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Intel to Retaliate to AMD Phenom II Overclocking Feat, Plans Demonstration at CES '09

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Intel plans its own public demonstration of the overclocking capabilities of the Core i7 processors. This, in response to rival AMD achieving an overclock of well beyond 5.00 GHz, and booting at speeds above 6.00 GHz. The engineers at Intel reportedly carried out a large-scale binning of Core i7 processors, to cherry-pick the best performing part. The scale of binning could well be best of 100,000 units.

A chief engineer at Intel, Francoise Piednoel expressed his reservations regarding the 6.00 GHz overclocking feat AMD carried out with its upcoming Phenom II X4 processor last week, saying that the overclocking capabilities of the Phenom II X4 demonstrated do not reflect those of release-grade products, and cannot be replicated in a real-world setting. AMD may have disabled several sensors on the cherry-picked chip used in its demonstration, which facilitated that overclock. In response to this, Intel would be disabling the same sensors, in its special demonstration chip. The demo could be held at CES 2009. The professional overclocker chosen to achieve this feat would be none other than FUGGER from XtremeSystems. FUGGER could be set the task of taking the most desirable, binned Core i7 965 Extreme Edition chip all the way up to a stellar 7.00 GHz, if all goes well.



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I love package. Just screams "Godly Chip".
 

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I cant wait to see that happen, maybe by then they will be able to reach speeds well past the 7ghz mark..maybe.
 
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LOL, this will be LN2 only.

Unless they like to catch the bench tables on fire haha
 
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I'm just gonna say it now . . .

but, if the new Intel chip fails to meet their hoped-for mark . . . I think I'll end up soaking myself laughing.

notice - I'm not saying it isn't possible or won't happen . . . but if the irony strikes . . .
 
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how in the world would he know for sure what AMD did to their chips behind the scenes, if they did anything at all.
we already have core i7 in stores and well know how it clocks, so that 7 ghz will not mean much
 
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I love package. Just screams "Godly Chip".

That got me to thinking. With these uber-binned chips, Intel should put a polished IHS on them. People would instantly know what they are and it would increase it's value even more. Plus, it would be darn cool.
 

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That got me to thinking. With these uber-binned chips, Intel should put a polished IHS on them. People would instantly know what they are and it would increase it's value even more. Plus, it would be darn cool.

Something like this?
 

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So, there we have the best ever i7 and Intel will publicly destroy it and even pay for it (doubt he'll have to do it for free). Give it to me, I'll read it bed time stories and tug it in every night :)
 

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I bet he'll even get to keep the chip I know I would want to, He'll probably do his famous break 6 records in 2 minutes act again.
 

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as long as the runaway amp problem doesnt plague him i think 6ghz is possible with a 965ee if not more.
 

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what happened there they forget the original clocks and challenge about overclock , the stock clock must be first option , not everyone have liquid nitrogen in his kitchen
 

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AMD managed to poke the sleeping Intel monster with a sharp stick :))
Good, we could see "action" again next year. We desperately need this competition to keep prices down!
 
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I hope it goes very well for them or the i7 prices will remain stagnant...... :(
 

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A chief engineer at Intel, Francoise Piednoel expressed his reservations regarding the 6.00 GHz overclocking feat AMD carried out with its upcoming Phenom II X4 processor last week, saying that the overclocking capabilities of the Phenom II X4 demonstrated do not reflect those of release-grade products, and cannot be replicated in a real-world setting. AMD may have disabled several sensors on the cherry-picked chip used in its demonstration, which facilitated that overclock. In response to this, Intel would be disabling the same sensors, in its special demonstration chip. The demo could be held at CES 2009. The professional overclocker chosen to achieve this feat would be none other than FUGGER from XtremeSystems. FUGGER could be set the task of taking the most desirable, binned Core i7 965 Extreme Edition chip all the way up to a stellar 7.00 GHz, if all goes well.

The only thing i find wrong with this is when they say they have reservations regarding PII's achievable OC with real-world settings but talk about a very special binned chip for their own record-breaking OC tests.

How do they know if the PII tests had anything different then a "regular" engineering sample, much like those of i7 that were posted before the chip came out?
 
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AMD may have disabled several sensors on the cherry-picked chip used in its demonstration, which facilitated that overclock. In response to this, Intel would be disabling the same sensors, in its special demonstration chip.

LOL

AMD MAY have disabled the sensors so we ARE going to. :laugh:
 

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AMD may have disabled several sensors on the cherry-picked chip used in its demonstration, which facilitated that overclock. In response to this, Intel would be disabling the same sensors, in its special demonstration chip.

LOL

AMD MAY have disabled the sensors so we ARE going to. :laugh:

My point exactly.
 
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Did I just read that Intel are openly gonna cheat with a special demo cpu because they believe amd MAY have used a special demo cpu ? ;)
 
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oh well we'll see what happens .... but i'm not sure about the whole special picked/altered chips, either ... sounds kinda fishy to me
 
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