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YouTube? I play Old School Rune Scape... LMFAO.
Many more details from videocardz.com. The main readon for the big increase in performance for the same compute power as the Vega 56 is the doubling on the ROPS vs the RX590. The cut RX5700 one will be almost 25% slower than the full one, almost tied to Vega 64 performance for 56% of its cores. Big change in IPC (instactions per core) indeed with Navi. Finally a gaming specific GPU to chase nVidia down. Maybe the big Navi will get to the top of the consumper GPUs in 2020? Let's see...
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | ASUS TUF x670e |
Cooling | EK AIO 360. Phantek T30 fans. |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill 6000Mhz |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 4090 |
Storage | WD m.2 |
Display(s) | LG C2 Evo OLED 42" |
Case | Lian Li PC 011 Dynamic Evo |
Audio Device(s) | Topping E70 DAC, SMSL SP200 Headphone Amp. |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti PRO 1000W |
Mouse | Razer Basilisk V3 Pro |
Keyboard | Tester84 |
Software | Windows 11 |
I guess? I would think it would be better for the fan to run at a lower RPM (quieter than most background noise) A lot of my smaller industrial fans at work, work this way. Eh, I suppose fans breaking down after things like warranty expire are pretty desirable for card manufacturers.Because people care more about silence at idle than care about the immeasurable (because it hasnt been measured..) difference due to the stresses of fan starts and stops instead of constantly running.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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System Name | Virtual Reality / Bioinformatics |
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Processor | Undead CPU |
Motherboard | Undead TUF X99 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 |
Memory | GSkill 128GB DDR4-3000 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 3090 FTW3 Ultra |
Storage | Samsung 960 Pro 1TB + 860 EVO 2TB + WD Black 5TB |
Display(s) | 32'' 4K Dell |
Case | Fractal Design R5 |
Audio Device(s) | BOSE 2.0 |
Power Supply | Seasonic 850watt |
Mouse | Logitech Master MX |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 Cherry MX Blue |
VR HMD | HTC Vive + Oculus Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 10 P |
System Name | Cyberline |
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Processor | Intel Core i7 2600k -> 12600k |
Motherboard | Asus P8P67 LE Rev 3.0 -> Gigabyte Z690 Auros Elite DDR4 |
Cooling | Tuniq Tower 120 -> Custom Watercoolingloop |
Memory | Corsair (4x2) 8gb 1600mhz -> Crucial (8x2) 16gb 3600mhz |
Video Card(s) | AMD RX480 -> RX7800XT |
Storage | Samsung 750 Evo 250gb SSD + WD 1tb x 2 + WD 2tb -> 2tb MVMe SSD |
Display(s) | Philips 32inch LPF5605H (television) -> Dell S3220DGF |
Case | antec 600 -> Thermaltake Tenor HTCP case |
Audio Device(s) | Focusrite 2i4 (USB) |
Power Supply | Seasonic 620watt 80+ Platinum |
Mouse | Elecom EX-G |
Keyboard | Rapoo V700 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 64bit |
Will AMD ever beat Nvidia at high end gaming?
System Name | Budget Box |
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Processor | Xeon E5-2667v2 |
Motherboard | ASUS P9X79 Pro |
Cooling | Some cheap tower cooler, I dunno |
Memory | 32GB 1866-DDR3 ECC |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 5600XT |
Storage | WD NVME 1GB |
Display(s) | ASUS Pro Art 27" |
Case | Antec P7 Neo |
But does it actually cycle more or less? If the fan never turns on under non-gaming, then you’ve reduced start-stop wear every time you wake from sleep and not load the GPU before the next sleep cycle.Why are people all about idle fan off? Starting and stopping a motor creates excessive wear from torque.
Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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But you've introduced another start/stop cycle too. Every time you stop and start gaming for example. Use case would determine it, but I dont see a huge difference either wayBut does it actually cycle more or less? If the fan never turns on under non-gaming, then you’ve reduced start-stop wear every time you wake from sleep and not load the GPU before the next sleep cycle.
Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 3700X |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK |
Cooling | AMD Wraith Prism |
Memory | Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE |
Storage | Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse |
Display(s) | Samsung 50" QN94A Neo QLED |
Case | Antec 1200 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GX-850 |
Mouse | Razer Deathadder Chroma |
Keyboard | Logitech UltraX |
Software | Windows 11 |
The 295x2 was the fastest card for a long time so yes they have.
System Name | RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II |
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Processor | Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H |
Motherboard | Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus |
Cooling | 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB |
Video Card(s) | Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060 |
Storage | Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme |
Display(s) | Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter |
Case | Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2 |
Audio Device(s) | Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset |
Power Supply | corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock |
Mouse | Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless |
Keyboard | Roccat Aimo 120 |
VR HMD | Oculus rift |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506 |
This is 7Nm , Nvidia is said to be using Samsung's foundry, These things are not so clear cut, it could go either way.Looks good, sounds promising. But there is one issue I can not ignore, and that is that, Nvdia still has to play the die shrink card and when that happens, gap will be even more same with Intel on the CPU front.
System Name | Baxter |
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Processor | Intel i7-5775C @ 4.2 GHz 1.35 V |
Motherboard | ASRock Z97-E ITX/AC |
Cooling | Scythe Big Shuriken 3 with Noctua NF-A12 fan |
Memory | 16 GB 2400 MHz CL11 HyperX Savage DDR3 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA RTX 2070 Super Black @ 1950 MHz |
Storage | 1 TB Sabrent Rocket 2242 NVMe SSD (boot), 500 GB Samsung 850 EVO, and 4TB Toshiba X300 7200 RPM HDD |
Display(s) | Vizio P65-F1 4KTV (4k60 with HDR or 1080p120) |
Case | Raijintek Ophion |
Audio Device(s) | HDMI PCM 5.1, Vizio 5.1 surround sound |
Power Supply | Corsair SF600 Platinum 600 W SFX PSU |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 2S |
Keyboard | Logitech G613 and Microsoft Media Keyboard |
This.This is looking good for AMD, but unfortunately Nvidia already has their "SUPER" cards waiting to make the 5700 XT look too expensive compared to the regular 2070 or too slow compared to the 2070 Super. Still, really impressive if they can put out a GPU that finally matches the 1080 in power consumption and TDP. A bit late, of course. But still this card is going to be much more tempting than a Vega 64, and AMD really just needs to keep somewhat relevant until they can get the bigger Navi's out.
Intel had years to do it, possibly they can do it next year, but there will be the next Zen. GPU-wise, the gap is around the same in performance as the pre-Zen (FX) vs. Intel era. But if they did it with the CPU, one day they might do it to with the GPU.Looks good, sounds promising. But there is one issue I can not ignore, and that is that, Nvdia still has to play the die shrink card and when that happens, gap will be even more same with Intel on the CPU front.
this is cool and all... but really would have made more of an impact if this came out last year. barely better than a 2070 isn't going to convince the throng of buyers who already bought their 2070 cards. if amd can made their product cycle closer to nv releases, there would be a lot more competition. otherwise this staggered approach... whether intentional or not, is kind of between the 2070 and the nv refresh cards rumored to come out.
Processor | Core i7-12700k |
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Motherboard | Z690 Aero G D4 |
Cooling | Custom loop water, 3x 420 Rad |
Video Card(s) | RX 7900 XTX Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Plextor M10P 2TB |
Display(s) | InnoCN 27M2V |
Case | Thermaltake Level 20 XT |
Audio Device(s) | Soundblaster AE-5 Plus |
Power Supply | FSP Aurum PT 1200W |
Software | Windows 11 Pro 64-bit |
Vega should be safe for now.I do wonder when GCN based cards (as opposed to RDNA based) will be moved onto legacy support. I think it happened fairly fast with previous tetra-scale GPUs?
At least the optimization for RX GPUs is probably gonna stop soon. Happened during transition from R9 to RX, and this is an even larger transition.
System Name | Bro2 |
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Processor | Ryzen 5800X |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Corsair h115i pro rgb |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill Flare X 3200 CL14 @3800Mhz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Powercolor 6900 XT Red Devil 1.1v@2400Mhz |
Storage | M.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500MB/ Samsung 860 Evo 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 27UD69 UHD / LG 27GN950 |
Case | Fractal Design G |
Audio Device(s) | Realtec 5.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W GOLD |
Mouse | Logitech G402 |
Keyboard | Logitech slim |
Software | Windows 10 64 bit |
System Name | Personal Gaming Rig |
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Processor | Ryzen 7800X3D |
Motherboard | MSI X670E Carbon |
Cooling | MO-RA 3 420 |
Memory | 32GB 6000MHz |
Video Card(s) | RTX 4090 ICHILL FROSTBITE ULTRA |
Storage | 4x 2TB Nvme |
Display(s) | Samsung G8 OLED |
Case | Silverstone FT04 |
This is looking good for AMD, but unfortunately Nvidia already has their "SUPER" cards waiting to make the 5700 XT look too expensive compared to the regular 2070 or too slow compared to the 2070 Super. Still, really impressive if they can put out a GPU that finally matches the 1080 in power consumption and TDP. A bit late, of course. But still this card is going to be much more tempting than a Vega 64, and AMD really just needs to keep somewhat relevant until they can get the bigger Navi's out.
449 for at least 85% or more of the performance or 700+ for 5-15% more...I wonder if there is any OC potential with this card. If so then maybe I will wait for the NAVI release? I'm still thinking about the Radeon VII purchase.
Crap. No idea what to do but I guess I will wait.
Processor | 7800X3D |
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Motherboard | MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi |
Cooling | Thermalright Peerless Assassin |
Memory | 32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming |
Storage | Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB |
Display(s) | Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440) |
Case | Lian Li A3 mATX White |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | XTRFY M42 |
Keyboard | Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II |
Software | W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC |
Why are people all about idle fan off? Starting and stopping a motor creates excessive wear from torque.
I don't like the top part where it dips. It looks like someone had drop it or it has melted. In-short it looks damaged like someone squashed it.
It does look damaged by looking at the top part where it says "RADEON"
I really hope the rumored pricing for those super cards isn't real, or I will be super upset for that overpriced 2080 I bought last year.
keep somewhat relevant until they can get the bigger Navi's out.
System Name | M3401 notebook |
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Processor | 5600H |
Motherboard | NA |
Memory | 16GB |
Video Card(s) | 3050 |
Storage | 500GB SSD |
Display(s) | 14" OLED screen of the laptop |
Software | Windows 10 |
Benchmark Scores | 3050 scores good 15-20% lower than average, despite ASUS's claims that it has uber cooling. |
You mean "will AMD have somethign to beat 754mm^2 card that costs $1300 and hardly anyone buys"?Will AMD ever beat Nvidia at high end gaming?
System Name | Bro2 |
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Processor | Ryzen 5800X |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite |
Cooling | Corsair h115i pro rgb |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill Flare X 3200 CL14 @3800Mhz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Powercolor 6900 XT Red Devil 1.1v@2400Mhz |
Storage | M.2 Samsung 970 Evo Plus 500MB/ Samsung 860 Evo 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 27UD69 UHD / LG 27GN950 |
Case | Fractal Design G |
Audio Device(s) | Realtec 5.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic 750W GOLD |
Mouse | Logitech G402 |
Keyboard | Logitech slim |
Software | Windows 10 64 bit |
That's a really valuable point. Thanks for that. I will wait for the new NAVI and get one of these. I hope there will be higher end models with NAVI chip announced soon. I'd go for the top notch model when out.449 for at least 85% or more of the performance or 700+ for 5-15% more...
I own a Radeon VII and am thinking about switching just to recoup some costs if performance is even closer with custom models. The 5700 XT should perform incredibly similarly woth a 2700x and performs exceptionally well in Radeon VII's worst benchmarks, so an overclocked model with better cooling and better (stable) overclocking potential is probably going to be just as fast and get me at least 100 euros back.