amd`s prescott
they had their prescotts with B2 and B3 revisions they cant reapet tha all the time :rofl:
But the skyscraper large fact that they f-k-d us in favor of cutting down server chip -Istanbul core R&D they really did. They produce some Deneb core that consumes almost or even more than 50% of all that power (ACP) caused with enormous L3 cache thats nothing more than marketing hog .... Deneb==Nehalem marketing fables. and we see how great it should perform with just 2M of L3 cache or maybe 3M only and power consumption would be 100W instead 140W.
Cmon now. It's nowhere near 200W tdp
(I'm serious, intel lied so bad back then)
They couldnt lie too much cause power VRM circutry couldnt handle too much more than 130W in those days. Even p4D need special boards for that double precotts (smithhhyfields iirc) just to power up. And canceled Tejas should be a real power hog with 150W on idle 2.80GHz
Intel's CPUs only run so "warm" because of incorrect temperature readings from programs such as core temp which always never address the issue of the tjunction temps being 15 (or 25) or so degrees off the real readings, but yeah its slightly warm, but nothing to fret over (80*C? BS, the CPU can't even run at that temperature without shutting itself down). Secondly the stock cooler is pure CRAP.
Please dont be such a cry baby. And self explanatory rocket scientist in the same post.
Current CPUs are made on Silicon with all that Ge/Hf and so on. And yes pure silicon could easily run on 150°C Tj. But not the processing units. Most of old CPUs (P6,K7,P4-prescott) work well on 95°C and it wasn't some sweating sauna for them. Just other elements on mobo sufferd (like capacitors that were overheated by overburdened VRM and poorly cooled CPU)
Most modern GPUs nv7800->gtx280 works great @100C ntm all that new ATI rv670/rv770/rv790/rv740 that in most cases if power supply on card is properly designed could work 120°C for a few hours of FurMark stress test. Yep they'll consume alot but they wont fail while power circuitry can
And the best thing is that GPUs are based on pure silicon process that they call Bulk and not so fancy SiGe, streched-strained, with HighK gates, or just poor old SiO base.
i believe AMD is reaching the Thermal Barrier of the Current Arch, sort of what happened with the Athlon XP at 3200.
OMG. Unfortunatly they don't reach anynthing with current architecture. They reach their thermal envelope @140W and ~3.6GHz with old F3 revision on last Athlon FX core. Since then they just buying time and delaying real R&D in the desktop/workstation segment. And buying themselves a lot of time. But at least they stamping more and more cores with advanced processing for server cores like Istanbul. Not that helps us at all. But we get TWKR nuclear fusion hog. yupiiii. we really need to worship AMD golden bull now.
