• Welcome to TechPowerUp Forums, Guest! Please check out our forum guidelines for info related to our community.

Leading German Retailer Sees AMD Ryzen Outsell Intel Core Processors

btarunr

Editor & Senior Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Oct 9, 2007
Messages
47,217 (7.55/day)
Location
Hyderabad, India
System Name RBMK-1000
Processor AMD Ryzen 7 5700G
Motherboard ASUS ROG Strix B450-E Gaming
Cooling DeepCool Gammax L240 V2
Memory 2x 8GB G.Skill Sniper X
Video Card(s) Palit GeForce RTX 2080 SUPER GameRock
Storage Western Digital Black NVMe 512GB
Display(s) BenQ 1440p 60 Hz 27-inch
Case Corsair Carbide 100R
Audio Device(s) ASUS SupremeFX S1220A
Power Supply Cooler Master MWE Gold 650W
Mouse ASUS ROG Strix Impact
Keyboard Gamdias Hermes E2
Software Windows 11 Pro
Processor sales numbers of leading German retailer Mindfactory.de show AMD Ryzen processors to be outselling Intel processors for the first time in over a decade. German and EU DIY PC buyers seem to have developed a taste for AMD Ryzen processors, which is reflecting in Mindfactory's sales figures. Since March 2017, when AMD launched its Ryzen 7 series, AMD processor sales have seen a steady growth from 28% (vs. 72% of Intel), to a stunning 56% by the end of August 2017. Mindfactory's sales is a test case of AMD's growth in the DIY processor market, which forced Intel to rush in its Core X family, and its 8th generation Core processor family, which could be out in Q3-2017.

Ryzen 5 1600 appears to be the most popular AMD choice among Mindfactory's customers, as the 6-core/12-thread processor strikes a price-performance sweet-spot at 198€. The chip is outselling the similarly-priced Core i5-7500 by two times, and the i5-7600K by three times. The 8-core/16-thread Ryzen 7 1700 is the second most popular AMD Ryzen part, priced at 288€. From the Intel camp, the Core i7-7700K still commands the single biggest chunk of Mindfactory's CPU sales. As expected, the Ryzen 7 1700X outsells the 1800X by five times. Also, the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X is outselling the Core i9-7900X by over three times. Find more interesting data in the beautifully drawn graphs by Redditor "Type-21."



View at TechPowerUp Main Site
 

Durvelle27

Moderator
Staff member
Joined
Jul 10, 2012
Messages
6,788 (1.50/day)
Location
Memphis, TN
System Name Black Prometheus
Processor |AMD Ryzen 7 1700
Motherboard ASRock B550M Pro4|MSI X370 Gaming PLUS
Cooling Thermalright PA120 SE | AMD Stock Cooler
Memory G.Skill 64GB(2x32GB) 3200MHz | 32GB(4x8GB) DDR4
Video Card(s) ASUS DirectCU II R9 290 4GB
Storage Sandisk X300 512GB + WD Black 6TB+WD Black 6TB
Display(s) LG Nanocell85 49" 4K 120Hz + ACER AOPEN 34" 3440x1440 144Hz
Case DeepCool Matrexx 55 V3 w/ 6x120mm Intake + 3x120mm Exhaust
Audio Device(s) LG Dolby Atmos 5.1
Power Supply Corsair RMX850 Fully Modular| EVGA 750W G2
Mouse Logitech Trackman
Keyboard Logitech K350
Software Windows 10 EDU x64
That's really great for AMD. And it's amazing just to see them rise up and progress
 

Rensiur

New Member
Joined
Sep 4, 2017
Messages
4 (0.00/day)
That's really great for AMD. And it's amazing just to see them rise up and progress

Indeed, it shows the appreciation and enthusiasm of system builders with regards to the portofolio that AMD offers. I am happy to see some competition on the market, only Intel became boring.
 
Joined
Oct 2, 2004
Messages
13,791 (1.88/day)
That's great to hear. We also can't deny AMD's excellent products. Which is why they are selling so well. If only their graphics division had such success as well. It would be great for AMD and also for consumers if that was actually happening. I really hope Ryzen's future versions will provide good competition to continue this trend and that Navi will get AMD's graphic division back on track. If that happens, PC segment will have a very bright future.
 
Joined
Sep 10, 2016
Messages
820 (0.27/day)
Location
Riverwood, Skyrim
System Name Storm Wrought | Blackwood (HTPC)
Processor AMD Ryzen 9 5900x @stock | i7 2600k
Motherboard Gigabyte X570 Aorus Pro WIFI m-ITX | Some POS gigabyte board
Cooling Deepcool AK620, BQ shadow wings 3 High Spd, stock 180mm |BQ Shadow rock LP + 4x120mm Noctua redux
Memory G.Skill Ripjaws V 2x32GB 4000MHz | 2x4GB 2000MHz @1866
Video Card(s) Powercolor RX 6800XT Red Dragon | PNY a2000 6GB
Storage SX8200 Pro 1TB, 1TB KC3000, 850EVO 500GB, 2+8TB Seagate, LG Blu-ray | 120GB Sandisk SSD, 4TB WD red
Display(s) Samsung UJ590UDE 32" UHD monitor | LG CS 55" OLED
Case Silverstone TJ08B-E | Custom built wooden case (Aus native timbers)
Audio Device(s) Onboard, Sennheiser HD 599 cans / Logitech z163's | Edifier S2000 MKIII via toslink
Power Supply Corsair HX 750 | Corsair SF 450
Mouse Microsoft Pro Intellimouse| Some logitech one
Keyboard GMMK w/ Zelio V2 62g (78g for spacebar) tactile switches & Glorious black keycaps| Some logitech one
VR HMD HTC Vive
Software Win 10 Edu | Ubuntu 22.04
Benchmark Scores Look in the various benchmark threads
Excellent news for AMD really.

Also the pricing graphs for intel and AMD is very telling, with AMD basically flat and intel dropping, in the case of the i7 6950x, dropping by almost 400 euros
 
Joined
Apr 30, 2011
Messages
2,702 (0.55/day)
Location
Greece
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600@80W
Motherboard MSI B550 Tomahawk
Cooling ZALMAN CNPS9X OPTIMA
Memory 2*8GB PATRIOT PVS416G400C9K@3733MT_C16
Video Card(s) Sapphire Radeon RX 6750 XT Pulse 12GB
Storage Sandisk SSD 128GB, Kingston A2000 NVMe 1TB, Samsung F1 1TB, WD Black 10TB
Display(s) AOC 27G2U/BK IPS 144Hz
Case SHARKOON M25-W 7.1 BLACK
Audio Device(s) Realtek 7.1 onboard
Power Supply Seasonic Core GC 500W
Mouse Sharkoon SHARK Force Black
Keyboard Trust GXT280
Software Win 7 Ultimate 64bit/Win 10 pro 64bit/Manjaro Linux
R7 1600 is the best cpu from the vfm aspect for any pc enthusiast for a VERY long time. All the recent ones were overpriced due to the lack of competition. 7700K is selling just due to gaming performance atm. It will be irrelevant when i7 get 6 cores soon. R7 1600 will remain the best selling though until Ryzen gen 2 imho. Being unlocked is AMD's great gift to us also.

And competition helps customers VERY MUCH!
 
Joined
Aug 18, 2017
Messages
344 (0.13/day)
Still, there aren't many motherboards to choose from.
It will probably take years to match the amount of 1151 motherboards currently available on market.
Right now for AM4 we don't have a single PLX motherboard for those who want.
No beefy mATX that would handle real OC on 8core.
Just 3 (excluding duplicates) ITX motherboards.
 
Joined
Feb 5, 2016
Messages
171 (0.05/day)
Location
Sthlm
System Name Vamos
Processor Ryzen 5 3600
Motherboard Gigabyte B450 I Aorus Pro WiFi
Cooling Dark Rock Slim
Memory 2x8GB XPG 3600MHz
Video Card(s) RX 5700 XT PowerColor
Storage WD SN550 1TB, Seagate 2TB HDD
Display(s) AOC CQ32G1
Case Jonsbo V8
Audio Device(s) Logitech G633, Presonus E3.5
Power Supply Fractal Design Ion SFX-L 650W Gold
Mouse Logitech G502
Keyboard Logitech G513 Carbon
Software Win 10 Home
Well, people really waited for benchmarks judging by that overall decline in sales april-june :D
 
Joined
Jan 25, 2011
Messages
531 (0.11/day)
Location
Inside a mini ITX
System Name ITX Desktop
Processor Core i7 9700K
Motherboard Gigabyte Aorus Pro WiFi Z390
Cooling Arctic esports 34 duo.
Memory Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB 3000MHz
Video Card(s) Gigabyte GeForce RTX 2070 Gaming OC White PRO
Storage Samsung 970 EVO Plus | Intel SSD 660p
Case NZXT H200
Power Supply Corsair CX Series 750 Watt
Now they need to pull off another Ryzen in the GPU market. A good gaming card with crippled mining performance.
 
Joined
Feb 11, 2009
Messages
5,545 (0.96/day)
System Name Cyberline
Processor Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k
Motherboard Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4
Cooling Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop
Memory Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz
Video Card(s) AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT
Storage Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD
Display(s) Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF
Case antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case
Audio Device(s) Focusrite 2i4 (USB)
Power Supply Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum
Mouse Elecom EX-G
Keyboard Rapoo V700
Software Windows 10 Pro 64bit
as it should be really, AMD delivered great results, im hoping to be a proud owner of a Ryzen cpu soon myself
 
Joined
Aug 27, 2011
Messages
998 (0.21/day)
Processor Intel core i9 13900ks sp117 direct die
Motherboard Asus Maximus Apex Z790
Cooling Custom loop 3*360 45mm thick+ 3 x mo-ra3 420 +Dual D5 pump and dual ddc pump
Memory 2x24gb Gskill 8800c38
Video Card(s) Asus RTX 4090 Strix
Storage 2 tb crucial t700, raid 0 samsung 970 pro 2tb
Display(s) Sammsung G7 32”
Case Dynamic XL
Audio Device(s) Creative Omni 5.1 usb sound card
Power Supply Corsair AX1600i
Mouse Model O-
Keyboard Hyper X Alloy Origin Core
and when Ryzen helps system mine faster.
 

iO

Joined
Jul 18, 2012
Messages
529 (0.12/day)
Location
Germany
Processor R7 5700x
Motherboard MSI B450i Gaming
Cooling Accelero Mono CPU Edition
Memory 16 GB VLP
Video Card(s) AMD RX 6700 XT Accelero Mono
Storage P34A80 512GB
Display(s) LG 27UM67 UHD
Case none
Power Supply Fractal Ion 650 SFX
Great news but it probably only shows that people stopped buying Intels old stuff as Coffeelake is just around the corner...
 
Joined
Feb 1, 2012
Messages
56 (0.01/day)
I'm happy Intel has competition once again. Intel's pricing may or may not be significantly affected, but competition makes for better products overall.
 
Joined
Jan 15, 2016
Messages
24 (0.01/day)
Nice for AMD but really Mindfactory?
Is Mindfactory really usable as an appropriate source?

I mean they are the negative example for customer happiness as far as I've been handled and people I know.
So the antithesis to everything that is good handled by Amazon and likes.

Just imaging my latest happy experience with them by buying two RX Vega 56 for 406€ - nope never got it. They have first finish first serve. So Autobots FTW1!1!!!
 
Joined
Apr 30, 2011
Messages
2,702 (0.55/day)
Location
Greece
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600@80W
Motherboard MSI B550 Tomahawk
Cooling ZALMAN CNPS9X OPTIMA
Memory 2*8GB PATRIOT PVS416G400C9K@3733MT_C16
Video Card(s) Sapphire Radeon RX 6750 XT Pulse 12GB
Storage Sandisk SSD 128GB, Kingston A2000 NVMe 1TB, Samsung F1 1TB, WD Black 10TB
Display(s) AOC 27G2U/BK IPS 144Hz
Case SHARKOON M25-W 7.1 BLACK
Audio Device(s) Realtek 7.1 onboard
Power Supply Seasonic Core GC 500W
Mouse Sharkoon SHARK Force Black
Keyboard Trust GXT280
Software Win 7 Ultimate 64bit/Win 10 pro 64bit/Manjaro Linux
Nice for AMD but really Mindfactory?
Is Mindfactory really usable as an appropriate source?

I mean they are the negative example for customer happiness as far as I've been handled and people I know.
So the antithesis to everything that is good handled by Amazon and likes.

Just imaging my latest happy experience with them by buying two RX Vega 56 for 406€ - nope never got it. They have first finish first serve. So Autobots FTW1!1!!!

Now AMD seems to sell more CPUs than Intel and that's the ONLY thing this article discuss. Not customer service. You are totally out of topic OR you just hurt that your favorite brand stopped selling well their overpriced and stagnant (in their tech for 5 years now apart from the manufacturing process) products?
 
Joined
Jan 15, 2016
Messages
24 (0.01/day)
Now AMD seems to sell more CPUs than Intel and that's the ONLY thing this article discuss. Not customer service. You are totally out of topic OR you just hurt that your favorite brand stopped selling well their overpriced and stagnant (in their tech for 5 years now apart from the manufacturing process) products?
Still can't decide if you only troll or if there is real meeing. In my case my first sentence against articles first sentence are valid reason for doubt.:
"Processor sales numbers of leading German retailer Mindfactory.de"

It is relevante for the article if the single source is trustable and if it is relevant to access other sources too. I think in the past a french company was the one quoted by tpu?

To feed the troll part: I use even via x86 processors and I have no good hair to split with all current manufacturer down to the shitty USB root hubs. Only a fraction get, appreciation, for a well done Design from me. :cool: And yep hating mindfactury for that prank and all others responsible is my troll part. If you are not able to differenciate "Sorry for you" :toast:, try to ignore that habit thanks.
 
Joined
Mar 16, 2017
Messages
235 (0.08/day)
Location
behind you
Processor Threadripper 1950X
Motherboard ASRock X399 Professional Gaming
Cooling IceGiant ProSiphon Elite
Memory 48GB DDR4 2934MHz
Video Card(s) MSI GTX 1080
Storage 4TB Crucial P3 Plus NVMe, 1TB Samsung 980 NVMe, 1TB Inland NVMe, 2TB Western Digital HDD
Display(s) 2x 4K60
Power Supply Cooler Master Silent Pro M (1000W)
Mouse Corsair Ironclaw Wireless
Keyboard Corsair K70 MK.2
VR HMD HTC Vive Pro
Software Windows 10, QubesOS
Still can't decide if you only troll or if there is real meeing.

Do you see that guy's username? Look below it. See those stars? Let's keep looking. Do see those numbers '729' and '653'. Yeah I don't think he's a troll.

Now, do you see your username...

:p:p:p

In all seriousness he is right. Here in the US we have Best Buy and while lots of people buy stuff from them you don't want to go to them if you need a new computer. Still I'd consider them a good metric.
 
Joined
Sep 15, 2011
Messages
6,715 (1.39/day)
Processor Intel® Core™ i7-13700K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX
Cooling Noctua NH-D15
Memory 32GB(2x16) DDR5@6600MHz G-Skill Trident Z5
Video Card(s) ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 AMP Holo
Storage 2TB SK Platinum P41 SSD + 4TB SanDisk Ultra SSD + 500GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD
Display(s) Acer Predator X34 3440x1440@100Hz G-Sync
Case NZXT PHANTOM410-BK
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIe
Power Supply Corsair 850W
Mouse Logitech Hero G502 SE
Software Windows 11 Pro - 64bit
Benchmark Scores 30FPS in NFS:Rivals

eidairaman1

The Exiled Airman
Joined
Jul 2, 2007
Messages
42,055 (6.62/day)
Location
Republic of Texas (True Patriot)
System Name PCGOD
Processor AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz
Motherboard Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios
Cooling Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED
Memory 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V)
Video Card(s) AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X
Storage Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB
Display(s) NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter)
Case AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition
Audio Device(s) Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR
Power Supply Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3)
Mouse Roccat Kone XTD
Keyboard Roccat Ryos MK Pro
Software Windows 7 Pro 64
Do you see that guy's username? Look below it. See those stars? Let's keep looking. Do see those numbers '729' and '653'. Yeah I don't think he's a troll.

Now, do you see your username...

:p:p:p

In all seriousness he is right. Here in the US we have Best Buy and while lots of people buy stuff from them you don't want to go to them if you need a new computer. Still I'd consider them a good metric.

Atleast with brick and mortar, you have a better chance of getting a part, BB sells typically Visiontek Parts which to me are Akin to PNY (No frills parts, just plug n play)
 
Joined
Apr 30, 2011
Messages
2,702 (0.55/day)
Location
Greece
Processor AMD Ryzen 5 5600@80W
Motherboard MSI B550 Tomahawk
Cooling ZALMAN CNPS9X OPTIMA
Memory 2*8GB PATRIOT PVS416G400C9K@3733MT_C16
Video Card(s) Sapphire Radeon RX 6750 XT Pulse 12GB
Storage Sandisk SSD 128GB, Kingston A2000 NVMe 1TB, Samsung F1 1TB, WD Black 10TB
Display(s) AOC 27G2U/BK IPS 144Hz
Case SHARKOON M25-W 7.1 BLACK
Audio Device(s) Realtek 7.1 onboard
Power Supply Seasonic Core GC 500W
Mouse Sharkoon SHARK Force Black
Keyboard Trust GXT280
Software Win 7 Ultimate 64bit/Win 10 pro 64bit/Manjaro Linux
Still can't decide if you only troll or if there is real meeing. In my case my first sentence against articles first sentence are valid reason for doubt.:
"Processor sales numbers of leading German retailer Mindfactory.de"

It is relevante for the article if the single source is trustable and if it is relevant to access other sources too. I think in the past a french company was the one quoted by tpu?

To feed the troll part: I use even via x86 processors and I have no good hair to split with all current manufacturer down to the shitty USB root hubs. Only a fraction get, appreciation, for a well done Design from me. :cool: And yep hating mindfactury for that prank and all others responsible is my troll part. If you are not able to differenciate "Sorry for you" :toast:, try to ignore that habit thanks.

Nice for you to clear the misunderstanding sir. So, you hate the shop from which the stats were derived. Good to know, but it is still irrelevant and out of topic. Maybe you should just post a small sentence in which you should focus just on the title's hyperbole having the word "leading" then. :toast: Other than that, its stats give us something important for the big change in CPU market since Ryzen series were released.
 
Joined
Sep 17, 2014
Messages
22,417 (6.03/day)
Location
The Washing Machine
Processor 7800X3D
Motherboard MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling Thermalright Peerless Assassin
Memory 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s) ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s) Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s) Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
Software W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores Over 9000
Joined
Feb 19, 2006
Messages
6,270 (0.92/day)
Location
New York
Processor INTEL CORE I9-9900K @ 5Ghz all core 4.7Ghz Cache @1.305 volts
Motherboard ASUS PRIME Z390-P ATX
Cooling CORSAIR HYDRO H150I PRO RGB 360MM 6x120mm fans push pull
Memory CRUCIAL BALLISTIX 3000Mhz 4x8 32gb @ 4000Mhz
Video Card(s) EVGA GEFORECE RTX 2080 SUPER XC HYBRID GAMING
Storage ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro 1TB 3D NAND NVMe,Intel 660p 1TB m.2 ,1TB WD Blue 3D NAND,500GB WD Blue 3D NAND,
Display(s) 50" Sharp Roku TV 8ms responce time and Philips 75Hz 328E9QJAB 32" curved
Case BLACK LIAN LI O11 DYNAMIC XL FULL-TOWER GAMING CASE,
Power Supply 1600 Watt
Software Windows 10
Nice. it is like the return of socket 754 days.....dang.
 
Joined
Sep 15, 2011
Messages
6,715 (1.39/day)
Processor Intel® Core™ i7-13700K
Motherboard Gigabyte Z790 Aorus Elite AX
Cooling Noctua NH-D15
Memory 32GB(2x16) DDR5@6600MHz G-Skill Trident Z5
Video Card(s) ZOTAC GAMING GeForce RTX 3080 AMP Holo
Storage 2TB SK Platinum P41 SSD + 4TB SanDisk Ultra SSD + 500GB Samsung 840 EVO SSD
Display(s) Acer Predator X34 3440x1440@100Hz G-Sync
Case NZXT PHANTOM410-BK
Audio Device(s) Creative X-Fi Titanium PCIe
Power Supply Corsair 850W
Mouse Logitech Hero G502 SE
Software Windows 11 Pro - 64bit
Benchmark Scores 30FPS in NFS:Rivals
Isnt that the year the world finally ends? For real this time?
Aye. AMD will pull another HD5870, and catch nGreedia by surprise. :D ;)
 

Frick

Fishfaced Nincompoop
Joined
Feb 27, 2006
Messages
19,531 (2.86/day)
Location
Piteå
System Name White DJ in Detroit
Processor Ryzen 5 5600
Motherboard Asrock B450M-HDV
Cooling Be Quiet! Pure Rock 2
Memory 2 x 16GB Kingston Fury 3400mhz
Video Card(s) XFX 6950XT Speedster MERC 319
Storage Kingston A400 240GB | WD Black SN750 2TB |WD Blue 1TB x 2 | Toshiba P300 2TB | Seagate Expansion 8TB
Display(s) Samsung U32J590U 4K + BenQ GL2450HT 1080p
Case Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s) Line6 UX1 + Sony MDR-10RC, Nektar SE61 keyboard
Power Supply Corsair RM850x v3
Mouse Logitech G602
Keyboard Cherry MX Board 1.0 TKL Brown
Software Windows 10 Pro
Benchmark Scores Rimworld 4K ready!
Nice. it is like the return of socket 754 days.....dang.

... possibly, but the real star of that show was s939 CPUs. If Zen2 is to Zen what Winchester was to Clawhammer but with better overclocking ... vOv.
 
Top