Core i7 965 XE Unboxed, Stock Cooler and Processor Exposed

[bird1]

Fake!

Are you stupid? It's a big FAKE. Look out for the "INTEL CONFIDENTIAL" note on the processor! It's just az Engineering Sample.

 

[ChromeDome]

don't care if its fake it looks damn sexy

i like fake boobs, too

 

[InnocentCriminal]

LOL!

Welcome to the forums Bird!

LOLOLOLOL!

 

[DrPepper]

I don't think the stock cooler is supposed to perform well anyway, since if it kept it cool even oc'd to about 4ghz then there would no market for after market coolers.

 

[btarunr]

Are you stupid? It's a big FAKE. Look out for the "INTEL CONFIDENTIAL" note on the processor! It's just az Engineering Sample.

It is indeed an engg. sample. Nobody denied that. You can't link the fact that it's an ES to it being fake.

 

[cdawall]

Are you stupid? It's a big FAKE. Look out for the "INTEL CONFIDENTIAL" note on the processor! It's just az Engineering Sample.

whats your point how does that make it any less of a i7 965? i have a e7200ES it looks the same way? is it any less of a e7200 b/c its an ES?

 

[InnocentCriminal]

Bird obviously doesn't know what he/she is talking about.

 

[btarunr]

whats your point how does that make it any less of a i7 965? i have a e7200ES it looks the same way? is it any less of a e7200 b/c its an ES?

In reality it's more. An ES is usually of a higher-grade and tends to OC better than retail chips.

 

[Morgoth]

its getting close

 

[El Fiendo]

As for the question of whether the design is fake due to the lack of shroud on the fan, Intel hasn't used any shrouds on stock coolers since around the P4. At least, not that I have seen. Maybe not the best design, but I'm actually quite surprised at how Intel's coolers have beaten third party products in performance or noise level. Not even talking about the obvious cheapies you can buy.

 

[Konceptz]

In reality it's more. An ES is usually of a higher-grade and tends to OC better than retail chips.

You know he is right, I have a ES 9770. Anyway, thats the real thing, i've seen it before back when I was working as a tech for a OEM PC manufacturer, I can't say which one just to cover my arse...but trust me, thats the real thing people.

 

[bird1]

My point was that it's not a retail i7 965 that is supposed to go for sale.

Besides, E.S. parts usually has no specific number (i.e. 965), instead they titled simply f.ex. "Intel Engineering Sample", or so. (Look at some CPU-Z screenshots...)

 

[erocker]

My point was that it's not a retail i7 965 that is supposed to go for sale.

Besides, E.S. parts usually has no specific number (i.e. 965), instead they titled simply f.ex. "Intel Engineering Sample", or so. (Look at some CPU-Z screenshots...)

No one claimed it to be the retail chip.

 

[btarunr]

My point was that it's not a retail i7 965 that is supposed to go for sale.

Besides, E.S. parts usually has no specific number (i.e. 965), instead they titled simply f.ex. "Intel Engineering Sample", or so. (Look at some CPU-Z screenshots...)

Looking at the white box, it's more than commonsense telling it's not the retail part. However, that's what you get inside a 965 XE box. That's the cooler you get, that's the packaging you get, that's the dimensions of the box. Which even carries the sticker. Yes, the sticker is blurred, for security reasons (since the photographer breached NDA in taking/publishing those pics, and if the batch numbers are shown in the pics, Intel could easily track down which channel vendor gave away the sample (and allowed pics). And for the last time, the cooler is not a fake. And that's an XE cooler you won't be getting with a 920/940, etc.

With 920/940, this is the cooler you're most likely to get:

 

[InnocentCriminal]

HUH!

I may just have a suspicious mind, but is it me or... nah, nevermind, I'd be going off topic.

 

[Konceptz]

My point was that it's not a retail i7 965 that is supposed to go for sale.

Besides, E.S. parts usually has no specific number (i.e. 965), instead they titled simply f.ex. "Intel Engineering Sample", or so. (Look at some CPU-Z screenshots...)

you do realize there is no visable difference between a engineering sample and a retail chip, the only way you can tell one from the other is that it says ES on it.

 

[lemonadesoda]

Some peeps said (earlier in thread) that ES samples are better than final retail. Not true! ES samples are often "pre-stepping". They can be an absolute nightmare for some BIOSes. Some of them are buggy. Some of them run hot. Case in point: Pentium M engineering samples. You can pick ES very cheap on ebay. No one wants them.

 

[Konceptz]

Some peeps said (earlier in thread) that ES samples are better than final retail. Not true! ES samples are often "pre-stepping". They can be an absolute nightmare for some BIOSes. Some of them are buggy. Some of them run hot. Case in point: Pentium M engineering samples. You can pick ES very cheap on ebay. No one wants them.

ES chips are luck of the draw. Some chips are horrible, and then some are actually better then the retail.

 

[cdawall]

My point was that it's not a retail i7 965 that is supposed to go for sale.

Besides, E.S. parts usually has no specific number (i.e. 965), instead they titled simply f.ex. "Intel Engineering Sample", or so. (Look at some CPU-Z screenshots...)

point being noone came out and said hey here is a retail 965

Some peeps said (earlier in thread) that ES samples are better than final retail. Not true! ES samples are often "pre-stepping". They can be an absolute nightmare for some BIOSes. Some of them are buggy. Some of them run hot. Case in point: Pentium M engineering samples. You can pick ES very cheap on ebay. No one wants them.

2nd'd my PD805ES chipwas even unlocked and it was terrible

ES chips are luck of the draw. Some chips are horrible, and then some are actually better then the retail.

yep e7200ES of mine is nice

 

[bird1]

No one claimed it to be the retail chip.

Sure? The article reads:

Mobile101, unboxed the i7 965 before launch.

It sounds to me like it's a piece of a batch of retail chips waiting for the launch, at some retailer.
E.S. chips are not supposed to be handled this way, right? E.S. chips are there to help engineers to design motherboards, OEM's to make new systems, and so on -- even before and unrelated to the official launch date.

you do realize there is no visable difference between a engineering sample and a retail chip, the only way you can tell one from the other is that it says ES on it.

I do. Of course I did not mean it's a fake processor package in itself, LOL.

(Regarding the cooler, if it's not a retail package, one can't be absolutly sure the retail one is going to go with the same cooler..)

 

[btarunr]

Sure? The article reads:

It sounds to me like it's a piece of a batch of retail chips waiting for the launch, at some retailer.
E.S. chips are not supposed to be handled this way, right? E.S. chips are there to help engineers to design motherboards, OEM's to make new systems, and so on -- even before and unrelated to the official launch date.


I do. Of course I did not mean it's a fake processor package in itself, LOL.

(Regarding the cooler, if it's not a retail package, one can't be absolutly sure the retail one is going to go with the same cooler..)

Intel's coolers that are engineering samples, always carry an ES mark on the cooler's sticker, this one didn't, it's not an ES. Other websites are even terming this as an "unofficial unboxing" with no regard to it being an ES chip. Why? because the retail package is going to resemble this. example: http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=21874&catid=2 it has little to do with a whether it's a retail package. It is said to resemble it.

 

[bird1]

Intel's coolers that are engineering samples, always carry an ES mark on the cooler's sticker, this one didn't, it's not an ES. Other websites are even terming this as an "unofficial unboxing" with no regard to it being an ES chip. Why? because the retail package is going to resemble this. example: http://www.tcmagazine.com/comments.php?id=21874&catid=2 it has little to do with a whether it's a retail package. It is said to resemble it.

I don't think unboxing an ES chip is unofficial, once you got it... You get it to unbox it, and use it for what's needed. It's to post photos of it that's unofficial, and perhaps illegal, as well.

All in all, it's not an unofficial unboxing of a retail i7 965 XE processor package, but an unboxing of a package holding an ES chip, and supposing the "real thing" will resemble to this all.

 

[cdawall]

Sure? The article reads:

It sounds to me like it's a piece of a batch of retail chips waiting for the launch, at some retailer.
E.S. chips are not supposed to be handled this way, right? E.S. chips are there to help engineers to design motherboards, OEM's to make new systems, and so on -- even before and unrelated to the official launch date.


I do. Of course I did not mean it's a fake processor package in itself, LOL.

(Regarding the cooler, if it's not a retail package, one can't be absolutly sure the retail one is going to go with the same cooler..)

there are several reasons ES chips are sent out some get sent out to be oc'd to death some are sent out to be tested by OEM's some are sent to test intel's coolers.

the copper+alum is a pretty smart way to increase the ability of the cooler to cool while keeping costs low and weight down. ugly and smart lol

 

[zads]

1. i7 is delayed until Q1 2009

2. Who cares if the XE fan design is good or sucks? How many people are actually gonna buy that processor at $1000+? I highly doubt many of those people are gonna stick with stock heatsink fan.

 

[tcorbyn]

LOL, I myself had a chance to play around with one of those a month back. I cant say anyhing about performance of the CPU or the stock cooler :rolleys: Pretty cool to see the picies out now though Will be getting 920 when they come out ...wonder what watercoolingwill be like, looking at the size of that thing...