AMD B550 Chipset Detailed, It's Ready for Zen 3, Older AM4 Motherboards not Compatible

[ARF]

B550 is impossibly late for Zen 2. It's about time for end-of-support and shelf life for Zen 2, if one doesn't count the new desktop APUs.
There is no such thing Zen 3+.

 

[Super XP]

It's also not supporting X470, but I'm still not going to burn AMD to the stake for that

AMD shot themselves in the foot because now more people will realize they may not be the dreamy company they paint themselves to be: they did not shy away from making vague/borderline misleading statements, first chance they got. But that's AMD's problem to deal with.

Well it's going to be a PR nightmare for AMD and deservingly so. I wonder if there will be a last minute strategy to actually support all Socket AM4 x370/x470 chipsets after all?
Total support would be wise though IMO, because many just want to plug in a new ZEN3 CPU and nothing more.
They aren't like us that want a new ZEN3 + a new chipset mobo built for that CPU.

 

[BerserkerGuts]

B550 is impossibly late for Zen 2. It's about time for end-of-support and shelf life for Zen 2, if one doesn't count the new desktop APUs.
There is no such thing Zen 3+.

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OK miss this p....o.s... series
Maybe when stop intel buisness plan new mobo buy because more upgrade +15% performance pathetic

 

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P0000pp00p0

OK miss this p....o.s... series
Maybe when stop intel buisness plan new mobo buy because more upgrade +15% performance pathetic

May I suggest https://translate.google.com ? It's less brutal on the English language.

 

[Super XP]

P0000pp00p0

OK miss this p....o.s... series
Maybe when stop intel buisness plan new mobo buy because more upgrade +15% performance pathetic

Interesting, you make it sound like the ZEN2 series is garbage? or am I not reading your post correctly?
Those that have ZEN2 don't really have to upgrade to ZEN3, but the choice is available if they so choose so. ZEN3 is mostly for those that want to upgrade from existing ZEN, ZEN+ and Intel CPUs.

 

[YAYgee]

There is no such thing Zen 3+.

After Renoir and Cezanne the next one is a Zen 3+ APU according to AMD's internal roadmap (which also will have DDR5).

B550 is impossibly late for Zen 2. It's about time for end-of-support and shelf life for Zen 2, if one doesn't count the new desktop APUs.

B550 was launched together with R3 3100 and 3300X. So it isn't only the APUs. Plus, later there might be a few "AF" releases. They left it late. Can't argue with that. Still the Zen 2 offerings that are out now are great value (priced even more attractively once Zen 3 gets released?). B550 is a budget option after all.

Zen 4 could very well be a CES 2022 launch. And we'd get refreshes in 2021. N7, N7P and N7+ ported to N6 (all 7nm family) should present no problem I hear.

PS to be clear I do feel bad for those that wanted to upgrade to Zen 3. Let's see if AMD clean up their act going forward.

 

[Gmr_Chick]

P0000pp00p0

OK miss this p....o.s... series
Maybe when stop intel buisness plan new mobo buy because more upgrade +15% performance pathetic

You created an account just to spout nonsensical BS, didn't you?

All I can say is....

 

[windwhirl]

Maybe, juuuuuust maybe, there is hope yet...

Spoiler: Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/gkgmwf

*John Taylor is AMD's Chief Marketing Officer

Although it will be nice if they actually get at least 400 series boards to be compatible with Zen 3, it makes me facepalm the amount of trouble/loss of reputation that AMD went through because of all this fiasco.

 

[bmacsys]

Maybe, juuuuuust maybe, there is hope yet...

Spoiler: Reddit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/gkgmwf

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*John Taylor is AMD's Chief Marketing Officer

Although it will be nice if they actually get at least 400 series boards to be compatible with Zen 3, it makes me facepalm the amount of trouble/loss of reputation that AMD went through because of all this fiasco.

If AMD works something out this will all be forgotten.

 

[windwhirl]

If AMD works something out this will all be forgotten.

Forgiven? I'd say yes (mostly), but forgotten? Never.

And honestly, if they are working something out, why didn't they work it out earlier? Or at least said so before? It would have saved them all the unnecessary consumer outrage.

 

[ValenOne]

I know that I said earlier that I was going to back out of this thread but I'm just going to leave this here...

Got to love the thumbnail pic for this one. Steve, you're hilarious.

Hardware Unboxed compares AM4 socket support to Intel's socket LGA1151.

From Intel's Reddit forum https://www.reddit.com/r/intel/comments/ggblio

If AMD works something out this will all be forgotten.

Give 400 series motherboard a proper exit.

 

[BerserkerGuts]

Hilarious amd defenders working on
I miss this 4000 maybe 5000 and when i say change mainboard hahaha

 

[Caring1]

Hardware Unboxed compares AM4 socket support to Intel's socket LGA1151.

What's your point?
Intel kept the same socket, but CPU's had to be changed.

 

[Aquinus]

Well it's going to be a PR nightmare for AMD and deservingly so.

Yet Intel releases a new board for literally every generation of CPU these days. I think you're overestimating the backlash. Don't forget, the squeaky wheel is always the loudest. People complain about something wrong more than they compliment when something goes right.

 

[specopsFI]

It's super weird reading forum users so widely defend AMD's decision regarding this issue. What exactly would any of you have lost, if AMD decided to actually follow through in properly supporting AM4? I can't think of a single thing. AMD could have done it, it would have required them and the MB vendors to do some extra work, made both the new CPU market and the second-hand component market more flexible... and that's basically all. So where are the negatives of that scenario, and where do your internal arguments for the decision to artificially cut the support stem from?

The only reason I can see to support the decision is for having a stake in AMD, either professionally, financially or emotionally. Could you please enlighten me, if you have a technical reason? Haven't seen any yet.

 

[bmacsys]

Forgiven? I'd say yes (mostly), but forgotten? Never.

And honestly, if they are working something out, why didn't they work it out earlier? Or at least said so before? It would have saved them all the unnecessary consumer outrage.

I disagree. People have short memories. What they will remember is AMD supported a socket for four years- if this decision is reversed. If not it will stick in people's craw. I agree. But if the value proposition is still on AMD's side people will still vote for them with their wallets as Intel really has no arrows in their quiver that can match AMD's offerings pretty much at any price point. It will be even more one sided come ZEN 3 release.

 

[ValenOne]

What's your point?
Intel kept the same socket, but CPU's had to be changed.

My point, AMD's PR nightmare for hypocrisy.

"Zen 3" can handle PCI-E 3.0 due to B550's PCIe 3.0 link to southbridge and PCIe 3.0 add-on cards.

 

[bug]

It's super weird reading forum users so widely defend AMD's decision regarding this issue. What exactly would any of you have lost, if AMD decided to actually follow through in properly supporting AM4? I can't think of a single thing. AMD could have done it, it would have required them and the MB vendors to do some extra work, made both the new CPU market and the second-hand component market more flexible... and that's basically all. So where are the negatives of that scenario, and where do your internal arguments for the decision to artificially cut the support stem from?

The only reason I can see to support the decision is for having a stake in AMD, either professionally, financially or emotionally. Could you please enlighten me, if you have a technical reason? Haven't seen any yet.

Well, AMD has been the darling of the Internet for a few years, so the reaction is not unexpected. Mind you, they haven't done anything wrong. But had they handled/communicated this with a little more sensitivity, it wouldn't have eroded public's goodwill as much.
To me all this is a blunder at best. But for people looking at AMD through rosy glasses, I imagine it's quite a disappointment.

 

[windwhirl]

Quite the learning experience this video has been.

Apparently, there's also an address range limitation regarding BIOS sizes. Never knew that.

 

[authorized]

If they did that in the first place there would be no outrage, even though it's not ideal.

 

[TheLostSwede]

"Upgrade your processor without buying a new motherboard".

But see, that says 2020. Which year is it now? So unless AMD releases the 4000-series this year, they told the truth...

Not my problem since I don't own B450 and X470.

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MSI is in legal hot water.

How so?
Matisse 2 is still coming later this year which will work just fine.

 

[ValenOne]

But see, that says 2020. Which year is it now? So unless AMD releases the 4000-series this year, they told the truth...

How so?
Matisse 2 is still coming later this year which will work just fine.

AMD Backtracks: B450, X470 Motherboards WILL Now Support Zen 3!

Your argument is flawed.

 

[TheLostSwede]

AMD Backtracks: B450, X470 Motherboards WILL Now Support Zen 3!

Your argument is flawed.

Argument? I was asking how MSI was in legal hot water, as AMD has Matisse 2 lined up for later this year.

 

[Dredi]

Argument? I was asking how MSI was in legal hot water, as AMD has Matisse 2 lined up for later this year.

MSI stated support for all future AM4 products.

 

[sepheronx]

So now we can all put this to rest.