Intel 11th Gen H35 Processors Launched: Fastest Single-Threaded Laptop Performance

[ZoneDymo]

It is trendy to hate on Intel and support the underdog. The ones that increased a 6c/12t chip price from the usual 220€ to 320€.

The whole Ryzen 5000 line up it's a joke, but let's keep atracking Intel, right?

Intel sucks and single threaded performance is useless. We all do professional render for a living, more cores = better, even at dual channel memory

yeah thats it, lets just forget how intel completely stalled on any form of progress when competition fell away, and rereleased the same processor 4 times just tweaking a bit and adding 2 more cores and the same igpu when they were, when AMD's Ryzen 8cores for 500 bucks etc came out (kinda wrecks that 6 core and up is only for the 1000+ "extreme editions" doesn it?)
oh and of course the uhh...the background deals to make sure OEM's dont use AMD hardware....

no no its all purely about "supporting the underdog".

also imagine a company asking an insanely low price for their cpu's just to gain some cred back, then when they have the performance crown back on EVERY LEVEL asking for more money for the efforts, insanity I tell ya.

 

[JMccovery]

"Measurements are estimated" ? lol? either they are measurements or they are estimates. I wonder how this passed through Intel Legal

"How long does this beam need to be?"
"The measurements say somewhere around five feet long."
"Can you give an exact measurement?"
"Yes, about five feet long."

 

[Aldain]

what kind of A BS clink-bait title is this

 

[B-Real]

Yeah yeah, of course!

It is trendy to hate on Intel and support the underdog. The ones that increased a 6c/12t chip price from the usual 220€ to 320€.

The whole Ryzen 5000 line up it's a joke, but let's keep atracking Intel, right?

Intel sucks and single threaded performance is useless. We all do professional render for a living, more cores = better, even at dual channel memory

Wow. I really pity you.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Well I thought they had turned a corner after seeing there much better presentation at CES than AMD, with regards to specification listing and clarity IE testing disclosure.
Seems they saw their strangled market gain's and ran back round the corner dropping a turd on the way (the turds the pr piece not intel or this chip as that's yet to be discovered) before the tribe attack.

No M1 fans on here today, surprised.

 

[agentnathan009]

Way to go Intel, comparing last gen AMD 4900 series to you latest and greatest! Put that hot (pun fully intended) new chip against a new AMD 5000 series and those wins will be margin of error wins or lose to your competitor...

 

[greenie]

Go Intel, been good to me as a gamer, rock solid fps consistantly.

Can't stand the heat? then get out of the kitchen.

 

[Kapone33]

This was already announced by Lisa Su at CES.

 

[Arc1t3ct]

"Measurements are estimated" ? lol? either they are measurements or they are estimates. I wonder how this passed through Intel Legal

Are you surprised?

 

[Cobain]

yeah thats it, lets just forget how intel completely stalled on any form of progress when competition fell away, and rereleased the same processor 4 times just tweaking a bit and adding 2 more cores and the same igpu when they were, when AMD's Ryzen 8cores for 500 bucks etc came out (kinda wrecks that 6 core and up is only for the 1000+ "extreme editions" doesn it?)
oh and of course the uhh...the background deals to make sure OEM's dont use AMD hardware....

no no its all purely about "supporting the underdog".

also imagine a company asking an insanely low price for their cpu's just to gain some cred back, then when they have the performance crown back on EVERY LEVEL asking for more money for the efforts, insanity I tell ya.

Did I Say otherwise? Right now Intel is the best option for almost every user:

1- zen3 is expensive. Most ppl buy 10400f or 10600k for gaming. They are cheaper than 5600x

2- zen3 incredibly hard to find

3- 5800x 480€, 10700kf 340€, easy choice

4- you need 12 cores? 16 cores? Go quad channel then, seems you make more money from a hedt platform

5- whea errors

6- more whea errors

 

[W1zzard]

Are you surprised?

I really am, it should be trivial to get those benchmark results. and they need some results to establish a baseline, even to estimate things

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

zen3 incredibly hard to find

zen 2 is still around and are still some hella good chips
i would easy get a ryzen 3600 if i was upgrading cpu

 

[Steevo]

5Ghz for a fraction of a second during boot, then thermal throttle unless sitting outside in -20 temps

 

[Caring1]

5Ghz for a fraction of a second during boot, then thermal throttle unless sitting outside in -20 temps

Agreed, they might not be lying about those figures, but it certainly is a stretch of the truth meant to confuse consumers.
Same issue arises with audio speakers and marketing using PMPO instead of RMS, because the bigger figure appears more appealing to the clueless.

 

[Minus Infinity]

Intel will sells his mother and beat a baby to death these day just to beat AMD by 1 fps. Will scream WINNING while being on fire and barely alive.

Exactly and that's the only reason the mini nuclear reactor also known as Rocket Lake exists. And utterly pathetic product that has no reason to exist. They could have waited for Alder Lake, but the need to just one-up AMD by a few fps in 1080p gaming at any power level is simply pathetic. Alder Lake could be an excellent product and why waste resources on trying to backport Ice Lake cores to 14nm. That money should have gone to the graphics division.

 

[mustapha]

Right now INTEL cpu are a power hog and if you need a heater in the cold winter also you can get an intel CPU XD, come on competition is good and the blue team work hard to break competition not by innovation but by business tactics; thats poor

 

[Melvis]

Go Intel, been good to me as a gamer, rock solid fps consistantly.

Can't stand the heat? then get out of the kitchen.

You best get out of the kitchen then

 

[Solid State Soul ( SSS )]

Yeah yeah, of course!


Wow. I really pity you.

He's got a point, regardless what most might think, AMD pricing on their 5000 series Ryzen is pure BS, starting at 300$ for a 6 core, yet people not saying a thing and swallow it, if intel charged more, people will riot, the bias is clear, AMD took advantage of its lead to charge more and out intel'd themselves as a result, in the end remember that neither AMD nor Intel are your friends, if they saw an opportunity to get more out of you and get away with it, they will do it in a heart beat .

I generally avoid conversations like this, but hypocritical bias with a straight face gets under my skin

also imagine a company asking an insanely low price for their cpu's just to gain some cred back, then when they have the performance crown back on EVERY LEVEL asking for more money for the efforts, insanity I tell ya.

So by that definition its ok when companies charge more just because they'r in the lead ?
Would you agree that Nvidia outrages pricing is ok just because for a long time AMD has not been competitive ?
Would you agree that paying 20% - 50% more for Samsung SSDs is acceptable despite competition charging less and performs the same ?

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

Did I Say otherwise? Right now Intel is the best option for almost every user:

1- zen3 is expensive. Most ppl buy 10400f or 10600k for gaming. They are cheaper than 5600x

2- zen3 incredibly hard to find

3- 5800x 480€, 10700kf 340€, easy choice

4- you need 12 cores? 16 cores? Go quad channel then, seems you make more money from a hedt platform

5- whea errors

6- more whea errors

Just to interject, but if you are going to make sweeping claims and assumptions, Im going to need some empirical evidence (like sales figures or reviews citing these errors)...no offense, but random people's opinions don't mean anything

He's got a point, regardless what most might think, AMD pricing on their 5000 series Ryzen is pure BS, starting at 300$ for a 6 core, yet people not saying a thing and swallow it, if intel charged more, people will riot, the bias is clear, AMD took advantage of its lead to charge more and out intel'd themselves as a result, in the end remember that neither AMD nor Intel are your friends, if they saw an opportunity to get more out of you and get away with it, they will do it in a heart beat .

I generally avoid conversations like this, but hypocritical bias with a straight face gets under my skin


So by that definition its ok when companies charge more just because they'r in the lead ?
Would you agree that Nvidia outrages pricing is ok just because for a long time AMD has not been competitive ?
Would you agree that paying 20% - 50% more for Samsung SSDs is acceptable despite competition charging less and performs the same ?

Bias is clear? on pricing? When Intel was charging $1000 for the 5960x, there weren't any riots...in fact, nobody made a peep. Also, your assessment of the 5000 series pricing is completely divorced from context. The 1700x debuted at $500, wasn't close to the fastest single threaded performance, and then just two generations later, the 5800x debuts, is the fastest in EVERY category, and is $450, $50 cheaper than the 1700x while being at least 40% faster....now, name the last time intel provided a 40% boost in performance over that short of time while charging $50 less....i'll save you the time because you can't. When people whine about 5000 series pricing, they NEVER mention the context, because it's completely justified...instead they blindly compare it to 3000 series which wasn't the fastest and was therefore priced accordingly. Want to talk about bias? How about the biased expectation that for some inexplicable reason, AMD should sell their product at cost even when they're literally the best that can be bought? Where does that biased expectation and sense of entitlement come from?

 

[Manoa]

it come from whea errors :x
do you know whay when someone look at intel they only look performance and watts and.... the rest of the important things ? it becuase they are used to it , to what ? to 0 BIOS problems, stability...intel ucode/BIOS is always polished, even today the latest zen 3 still have many software problems. intel people compare with focus on things at front is becuase with intel all you have to look at is the front (performance, watt, cores whatever). on the other hand with AMD - you always have to "look over the shoulder", look backwards (will this mobo/model/ram combo be stable - are the first question AMD user ask), while intel user first ask: will this program run normal on this cpu....

 

[AusWolf]

I'm only wondering: what makes this CPU a Special Edition?

 

[Manoa]

I'm only wondering: what makes this CPU a Special Edition?

5000 mhz in laptop for less than 1 seconds before it burned

 

[Shatun_Bear]

I was like oooh this must be against AMD's 5000 Series of Mobile CPU's then when I looked at the graphs its against a yr old 4000series, like wtf? LOL

Yep exactly. In fact, Intel's latest here is still worse than AMD's mobile 4000-series as Intel's cherry-picked leads in single core are almost margin of error slim but they lose badly in multi-core, power draw/efficiency and price as still too many vendors have the inferior Intel specced variant as the higher priced models.

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

It annoys me people are going Ryzen 5000 is too expensive
you know what has happen Amd is on top and they can charge tons of money IF it doesnt sell they will drop the price and then you will know it was to expensive
but in the mean time they have shipped more then 1million cpus

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

'Results are estimated'. What does that even mean? Did they actually run benches or did they just make up numbers out of this air? If Intel are serious about getting competitive products they need to lower prices significantly, otherwise there is no point in buying Intel processors. They are slower in general, more expensive, consume more power, on limited upgradability path and generally way more locked in terms of overclocking, memory overclocking and just good mobo features on the lower end mobo's.

Maybe they are so hard to obtain that even Intel didn’t have a sample to test.