Evaluation of the 45nm AMD Deneb Reveals an Efficient Processor in the Making

OzzmanFloyd120 · Aug 12, 2008

Mussels said:
AMD and intel are fairly even in the STOCK comparison, its just that intels OC'd so high that in the enthusiast market they never had a chance.

most stock users look up reviews, hear a chip was a 'great clocker' have no idea what it means and buy it anyway.

Which is 90% of people who buy hardware. I don't consider OCing as pushing performance as much as I consider it optimization of current hardware.

Edit: also every review I've ever seen (other than TPU) has given crappy little overclocks that really don't amount to anything. Pity really.

vojc · Aug 12, 2008

NOT BAD NOT BAD, i like it

candle_86 · Aug 12, 2008

as I said this will be a beast as long as AMD does some agressive marketing, if they don't it wont sell as well as Intel. You have to win over the hearts and minds of intel users.

OzzmanFloyd120 · Aug 12, 2008

candle_86 said:
as I said this will be a beast as long as AMD does some agressive marketing, if they don't it wont sell as well as Intel. You have to win over the hearts and minds of average Joes.

Corrected, people who use intel use them because they OC forever, average Joes buy Intel because they look and say "Hey, it's got 'Intel inside,' see? What's this A...M...D? FUCK THAT!"

Mussels · Aug 12, 2008

OzzmanFloyd120 said:
Which is 90% of people who buy hardware. I don't consider OCing as pushing performance as much as I consider it optimization of current hardware.

Edit: also every review I've ever seen (other than TPU) has given crappy little overclocks that really don't amount to anything. Pity really.

its entirely depends on the system and its intended uses. if someone is buying a system for high OC's, go intel (its easier, thats for sure if you get a low stock FSB chip)

if someone is buying on a budget the E2160 kicks ass for its OCability, but if they're concerned abotu warranty or have no intention to OC then AMD certainly has a place there.

its not like AMD are useless, its just that in most situations theres a reason to go intel over AMD... and some of those will go away if those new wattage numbers are true.

candle_86 · Aug 12, 2008

I go AMD simply for the fact I can't afford top range stuff, I have a crosshair out of dumb luck, but my boards tend to be ECS or lowend ASUS boards that do not overclock at all. Its just a matter of cost, so for me getting the best stock bang for the buck matters. I went x2 4200 after the Core2 E2xxx line was out, as an x2 4200 EE out preforms them at stock and I have low power to boot. My 65w Windows rules.

Hayder_Master · Aug 12, 2008

what about overclock , and im wait maybe for some amd with 8mb L3 cash

OzzmanFloyd120 · Aug 12, 2008

hayder.master said:
what about overclock , and im wait maybe for some amd with 8mb L3 cash

Err, if it's anything like the 2mb L3 cache it's worthless.

Winterwind · Aug 12, 2008

dont forget that SB750 lowers the TDP compared to SB600.
that test was done with SB600 mobo so Deneb and SB750 would
lower the power draw even more

Ekklesis · Aug 12, 2008

Let's hope AMD will rise again cause it will be a refreshing change...

Valdez · Aug 12, 2008

i wonder if they fit in the good old am2?

Ekklesis · Aug 12, 2008

Valdez said:
i wonder if they fit in the good old am2?

All 45 chips tested from various sites till now are in form of AM2+ socket(it deppends of bios version offered by every mobo maker but it is advised to purchase an AM2+ mobo)... AM3 will appear in 2009...

Valdez · Aug 12, 2008

Ekklesis said:
All 45 chips tested from various sites till now are in form of AM2+ socket(it deppends of bios version offered by every mobo maker but it is advised to purchase an AM2+ mobo)... AM3 will appear in 2009...

My am2 mobo is compatible with all am2+ chips, i hope deneb will fit into it too

suraswami · Aug 12, 2008

Hope ECS gets out a bios update for my Blacky board, then I will sure go for it.

PCpraiser100 · Aug 13, 2008

I still don't trust Chinese sites, but I'll ask my friend's father who works at the AMD building (yeah thats right!) to see if this is true. I'm getting the phone....

3 minutes later....

He's on vacation for 2 weeks.

peach1971 · Aug 28, 2008

Congrats, AMD! :toast:

Though I´d like to see power consumption for the 3.2 GHz OC.
Anyways, killing ~50% energy appetite sounds record-breaking to my ears.

peach1971 · Aug 28, 2008

PCpraiser100 said:
I still don't trust Chinese sites, but I'll ask my friend's father who works at the AMD building (yeah thats right!) to see if this is true. I'm getting the phone....

3 minutes later....

He's on vacation for 2 weeks.

We´ll stay tuned

PVTCaboose1337 · Aug 28, 2008

Valdez said:
My am2 mobo is compatible with all am2+ chips, i hope deneb will fit into it too

+1. My M2n is still waiting for a phenom, but I minus well wait for a Deneb.

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Evaluation of the 45nm AMD Deneb Reveals an Efficient Processor in the Making

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