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You clearly don't work in the business and understand how these things work.You can choose to ignore the reality of GPU vendors forcing unwanted gear on retailers. Microcenter gpu prices are a tad higher to compensate not forcing the bundles.
I think microcenter having them on shelves is a horrible thing given they are bombs waiting to go off. Newegg is just worse by forwarding the bundle forced on them.
It's not possible to "force" any company to make a bundle like that.
Bundles are usually done in a way that the seller gets a kickback in some form from the manufacturer, it's the only way bundles happen. There's no other incentive that could enable bundles like this.
You're free to dive into your conspiracy theories here, just remember to wear a tinfoil hat.
Also, I doubt this was "unwanted" gear, as I'm sure Gigabyte thought it was a perfectly fine product.
The FCC doesn't certify power related products, that's UL, but I guess you knew that. However, FCC is required to sell a device with a radio transmitter in it of any kind in the US market.CE is funny. It's "self declaration". If someone reports you, they just ask you to remove the logo. That's why so many cheap PSUs have CE. FCC is the same way.
The GP--GM series PSU label has UL (which is not required), CCC, TÜV, KCC (which are required in those regions).
Patrick noted that different samples have different parts used for the primary PWM switchers.
I have to wonder if the decision was made to use multiple sources was made initially, or because so many suppliers simply have no parts (I can't get an Infineon MOSFET for an HX's PWM circuit to save my life right now!). If you second and third source after you've already labeled and launched the product, you have to provide samples, pay and wait each time you do so. Thousands of dollars and several weeks. Part of me wonders if the logos on the label even actually represent the product shipping.
CE is required to sell products in Europe, but yes, it's self certification as you point out. However, if you get reported, you'll have to pull the products from the market.
CCC is pointless, that's a PRC certification that you can get with a red envelope.
TÜV can be anything, as you pay them to test what you want to have tested.
KCC is for Korea only.
Also, I thought UL was required these days, but I could be wrong.
I don't think any decision was made, this is what happens when you don't have QC/QA staff on site and manufacture things in the PRC.
I've had similar experiences, both at companies I've worked for and at my own business.
I made a very simple power board for a customer, the company that manufactured it for me couldn't get hold of the right part, so they used a pair of slightly lower rated capacitors and it ended up being a problem, since in certain circumstances the products that were powered didn't get enough power, so they wouldn't start. Do you think the manufacturer told me about the change?
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It caused quite a bit of a headache and I can tell you that I didn't use that manufacturer again.
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