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Just because discrimination is systemic and largely ingrained into society in such a way as to make it nigh-on invisible doesn't mean it doesn't happen, or that protesting it is somehow bad. You seem to be arguing that "public perceptions" somehow can't be bad, which I'd like to have you make sense of for me. Also, saying we "voluntarily buy into" values and beliefs that we're exposed to from a very early age is a rather naive stance.At what point is there concrete, actual discrimination occurring? Your argument seems to be against public perceptions, which women (and men) voluntarily buy into.
And how, exactly, do you define if you're "born a man" or a woman? Chromosomes? That would be interesting, 'cause chromosomal tests are never done on new-born babies. They are assigned a gender by sight by the attending doctor. You'd also be surprised by the amount of newborns subjected to "gender-confirming" surgery - essentially genital mutilation - both historically and today. As for the chromosomal definition, you should look into the variability of chromosomes, such as XXY males. The point being: biology is not - ever - a straight-forward, black-and-white thing. Acknowledging that is a rather fundamental requirement to moving beyond oversimplified, biologically deterministic views on sex and gender.People with birth defects, genetic disorders are one thing... if you're born a man you're a man, if you're born a woman you're a woman. You can be an effeminate man or a masculine woman, you can be gay, you can't change what you are.
...and the people are calling those speaking up for increased diversity snowflakes? Wow. Has your opinion been censored? How? When? And what facts are you not allowed to present?I find it funny how expressing opinions is generally not allowed--unless you're a minority. Also, expressing facts is extremely not allowed--no matter what.
I have no idea. Those groups seem to go through terminology like they go through underwear. I'm all for everybody's rights to do/be/feel whatever they want (so long as it doesn't step on someone else's, of course) but I don't even know what half of these words mean anymore.
While the philosophical debates on how gender is constructed, portrayed and performed are indeed extremely complex (as is fitting for such a fundamental aspect of our cultures), this is actually quite simple. "Binary gender" is the belief that there are two, and only two possible genders a person can have. Most of society is and has historically been organized around this (although there are quite a few notable historical departures from this). It's usually legitimized through biology, but when looking at actual facts, that's a very, very shaky basis - especially as the strict social limitations on how you can look, act, dress and so on don't have any link to biological sex whatsoever, and are ultimately completely arbitrary. Non-binary thus simply means someone who doesn't feel like they fit within either of these two definitions, and thus want to define for themselves how they want to look, act and portray themselves - regardless of societal expectations of them being "male" or "female". Given how limiting the binary gender system is to the freedom of all involved (this system exposes men to just as much internal justice as women, after all, and the gender policing of men is generally violent and hateful), I see this as a very good development towards a more free society.I think non-binary means non-conformist but non-conformist in regards to what?
I can't be bothered to repeat myself, so:Ignoring the copius amounts of ignorance and bullshit in that statement, and lets pretend the "industry" only exists in the western hemisphere and western europe, the reason probably is the gross percentage of people applying themselves to get to the level to compete at those levels are straight white men.
... And how much of that can be attributed to the industry and related fields of study systematically excluding women for decades? Computer science was nearly all-female in the early days, until men realized software was as interesting as hardware (instead of boring "secretarial work" which it had been seen as until then), shut them out of schools and jobs (again: hiring bias is very real, and was far worse 20-30+ years ago, but even today men tend to overwhelmingly hire men, while hiring done by women is statistically far more evenly distributed), and started a decades-long push to give programming a masculine image. Interest isn't something you're born with, and the current demographic distribution among programmers isn't some spontaneous, "natural" happening. Nor is it "planned" in the sense that one person or a single group of people conspired to make it happen, but there has been exerted considerable effort and power by many, many people over these past decades towards promoting computer science and programming as a "male" activity.
Ah, I do love when people present oversimplified arguments. First off: to make this realistic, you'd have to say that the people currently making only vanilla or chocolate cakes control the vast majority of access to baking ingredients and investment/funding to start bakeries. Secondly, you're entirely ignoring the fact that actual, clear-cut, obvious, not-up-for-discussion discrimination has been rampant in this industry for years and years. This includes education, where people are taught how to ... bake. But this is classic conservative argumentation, entirely ignoring that people have different starting points in life and that inherent systematic bias in society gives some people preferential treatment simply because they were born into the right group. Attempting to level the playing field for those starting at a severe disadvantage does not in any way harm those who start at an advantage. Being treated as equals is not harm; losing privilege is not harm - it's fair. More to the point, if not being given preferential treatment is harmful, then you're actively admitting that anyone not a white, straight male has been systematically harmed up until now. Which is kind of the whole point?Let me explain this in terms cake. If the only cakes available are Vanila, or Chocolate and someone doesn't enjoy them because they prefer some purple whatever, nondescript-flavored cake, that person has no right to complain or protest they can go bake their own cake. But ofc ppl choose to complain because that is much easier than working toward actual constructive change.
Wait, did I say that there were no female protagonists? Oh, sorry, that was a straw man argument, sorry for not letting that one pass. Stop accusing me of saying things I haven't said.Arguing against myself. And then you go and literally go and argue against yourself...
a) There are tons of highly iconic female characters in games and movies, but as we all know it, you all conveniently insist on ignoring them to fit your narrative.
Yeah, I agree, imagination and oppositional readings are both good and necessary when interacting with media. However, is it fair or natural that >50% of the population should (nearly) always be forced into this to see themselves represented in the media they love?b) Who gives a shit if they are openly gay non binary hermaphrodites, just imagine it yourself that they are. How the hell I played through Alien:Isolation imagining I'm Amanda Ripley. While being a dude. Mind blowing, right?
Wait, so ever since ... say, 1997, there's been an even distribution of genders in game characters? 'Cause that's about the time when those technical limitations were gone for good. As for your argument about who is shot, I agree with you to a certain extent (at least as long as the women are portrayed as equally capable of fighting back as the men). You should look into the skin colors of in-game enemies, though. "Surprisingly" (yeah, not really), there's a massive disparity between the skin colors of "heroes" and "villains" through games history. I'm not "fine" with games portraying senseless violence of any kind (not least because those games tend to be incredibly boring and infantilizing towards the player while promoting dubious ideologies and ideas), and the systematic portrayal of men as ultra-violent macho idiots is deeply problematic.c) 90% of characters used to be male white characters because that was the largest audience in the beginning and because of technical limitations. If you look games from the past, literally all enemies were male and they looked exactly like the protagonist himself. Guess what, technology. They couldn't afford to make 50 different models and paint them with 50 different textures each. It's also ironic when diversity folks want more female characters as NPC's and then cry misogyny when you shoot them. But are fine when we mow down thousands of male characters. It's just so ironic and funny it makes me roll on the ground and laugh like a madman.
I did understand that you were calling yourself a "dirty nerd", but I didn't address that at all, as I didn't really see it as important. For the rest of your post: I'm sorry that you have to live in a society where your passion is seen as less legitimate than those of other people. It seems that culture has a ways to go in terms of appreciation of art and media.d) "used to be reserved for the dirty nerds coz it was too childish, but now everyone wants to have a pie" And here is the usual case of people yet again not understanding the context of words where I literally called myself " dirty nerd"... No one is stealing my toys, I was stating that gaming was considered as something negative in the past and quite frankly, in my country still is. If you say you're a gamer in your 30's they'll consider you childish. And that wasn't any different when I was 15 or 20... We just had our hobby and we had fun in it not really giving two fucks about anything other than having fun and doing crazy shit. And now the Diversity Squad arrived and wants their BS shoved in with full force. That was the statement I made. But you just proved me right by arguing with yourself and stating like someone is stealing my toys. It's not "stealing my games" as much as it's "ruining the games" diversity garbage is screwing up the games because people who demand diversity have no concept of designing games. They just shove in some gay shit totally out of context and call it a day. Like in Mass Effect Andromeda where character first introduces itself and then in the same sentence states it's gay. Do you ever introduce yourself to someone with first sentence about your sexual orientation? Give me a break. And that's just the most obvious example. They are just obsessed with shoving their diversity nonsense in for the sake of having it in. God forbid someone would actually take great care to craft a complex story that potentially includes that. No, just throw it in there flat on the face. Only thing selfish is expecting quality from games and they are trading it for diversity points. A checklist of what all skin colors, sexual orientations and 700 trillion genders they can tick off.
But to your claims of people "ruining your games" because "people who demand diversity have no concept of designing games", well, again, that's demonstrably not true. It's actually very funny that you use a Mass Effect game as an example, given that that series has always had gay or non-straight characters. That the last chapter was rather poorly written doesn't change that, but makes it entirely unusable for the argument you want to use it for. Do you have any other examples? Also, have you considered that you might have some bias towards this, making you see this as less integrated into the gameworld or story than it actually is? I'm not saying this is the case, but it would be a good thing to look into nonetheless.
Hm. First off, can you show me an actual example of what you're saying? Because otherwise, you're just spouting conspiracy theories. Having diversity as one of the desired factors when hiring someone does not equate to passing over better-qualified straight white male candidates in the vast majority of cases. Of course, this is without getting into how bias makes men generally look more competent than women, gives them better opportunities to improve their resumes, and so on. Point being: correcting for systematic discrimination takes an effort, as it is a deep-seated and difficult-to-identify issue, with no clear or obvious fixes. Attempting to solve it does nobody a disservice. Besides, at least here in Norway, there has been quite a lot of effort put into diversifying the jobs you mention here too. Perhaps not trash collectors in specific, but this general type of "nasty dirty job".e) The hiring bias has come so far that companies now hire women for the sake of diversity and diversity quotas even if they had a far more qualified man applying for the position as well. Yay, great win for diversity, hiring people because vagina! Also, lets just entirely dismiss the fact that more men apply for mathematics and programming and as a result, more men will end up working in such positions. I just love it how no one ever demands 50% diversity quotas by filling in positions with women and non-binary snowflakes in the ranks of garbage collectors, sewer maintenance, electrical engineers working on high voltage power lines, dep earth miners, oil rig workers and construction site workers. Oh, but that's just inconvenient because they are all nasty dirty jobs and men can do them and no one gives a damn about diversity, but we'll save the nice clean air conditioned jobs for the womynz because yay, diversity everyone! It makes me vomit.
But that's enough of a wall of text for today. Sheesh.