged and are partially running together

 

[Cold Storm]

not doubting ya, but it can happen, and it's quite possible it could cause that kind of an issue.

From the way you make it sound, it's as if the left and right channels have been bridged and are partially running together

I know. and I wasn't say you where. It does sound like that.. lol.. We'll I'll see about that and get with it. talk later

 

[btarunr]

Huh!? You replaced the OPAMP? That's amazing. How about a close snap of those OPAMPs ? If they work on Xtreme Music, it should work on Xtreme Gamer as well. Give us either a close-up or at least tell what's printed on the surface of the OPAMPs.....so I could try and get some myself.

 

[Cold Storm]

I make RM show you the stuff. He's getting together a Mod thread. Just have to light something under his a$$ to get it going. I don't have the card anymore.. lol.. Told him if he can make it come life again, then its his.. He's thinking its something to do with not being fully connected to the board itself...

 

[btarunr]

lol 100% soft-volume for X-Fi is 200% hardware volume (or 200% signal). It causes distortion. Always maintain software volume (of volume control) at 50% for 100% signal without distortions. Anything beyond 50% SV is amplified, which isn't needed.

 

[Cold Storm]

Oh yeah, I hear that when I move up the volume.. well the popping i guess you say it as... But for some reason every opamp he put on it just would work with the left and not the right side of the speaker...

So, since now he has better sodering stuff, I think he'll be able to fix it.

 

[Jonny_doe]

I'm running Vista x86 , with a Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music Sound card ,
does anyone know where i can download the Daniel_K's X-fi vista drivers from ???
I've been told there the best to use , but i can't find them anywhere now

 

[btarunr]

I'm running Vista x86 , with a Creative X-Fi Xtreme Music Sound card ,
does anyone know where i can download the Daniel_K's X-fi vista drivers from ???
I've been told there the best to use , but i can't find them anywhere now

Hi,

You will find all DK drivers related info and additional help in this thread. Look out for posts by a user named Solaris17. He has the details with him.

 

[Cold Storm]

Oh, I forgot to tell you Bta, that RM got it working! It was a connection that was tampered with. So he used in ink and fixed it. I'll try and steal it back from him to take pictures for you. You might just want to PM Rm and ask what he did.. I couldn't begin to tell you how everything was changed.

 

[btarunr]

Nice. My advice to you would be that you connect the power-input (4-pin floppy power input). While its job is to power the external IO, a molex typically has a +12v and +3.3v phase....which can be utilised by the card. So, since you have a new set of OPAMP circuitry, feed the card well....to keep up with the upto 6V output.


Secondly, the newest (March 2008) drivers require you to click 'default' in the consoles of all three modes to reset the soft-volume. After that you can set your preferences with CMSS, Crystalizer, SVM, etc. There's a bug detected with the console routing soft-volume with sndvol32 in Windows XP/2000

 

[Jonny_doe]

Hi,

You will find all DK drivers related info and additional help in this thread. Look out for posts by a user named Solaris17. He has the details with him.

Hey many thanks i've found and installed the drivers , but the software update wants to update to the 0006 drivers , will update take away the good that D_K did , or will his fixes still remain ???

 

[Cold Storm]

Nice. My advice to you would be that you connect the power-input (4-pin floppy power input). While its job is to power the external IO, a molex typically has a +12v and +3.3v phase....which can be utilised by the card. So, since you have a new set of OPAMP circuitry, feed the card well....to keep up with the upto 6V output.


Secondly, the newest (March 2008) drivers require you to click 'default' in the consoles of all three modes to reset the soft-volume. After that you can set your preferences with CMSS, Crystalizer, SVM, etc. There's a bug detected with the console routing soft-volume with sndvol32 in Windows XP/2000

Well, I gave the Card to RM. Its his baby now.. I bought another card.. Wish I didn't in ways since Now I can see if the front panel mod works and what not... oh well... I'll let him know...

 

[btarunr]

Hey many thanks i've found and installed the drivers , but the software update wants to update to the 0006 drivers , will update take away the good that D_K did , or will his fixes still remain ???

Ignore software-update. It will download and install the March 2008 driver from Creative, bye bye Dan.

 

[imperialreign]

Nice. My advice to you would be that you connect the power-input (4-pin floppy power input). While its job is to power the external IO, a molex typically has a +12v and +3.3v phase....which can be utilised by the card. So, since you have a new set of OPAMP circuitry, feed the card well....to keep up with the upto 6V output.


Secondly, the newest (March 2008) drivers require you to click 'default' in the consoles of all three modes to reset the soft-volume. After that you can set your preferences with CMSS, Crystalizer, SVM, etc. There's a bug detected with the console routing soft-volume with sndvol32 in Windows XP/2000

I thought as much - but wasn't sure, and I haven't heard much else about it. TBH, I thought it was just an issue with my install of XP

It has been driving me batty trying to figure out why my volume levels seemed to be all over the place at times, and I had noticed that the volume set in the Volume Control panel was different than what was shown in the Audio Mode panel.



As to the power connector - I've truly been starting to wonder if it might actually do some good to have it plugged in. I've been meaning to take the card out and trace the board to see if the power pins are actually routed to other components on the board as well, or if they only feed to the I/O connector on the PCI plate. Perhaps I'll get to that either this evening or tomorrow.

 

[Jonny_doe]

Hey , i just noticed that daniel_k has released 'SB X-Fi Series Installation Disc for Windows XP/Vista (unofficial)'

I thought he'd given up , these have the newer 0006 drivers in ..


more details here ...

http://forums.creative.com/creativelabs/board/message?board.id=Vista&thread.id=32040

 

[EarlZ]

It it just me or do my mp3's sound better on entertainment mode ( same settings with game mode ) ???

 

[imperialreign]

It it just me or do my mp3's sound better on entertainment mode ( same settings with game mode ) ???

They should - entertainment mode utilizes more "software" acceleration for carrying out audio processing, and for playing back a broader audio spectrum as compared to game mode . . . you should also find that audio creation mode should sound very similar to entertainment mode as well.

Game mode puts the card under full hardware acceleration, and combined with the software drivers, it looks for "clues" in the audio calls and within a game engine as to how to play a certain audio file - in regards to it's loudness, occlussion or any other filtering. In general, your run of the mill mp3s, and other compressed audio files don't have any filtering information sent to the driver, so files are played back "as is". Big reason why audio files will sound different in-game, as compared to if you extract them and play them seperately.

 

[happita]

Hello. May I join? I have an X-Fi in my sig. Check it out.

 

[btarunr]

Hello. May I join? I have an X-Fi in my sig. Check it out.

Ofcourse you can, welcome aboard. Imp will update the member list as soon as he comes up.