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One must prefer AMD's stance because Nvidia's stance is bogus and a publicity stunt. AMD is upfront at least.
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I believe it was already mentioned: it's not that they won't, but they can't. Their Linux driver is open-source, if they put any kind of limiter in there, miners will take it out in no-time. And they can't do the whole driver+silicon+firmware handshake either, because they didn't lock the firmware either.I think this is a good thing but on the other hand AMD blocks the GPUs in other way such as locked clocks, power limit etc. So either way AMD wants to control something. Guess each company does since they have different targets with their products.
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That's not the point I was trying to make. They can't block mining so they block other stuff and "AMD wants to control something" was not a reference to mining.I believe it was already mentioned: it's not that they won't, but they can't. Their Linux driver is open-source, if they put any kind of limiter in there, miners will take it out in no-time. And they can't do the whole driver+silicon+firmware handshake either, because they didn't lock the firmware either.
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One must prefer AMD's stance because Nvidia's stance is bogus and a publicity stunt. AMD is upfront at least.
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really? the open source driver still require AMDGPU firmware/microcode binary blobs.......I believe it was already mentioned: it's not that they won't, but they can't. Their Linux driver is open-source, if they put any kind of limiter in there, miners will take it out in no-time. And they can't do the whole driver+silicon+firmware handshake either, because they didn't lock the firmware either.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 9950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
See my posts. Doesn't make a difference.really? the open source driver still require AMDGPU firmware/microcode binary blobs.......
I don't think you understand the entire process that happens when you use one of those BIOS modifiers. The BIOS image is basically split in to parts like this (it's just an illustration): [PPPPPPNNNNPPNNNNNPPP] Where P contains cryptographically protected code and N does not. You modify N parts with your software. You flash the entire BIOS back into the chip. The protected parts don't change, crypto signatures are still valid and the card starts up. If you go and modify the image directly touching P parts thus screwing up the signed parts then the card will either not boot or not function properly (depending on what you broke).The chip on the card is completely filled via the bios images we dump/modify. I don't know what you are getting at.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 9950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
And I think you are massively underestimating what I understand.I don't think you understand the entire process that happens when you use one of those BIOS modifiers. The BIOS image is basically split in to parts like this
Well, I base my assessment on our conversation here, and this reply only reinforces it.And I think you are massively underestimating what I understand.
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Case | Chieftec |
Audio Device(s) | onboard |
Power Supply | seasonic prime 1000W |
Mouse | Razer Viper |
Keyboard | Logitech |
Software | Windows 10 |
System Name | RyzenGtEvo/ Asus strix scar II |
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Processor | Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H |
Motherboard | Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus |
Cooling | 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB |
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Case | Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2 |
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Power Supply | corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock |
Mouse | Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless |
Keyboard | Roccat Aimo 120 |
VR HMD | Oculus rift |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506 |
Likewise with your statement, total balls pal.AMD doesn't give a flying f...k about PC gaming, they barely exist compared to Nvidia and the time and effort to release that statement is already too much.
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Audio Device(s) | onboard |
Power Supply | seasonic prime 1000W |
Mouse | Razer Viper |
Keyboard | Logitech |
Software | Windows 10 |
Read carefully what i said, PC gaming, not consoles.Likewise with your statement, total balls pal.
Barely exist, my ass they had consoles and pcs for well over ten years and your blinkered bullshit just demonstrated your opinions value.
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Processor | Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H |
Motherboard | Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus |
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Memory | Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB |
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Storage | Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme |
Display(s) | Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter |
Case | Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2 |
Audio Device(s) | Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset |
Power Supply | corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock |
Mouse | Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless |
Keyboard | Roccat Aimo 120 |
VR HMD | Oculus rift |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506 |
Read carefully what I say.Read carefully what i said, PC gaming, not consoles.
Let's say i am AMD, should i care about the 1% gpu sales or 100% of console market i have, well, have as making the cpu and gpu for microsoft and sony.
Whatever they do with gpu's in PC realm is just money grab, history of what they launched the last 5 or more years proved it, radeon VII, vega 64 and more, at some point they didn't even tried to compete high end.
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AMD doesn't care. Neither does Nvidia, or Intel, or Taco Bell. They're all in the business to make money.Read carefully what I say.
This is a thread about AMD not limiting miner's or any workload.
Take your biased let's debate AMD v Nvidia crap elsewhere, like the team green thread.
You have f all proof AMD don't care and if you do pass it the news team ,your vitreal is useless to this topic.
And the steam charts your type pedal mean shit too, before you pull that shit out.
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Processor | Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H |
Motherboard | Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus |
Cooling | 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB |
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Storage | Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme |
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Case | Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2 |
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Power Supply | corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock |
Mouse | Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless |
Keyboard | Roccat Aimo 120 |
VR HMD | Oculus rift |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506 |
Without concerns for your customers and bottom line you won't be around long and that's the shortage rage talking , with no proof too.AMD doesn't care. Neither does Nvidia, or Intel, or Taco Bell. They're all in the business to make money.
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Storage | Crucial MX500 1TB, 2x1TB Seagate RAID 0 :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, 3x4TB Seagate HDD RAID5 |
Display(s) | Onn 165hz 1080p :: Acer 1080p |
Case | Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower |
Audio Device(s) | Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro - Bose Companion 2 Series III :: None |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro GE 550w :: EVGA Supernova 550 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly |
Benchmark Scores | >9000 |
While true, it's in every company's best interests to cater to their customers far enough to get sales. My point is that doesn't make them your friend. Nvidia won't come to your house and share a bottle and a pack of smokes if your girlfriend breaks up with you, but neither will AMD.Without concerns for your customers and bottom line you won't be around long and that's the shortage rage talking , with no proof too.
I'm not without some anger over this shituation, but I'm not getting crazy, there's many reasons not one.
It's a true shitstorm, shitburg, shitnado Even of circumstances.
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Processor | Amd R5 5900X/ Intel 8750H |
Motherboard | Crosshair hero8 impact/Asus |
Cooling | 360EK extreme rad+ 360$EK slim all push, cpu ek suprim Gpu full cover all EK |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance Rgb pro 3600cas14 16Gb in four sticks./16Gb/16GB |
Video Card(s) | Powercolour RX7900XT Reference/Rtx 2060 |
Storage | Silicon power 2TB nvme/8Tb external/1Tb samsung Evo nvme 2Tb sata ssd/1Tb nvme |
Display(s) | Samsung UAE28"850R 4k freesync.dell shiter |
Case | Lianli 011 dynamic/strix scar2 |
Audio Device(s) | Xfi creative 7.1 on board ,Yamaha dts av setup, corsair void pro headset |
Power Supply | corsair 1200Hxi/Asus stock |
Mouse | Roccat Kova/ Logitech G wireless |
Keyboard | Roccat Aimo 120 |
VR HMD | Oculus rift |
Software | Win 10 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | 8726 vega 3dmark timespy/ laptop Timespy 6506 |
Obviously who said they'd get the beers in?!While true, it's in every company's best interests to cater to their customers far enough to get sales. My point is that doesn't make them your friend. Nvidia won't come to your house and share a bottle and a pack of smokes if your girlfriend breaks up with you, but neither will AMD.
System Name | Pioneer |
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Processor | Ryzen R9 9950X |
Motherboard | GIGABYTE Aorus Elite X670 AX |
Cooling | Noctua NH-D15 + A whole lotta Sunon and Corsair Maglev blower fans... |
Memory | 64GB (4x 16GB) G.Skill Flare X5 @ DDR5-6000 CL30 |
Video Card(s) | XFX RX 7900 XTX Speedster Merc 310 |
Storage | Intel 905p Optane 960GB boot, +2x Crucial P5 Plus 2TB PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSDs |
Display(s) | 55" LG 55" B9 OLED 4K Display |
Case | Thermaltake Core X31 |
Audio Device(s) | TOSLINK->Schiit Modi MB->Asgard 2 DAC Amp->AKG Pro K712 Headphones or HDMI->B9 OLED |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro Ti Pro 850W |
Mouse | Logitech G305 Lightspeed Wireless |
Keyboard | WASD Code v3 with Cherry Green keyswitches + PBT DS keycaps |
Software | Gentoo Linux x64 / Windows 11 Enterprise IoT 2024 |
What would you like me to do? Link some of my mod work in bios land (I've done both VGA for both brands and UEFI/BIOS on mobos)? Would that help? Serious question.Well, I base my assessment on our conversation here, and this reply only reinforces it.
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Motherboard | Some proprietary Apple thing. |
Memory | 64GB DDR4-2667 |
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Storage | 1TB Apple NVMe, 4TB External |
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Case | MacBook Pro (16", 2019) |
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Power Supply | 96w Power Adapter |
Mouse | Logitech MX Master 3 |
Keyboard | Logitech G915, GL Clicky |
Software | MacOS 12.1 |
How many f l o p s does that pack of smokes have?While true, it's in every company's best interests to cater to their customers far enough to get sales. My point is that doesn't make them your friend. Nvidia won't come to your house and share a bottle and a pack of smokes if your girlfriend breaks up with you, but neither will AMD.
System Name | Starlifter :: Dragonfly |
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Processor | i7 2600k 4.4GHz :: i5 10400 |
Motherboard | ASUS P8P67 Pro :: ASUS Prime H570-Plus |
Cooling | Cryorig M9 :: Stock |
Memory | 4x4GB DDR3 2133 :: 2x8GB DDR4 2400 |
Video Card(s) | PNY GTX1070 :: Integrated UHD 630 |
Storage | Crucial MX500 1TB, 2x1TB Seagate RAID 0 :: Mushkin Enhanced 60GB SSD, 3x4TB Seagate HDD RAID5 |
Display(s) | Onn 165hz 1080p :: Acer 1080p |
Case | Antec SOHO 1030B :: Old White Full Tower |
Audio Device(s) | Creative X-Fi Titanium Fatal1ty Pro - Bose Companion 2 Series III :: None |
Power Supply | FSP Hydro GE 550w :: EVGA Supernova 550 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro - Plex Server on Dragonfly |
Benchmark Scores | >9000 |
Normally 20How many f l o p s does that pack of smokes have?
I think this is a good thing but on the other hand AMD blocks the GPUs in other way such as locked clocks, power limit etc. So either way AMD wants to control something. Guess each company does since they have different targets with their products.