Intel Teases Arc Desktop Graphics Card

[Cutechri]

I swear, y'all cannot stop being cynical for at least once.

I'm looking forward to this. All Intel needs to do is not have a 500W GPU like the current offerings from the idiotic green & red boys.

 

[Assimilator]

I swear, y'all cannot stop being cynical for at least once.

I'm looking forward to this. All Intel needs to do is not have a 500W GPU like the current offerings from the idiotic green & red boys.

Some of us old bastards have actually been around long enough to remember the crushing tower of disappointment and failure that was the i740. Once bitten, twice shy.

Again, if Intel does manage to deliver, I'll have all the praise in the world for them. Like your sig says, I don't have any loyalty to companies only products, and if Intel can deliver a product that at least competes in the midrange and at a decent price then I'll gladly STFU. Until or unless that happens, my past experiences will continue to dictate my view of the future.

 

[Cutechri]

ok

 

[lexluthermiester]

Yes, I mentioned that...

Oops, sorry.. I made that classic mistake of: "See video, click to play".

Where's the Vulkan 1.3 driver, Intel? And the Elden Ring release date driver?
You can't have a competing gaming GPU if you still don't focus on driver development...

These cards aren't released yet. Chill..

Some of us old bastards have actually been around long enough to remember the crushing tower of disappointment and failure that was the i740. Once bitten, twice shy.

It wasn't that bad. It wasn't stellar, but it wasn't bad either.

Vapourware is stillllllllllll vapourware

And silly comments are still silly..

 

[LabRat 891]

Anyone else getting 'Turn of the DX10 era' 'vibes'?
Beasts of computing power, also electrical power, and not really taken advantage of architecturally until at least the 2nd release revision.
G80 and R600 both were big jumps in performance, but also considerably higher TDPs than the previous generation. G92 and RV670 helped tame those TDPs and optimized the architecture.

 

[eidairaman1]

Anyone else getting 'Turn of the DX10 era' 'vibes'?
Beasts of computing power, also electrical power, and not really taken advantage of architecturally until at least the 2nd release revision.
G80 and R600 both were big jumps in performance, but also considerably higher TDPs than the previous generation. G92 and RV670 helped tame those TDPs and optimized the architecture.

3090TI is ridiculous on power use.

 

[GoldenX]

These cards aren't released yet. Chill..

There are several other devices, including low end dedicated GPUs, using those drivers, and Intel failed to deliver for all of them.

 

[AusWolf]

I swear, y'all cannot stop being cynical for at least once.

I'm looking forward to this. All Intel needs to do is not have a 500W GPU like the current offerings from the idiotic green & red boys.

I couldn't agree more. Even if the final product doesn't turn out to be extremely good, I'm really looking forward to seeing something different at least. Heck, I might as well buy one just out of curiosity.

Some of us old bastards have actually been around long enough to remember the crushing tower of disappointment and failure that was the i740. Once bitten, twice shy.

Again, if Intel does manage to deliver, I'll have all the praise in the world for them. Like your sig says, I don't have any loyalty to companies only products, and if Intel can deliver a product that at least competes in the midrange and at a decent price then I'll gladly STFU. Until or unless that happens, my past experiences will continue to dictate my view of the future.

This sounds to me like one of those "I don't want a girlfriend because my ex was a b***" comments. No offense.

In IT terms, one could have anticipated AMD's Zen to be crap just because they failed with FX, and look where they are now.

I'm not saying that Arc will be awesome. All I'm saying is that there's no need to be salty before it releases.

 

[GoldenX]

Using only FX as an example ignores the stomping that Athlon 64 was.
Intel has yet to deliver anything in the GPU market that is actually valuable.

 

[lexluthermiester]

There are several other devices, including low end dedicated GPUs, using those drivers, and Intel failed to deliver for all of them.

I guess I just haven't seen any issues with Intel drivers. Expecting Vulkan and Eldon Ring driver updates for IGPs might be asking a bit much.

Using only FX as an example ignores the stomping that Athlon 64 was.

True!

Intel has yet to deliver anything in the GPU market that is actually valuable.

To gaming, yes. However, Intel IGPs offer a great, easy to make and use solution for everything else. And let's be fair, since IRIS, Intel IGPs have offered reasonable performance in 720p/1080p gaming. Not top tier by any stretch, but passable. If it's all someone has, drop to 720p, turn down some settings and get your game on.

 

[AusWolf]

Using only FX as an example ignores the stomping that Athlon 64 was.

Athlon64 was awesome, I give you that.

Intel has yet to deliver anything in the GPU market that is actually valuable.

So? It's still not a good enough reason to be pessimistic without any kind of performance data available.

Edit: If anything, it's just a reason for Intel to try to make something really impressive, even if it costs them a bit of delay.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

It's crazy to me how critical so many are even though with Intel entering the discrete GPU space we will have 3 GPU makers at play. That is literally good for everyone if Intel even has a tiny bit of success with it.

 

[GoldenX]

It's crazy to me how critical so many are even though with Intel entering the discrete GPU space we will have 3 GPU makers at play. That is literally good for everyone if Intel even has a tiny bit of success with it.

AMD already does the minimum required effort, I don't want an even lazier attempt at it. Only ends with the consumer suffering of bad support and broken promises.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

AMD already does the minimum required effort, I don't want an even lazier attempt at it. Only ends with the consumer suffering of bad support and broken promises.

Minimum required effort? what does that even mean?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Only ends with the consumer suffering of bad support and broken promises.

To be fair, Intel has not promised Vulkan support, afaik..

 

[AusWolf]

AMD already does the minimum required effort, I don't want an even lazier attempt at it. Only ends with the consumer suffering of bad support and broken promises.

Who said it's gonna be a lazy attempt?

 

[Assimilator]

This sounds to me like one of those "I don't want a girlfriend because my ex was a b***" comments. No offense.

In IT terms, one could have anticipated AMD's Zen to be crap just because they failed with FX, and look where they are now.

I really hate to quote myself, but I'll do it because apparently you lack basic literacy skills (offense fully intended because only assholes say offensive things and then try to weasel out of the fact that they did so with "no offense", also known as "it's just a prank bro"):

Again, if Intel does manage to deliver, I'll have all the praise in the world for them.

So? It's still not a good enough reason to be pessimistic without any kind of performance data available.

I've already discussed the shitshow that was i740, I haven't even touched on Larrabee, and you're telling me there's no reason to be pessimistic based on the fact that every previous attempt by Intel to make it in the discrete graphics space has been a colossal failure.

This is why history should be mandatory in schools.

It's crazy to me how critical so many are even though with Intel entering the discrete GPU space we will have 3 GPU makers at play. That is literally good for everyone if Intel even has a tiny bit of success with it.

No, it's only good if the new player is actually competitive. Otherwise that new player might as well not be there.

Minimum required effort? what does that even mean?

The turd that is the 6500 XT, an iGPU that was made into a dGPU.

 

[lexluthermiester]

So i guess every single time Intel try and make a DGPU from now on it will be a colossal failure, given their previous attempts then. Shame we don't give them a chance at least eh. Are you so pessimistic about everything.

There is that "Ignore" button. Use it...

 

[Deleted member 24505]

There is that "Ignore" button. Use it.

I don't ignore anyone any more.

I think there are more offensive remarks in this thread that more deserved your reply to me, but whatever, deleted my comment for you.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I don't ignore anyone any more.

Wish I could say the same.

I think there are more offensive remarks in this thread that more deserved your reply to me

Perhaps. The anti(insert your company name here) fanboyishness displayed in the comments of every product announcement, like the ones in this thread about Intel's ARC GPUs, is getting REALLY old... Many of us share your frustration.

but whatever, deleted my comment for you.

You didn't have to do that, it was only a suggestion..

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Personally I am just sick of waiting , and the hypin.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Why must they always orientate the fin structure to dump the heat right into the PC case!!? The exception to that rule are blower design and fanless compute cards, but like almost all top down cooler solutions are setup to exhaust the heat from the fins right into the PC case I mean why must they virtually all do that!!? I've seen a few rare instances when they don't, but the overwhelming majority do it. Enjoy your complimentary ambient GPU waste hate CPU and VRM's. It's a shame cases haven't been setup to mount the GPU right at the top of the case and exhaust that heat right out the top because heat is going to rise anyway.

Geometry. Placing the fans in a vertical postion allows for thicker and easier heat[pipe placement and more overall fin area for dissipating heat.

The issue here is not that we have vertical fins, rather its taht cae makers have utterly abandoned side fans. In the early 2010s cases with side fans were common, and coupled with these open frame coolers you could cool 375 watt 580s with no issues. But now everyone wants LEDs and glass panels isntead.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

Geometry. Placing the fans in a vertical postion allows for thicker and easier heat[pipe placement and more overall fin area for dissipating heat.

The issue here is not that we have vertical fins, rather its taht cae makers have utterly abandoned side fans. In the early 2010s cases with side fans were common, and coupled with these open frame coolers you could cool 375 watt 580s with no issues. But now everyone wants LEDs and glass panels isntead.

My case has glass panels, but i like it as it uses the chimney airflow system. Cool in bottom, hot out the top, not front to back.

 

[AusWolf]

I really hate to quote myself, but I'll do it because apparently you lack basic literacy skills (offense fully intended because only assholes say offensive things and then try to weasel out of the fact that they did so with "no offense", also known as "it's just a prank bro"):

I merely stated what your comment sounded like to me. It's not an offense. It's a fact. I don't recall calling you things, either. Yet, you didn't refrain from doing that, so who's being offensive now?

I've already discussed the shitshow that was i740, I haven't even touched on Larrabee, and you're telling me there's no reason to be pessimistic based on the fact that every previous attempt by Intel to make it in the discrete graphics space has been a colossal failure.

The i740 happened ages ago - and I don't recall it being particularly bad, just not living up to what the competition released as a response. The S3 ViRGE I had at that time was a lot worse by comparison.

Larrabee was never released as far as I know, so how can it be a bad product, or a product at all for that matter?

Also, it's not like any CPU/GPU design company hasn't failed with anything in history (AMD FX, GeForce 5-series, Intel Pentium 4).

 

[lexluthermiester]

The i740 happened ages ago - and I don't recall it being particularly bad, just not living up to what the competition released as a response.

Exactly. It was a reasonable GPU for the price. It just wasn't spectacular.