Core i5-3570K Graphics 67% Faster Than Core i5-2500K, 36% Slower Than GeForce GT 240

[1c3d0g]

Awesome! Intel's Sandy Bridge IGP is great for HD (Blu-ray) videos. I encountered some stuttering even with a GeForce 520 when I played The Dark Knight in its full glory, but none with the HD3000. This was with Splash Pro EX, which gives lots of post-processing effects options (thus extremely GPU intensive) for videos. Hopefully Ivy Bridge will continue this great trend.

 

[hellrazor]

Yay my video card is compared to something!

 

[Crazykenny]

This is a Intel chip generation I am gonna skip in its entirety. No use upgrading to it from a 2600k and I dare say, its kinda a waste upgrading to it from a 1366 platfrom. Intel cut its own fingers by making such a solid, long-lasting chip

 

[faramir]

What confuses me is, why does AMD put the discrete video cards on the mainstream CPUs. Why don't they put GPUs on the enthusiast range too. Like surely they could put a 6850 on a Bulldozer or Phenom II die if they wanted?

Serious TDP contraints. You cannot just take 125W CPU and 200+W GPU, glue them together and expect the combination to run in home PCs. In my opinion 100W is maximum reassonable TDP for the CPU/APU (this leaves enough room for overclockers) and 65W or thereabouts should be the target for non-enthusiast market (like my existing Core2 duo, which when undervolted runs under 50 degrees C under load, hence no annoying jet engine noises from the heatsink fan).

 

[hardcore_gamer]

Most people who buy these CPUs wont use the integrated graphics. What a waste of die area.

 

[laszlo]

Most people who buy these CPUs wont use the integrated graphics. What a waste of die area.

No waste of die as i saw;you forget OEM who build office pc's and sure for that use is more than enough

also don't forget that many home user don't play games;for surfing and Face-shot-off-Book u don't need discrete graphic cars

 

[Casecutter]

No waste of die as i saw;you forget OEM who build office pc's and sure for that use is more than enough

also don't forget that many home user don't play games;for surfing and Face-shot-off-Book u don't need discrete graphic cars

Not dis'n what you said, and while improvement is welcome, i5's aren't something most corporate office or home use folk shouldn’t be compelled to step up to the i5 level just to receive what's still barely acceptable graphics performance (this isn't about gaming), but the ability to truly multi-task which APU's prove can be done. People shouldn’t have to cease background tasks, just to watch the video from an Email.

The bigger question is what Intel is going to straddle entry i3 with… HD2000 still? That’s what this write-up couldn’t express; and why is that? Nice that i5 buyer gets a bone, but let’s face it that person will be looking for an upgrade almost from the day they take it home. At least if straddled with a decent OEM 350W, AMD will get a 7750 sale. If Intel can't give this to the i3 buyer it's truely wrothless news!

 

[Halk]

No waste of die as i saw;you forget OEM who build office pc's and sure for that use is more than enough

also don't forget that many home user don't play games;for surfing and Face-shot-off-Book u don't need discrete graphic cars

That's the thing... it's more than enough for office use, and not enough for gaming use.

Why bother with the upgrade if it's not going to be any benefit for either?

As far as a bang for buck, cheap as you can get gaming experience.. then the CPU is probably too much for the graphics on it.

All I can think of is that Intel are producing integrated graphics that are cutting back on them to the point where there's no reasonable gains.. so any less grunt in the graphics department doesn't reduce costs or thermals.

 

[mastrdrver]

Why are people dissing on better graphics performance? last time I checked better is good.

Because this is Intel and drivers, need I say more?

Besides that, these are not official and very little is known about the drivers used, actual game play, and settings used for the benchmark. This is like cheering for new nVidia stuff when all that comes out is a leak. Who knows how really good or bad it is when it comes to final silicone.

 

[Xiphos]

Dude You cant run the IGP and a Separate GPU at same time on that setup, either u game on a discreet GPU or you Game on the IGP cant use both at same time

bro, you heard of Lucid's Virtu? it lets you switch between IGP and a dedicated card on the fly. no need to reboot.

ok, now we know you can switch easily. here is what you do;
you game and record with your dedicated card. and then use the IGP while rendering your 360 degree triple kill clip in After Effects or Sony Vegas.

revolutionary idea huh? I know.

 

[ViperXTR]

yes lucid virtu, i use th HD2000 of my i3 to do some quicksync from time to time, also tried using it in media player classic as the default DXVA device (through virtu profile).

 

[1c3d0g]

...
The bigger question is what Intel is going to straddle entry i3 with… HD2000 still? ...

The HD2500. Which is a step up from HD2000 (8 EU's v.s. 6 EU's, although they're not directly comparable either, due to significant architectural differences between Ivy > Sandy).

 

[Casecutter]

The HD2500. Which is a step up from HD2000 (8 EU's v.s. 6 EU's, although they're not directly comparable either, due to significant architectural differences between Ivy > Sandy).

Be still my gentle heart... and how would CPU architectural improvements really improve graphic components?

Business machines are fine for HD2500, but home/personal users today should not be left with Intel's spare change. Basically, this means Intel aim is to have home computers buyers looking to the higher cost i5, lulled with the idea of improved graphic's power. Just to find they were sold the functionality more popular in 2008. More CPU power than most general home user could ever fancy, while below middling graphics ability. AMD should have no problem marketing the APU’s balanced approach and multi-task abilities this next round.