New NVIDIA Fermi-Class Quadro Launches the Era of Computational Visualization

[CDdude55]

Could someone please benchmark a quadro against it's desktop equivalent in gaming with the appropriate drivers (performance I think?).

I don't think anyone can actually afford one to do that.

 

[(FIH) The Don]

we could ask teh mighty W1zz, he should be able to get a card to test from nvidia

 

[Taskforce]

Just read a couple lines of this article near the bottom:

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/video/display/20070502085641.html

Besides, these are NOT consumer graphics cards. They are meant for workstations and have specialized drivers that make them good at what they are intended to do, and crap at gaming.

I remember see those prices too :shadedshu what a shame, but no i meant way back, that was still in the GW Bush era when things were starting to crumble, talking back in the good old days like >04. (before DX10)

 

[Pickles24]

If you had an EVGA Classified SR-2 with twin Xeon 5600's, 48g of memory and one of these cards.. You could set it up with Autodesk Smoke, Flame, Flint, Inferno.. it even comes with it's own Red Hat distro. You could argue that you have one of the badest composting machines on the planet. That's big boy effect houses..

 

[mdsx1950]

Could someone please benchmark a quadro against it's desktop equivalent in gaming with the appropriate drivers (performance I think?). It's been far too long since we've seen a real comparison like, but there's been evidence here and there that the gaming performance gap between the two has closed quite a bit. Probably to make it easier on developers wanting to work and test quickly on the same rig. I figure it should be done both at stock, and then with the consumer card clocked down to match the workstation card to see the clock for clock difference.

+1
I would love to see a benchmark like that.

 

[btarunr]

Really, i don't remember Quadros costing 14k, nor do i remember high-end graphics card costing over 500 bucks on release.

That's because there was no Quadro Plex back then. Quadro Plex is not a graphics card, it's a system (graphics server). There were plenty of graphics cards (even back in the early '80s) that went for over $500 on release. Maybe you're new to the computer hardware scene.

 

[pr0n Inspector]

High-margin market is high-margin.

 

[SluggyJ]

Hothardware have benched and reviewed the 5000 and 6000 and can be found here... I would love to see how the Plex 7000 does

 

[mdsx1950]

Hothardware have benched and reviewed the 5000 and 6000 and can be found here... I would love to see how the Plex 7000 does

I wish they put some game benchmarks. But anyways thanks for the link.

 

[Cheeseball]

These things can probably fold like a bat out of hell.

 

[btarunr]

These things can probably fold like a bat out of hell.

F@H CUDA is not video memory intensive. So these cards will in turn be slower than GeForce cards (since they're clocked lower).

 

[KainXS]

that hothardware review is the old one before amd updated their firepro drivers right

A day before the launch of this review, ATI released a new workstation driver which promised to significantly improve performance in several key applications, specifically those used in the new SPECviewperf 11 testing suite. Although we already finished up all the testing, created graphs, and came to our conclusions based on that data, we felt it would be worth the effort to re-test the FirePro cards to see how much of a difference the new driver would make while providing you with the most up to date information possible. In short, it made a significant difference in both Lightwave 3D and SolidWorks. Previously, the Quadro cards showed the best performance in those two tests, but after the ATI driver update, the FirePro models leapfrogged their scores.

based on the shader counts these quadro's are based on the old gpu's, not the new superscalar gpu's right.

 

[mdsx1950]

After reading the HotHardware review, i wasn't so impressed with the Quadros. I don't think it deserves such a big price tag.

 

[Taskforce]

That's because there was no Quadro Plex back then. Quadro Plex is not a graphics card, it's a system (graphics server). There were plenty of graphics cards (even back in the early '80s) that went for over $500 on release. Maybe you're new to the computer hardware scene.

Yes i know Quadro isn't aimed at your average Consumers and yes they had something similar back then with the same purpose obviously not called Quadro Plex.
"early 80's" seriously? back then you wouldn't call people who bought graphics cards average consumers, graphics card segment really took off when DOOM came about in 1993. However lets not time travel to the 80's, what I'm saying there was a time when we had a "sweet spot" if you will, when computer hardware were reasonably priced and not overpriced as they're now.

No I've been dealing with computers since i was a toddler.

 

[newtekie1]

Really, i don't remember Quadros costing 14k, nor do i remember high-end graphics card costing over 500 bucks on release.

The original Quadro Plex started at $10,000.

And if you go way back to the early days of the video card reviews here you'll find:

X850XT@$415

7900GTX@$500

7950GX2@$550

Going further back, I paid $500 for my 9800Pro, and $400 for my 9700Pro before that.

The high end graphics market has always been in that $400-600 range, and overpriced. And even today there are wonderful sweet spots that reasonably price.

 

[mdsx1950]

7950GX2@$550
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143W power draw is nothing to take lightly

Thats funny considering nowaday midrange GPUs take that much and are considered as non-power hungry cards.

 

[1freedude]

part of the price tag includes superior customer support, as in talk to a nVidia engineer support.

most of the people using these cards aren't computer wizards, they draw and edit "stuff."

 

[Bjorn_Of_Iceland]

Quadro Plex 7000, with 12 GB (total) of memory and 896 CUDA cores...

so basically a dual 470?

 

[Taskforce]

Video cards depreciate so fast.

 

[newtekie1]

Quadro Plex 7000, with 12 GB (total) of memory and 896 CUDA cores...

so basically a dual 470?

Dual Quadro 6000 actually, which does use the same core as the 470 w/ 448 "CUDA Cores", but it has 6GB of memory.

Also, I seem to remember seeing it mentioned that these cards have hardware ECC enabled, while the desktop parts do not. This slows them down even further, but makes them more accurate and reliable for data processing and rendering, it also means a certain amount of the memory on the board is actually used for the parity. So if it is 6GB usable, I think each card might actually have something like 7.5GB physical memory on the board.

 

[AccessCode]

How many digits of Pi per second can this thing calculate???

 

[Laurijan]

Is the GFX memory duplicated in the RAM leaving you with up to 6Gb (or 12Gb) less RAM for apps?

 

[kaneda]

Is the GFX memory duplicated in the RAM leaving you with up to 6Gb (or 12Gb) less RAM for apps?

These are not for DX9 appz.

People need to stop asking for game reviews too, its boring and happens every time workstation cards are released(or news on them is released).

Workstation cards are based on the same core as commercial graphics cards, you pay a premium for specialized drivers and stability.The drivers are tailored to meet the requirements of professional applications to offer considerably better performance. Just think of regular graphics driver updates, you often get slight improvements in certain games? same thing, software(drivers) is updated and designed to work with these professional applications rather than games. They also tend to be more stable, choice components and the such to ensure people using these cards get the stability their work requires.

These cards are not for gaming, if you buy one for gaming you are a fool.


As for this PLEX. BLAH.
Unless you can turn it into a render node(s). that would be kinda cool, having X amount of dedicated GPU's for accelerated rendering/encoding.

 

[ToTTenTranz]

That Quadro 5000M is intriguing, to say the least.

320 isn't a multiple of 48, so this card definitely has a GF100.

Why use the GF100, if they already have the more power-eficient GF104 with them?
L2 Cache size? Memory bandwidth?

 

[kaneda]

That Quadro 5000M is intriguing, to say the least.

320 isn't a multiple of 48, so this card definitely has a GF100.

Why use the GF100, if they already have the more power-eficient GF104 with them?
L2 Cache size? Memory bandwidth?

Probably getting rid of stock/was already in production. etc.

something like that would be my guess.


companies do enjoy milking the market :/