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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 40-series Arriving This July?

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If true, Somebody need to Organize a pre-emptive strike against Scalpers. before they spoil it for us again, and make us poor enthusiasts have to sell a kidney in order to get a better graphics card.
 

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one can actually buy 3070 at $660, so I expect 4070 to cost the same and perform like 3090Ti or 3070+50%. profitability in mining is now around $1,2 and dropping. the point of no return $30 per GH/s is reached.
 
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one can actually buy 3070 at $660, so I expect 4070 to cost the same and perform like 3090Ti or 3070+50%. profitability in mining is now around $1,2 and dropping. the point of no return $30 per GH/s is reached.

if you expect a 4070 to perform like a 3090ti and cost the same as 3070 does now i think you are living in cloud cuckoo land.. such things aint gonna happen.. :)

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I hate Evil Nvidia. Slots 4090 into machine, mark sys specs as AMD 6800XT

It will mean some happy miners or some sad gamers.
 
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I hate Evil Nvidia. Slots 4090 into machine, mark sys specs as AMD 6800XT

It will mean some happy miners or some sad gamers.
How about a comprimise? I want to be a happy gamer. :D

But thats prolly asking too much.:shadedshu:
 

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if you expect a 4070 to perform like a 3090ti and cost the same as 3070 does now i think you are living in cloud cuckoo land.. such things aint gonna happen.. :)

trog

next gen xx70 tends to be 50% faster, and 1070 did beat titanX, 2070 was slower than 1080ti, 3070 equal to 2080Ti. unfortunately 4070 got a bad deal with the 192 bit bus, but considering the massive clock boost from the N4 and its 7680 cuda should at least land within 3080Ti territory in <4K resolution and 90Ti is not that much better.
 

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I want a new card so bad! lol My 2070 is still great but my daughter's rig needs an upgrade. Her R9 270 is long in the tooth. Now of course she will be getting my 2070 but that's still a huge update. lol
 

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next gen xx70 tends to be 50% faster, and 1070 did beat titanX, 2070 was slower than 1080ti, 3070 equal to 2080Ti. unfortunately 4070 got a bad deal with the 192 bit bus, but considering the massive clock boost from the N4 and its 7680 cuda should at least land within 3080Ti territory in <4K resolution and 90Ti is not that much better.
I don't agree with that, 980 Ti/1070/2060 trade blows equally depending on the game.
 
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next gen xx70 tends to be 50% faster, and 1070 did beat titanX, 2070 was slower than 1080ti, 3070 equal to 2080Ti. unfortunately 4070 got a bad deal with the 192 bit bus, but considering the massive clock boost from the N4 and its 7680 cuda should at least land within 3080Ti territory in <4K resolution and 90Ti is not that much better.

i expect a 4070 to come in at about $1100 dollars.. i could be wrong though its still anybodies guess at the moment.... he he

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I want a new card so bad! lol My 2070 is still great but my daughter's rig needs an upgrade. Her R9 270 is long in the tooth. Now of course she will be getting my 2070 but that's still a huge update. lol

You're in the US, lots of people say there are getting MSRP cards, or close to it. Is that a internet myth?

Here in the EU i see no signs of anything close to MSRP. I paid 650€ (great price at the time btw) for mine and they are now around the same price. Not great for a card that has some time in the market now.

edit: i actually looked now, and it's more like 700€ and more for models with better cooling.
 

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You're in the US, lots of people say there are getting MSRP cards, or close to it. Is that a internet myth?

Here in the EU i see no signs of anything close to MSRP. I paid 650€ (great price at the time btw) for mine and they are now around the same price. Not great for a card that has some time in the market now.

edit: i actually looked now, and it's more like 700€ and more for models with better cooling.
Looks like newegg has a couple 3070 for 659.99 this week but still not MSRP, but that's 50 bucks cheaper than last week. So, hopefully more cards drop. I'd still hate to pay msrp for a year old card that will be a generation behind in around 2 months if this is true.
 
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Looks like newegg has a couple 3070 for 659.99 this week but still not MSRP, but that's 50 bucks cheaper than last week. So, hopefully more cards drop. I'd still hate to pay msrp for a year old card that will be a generation behind in around 2 months if this is true.

it makes no sense to buy now, even if there are no 4**** gen cards or the new navi cards for sale i'm sure they will just kick the price of the current gen cards down, it's inevitable when you eventually get more performance. That 3070 in 2 months will be a 4060 or worst with another name and some missing features or tech.
 
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one can actually buy 3070 at $660, so I expect 4070 to cost the same and perform like 3090Ti or 3070+50%. profitability in mining is now around $1,2 and dropping. the point of no return $30 per GH/s is reached.
(AD104 full or near full - 7680-7424 Cuda cores) Max $599 SRP and RTX 3090 performance at QHD in worst case scenario imo
 
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Self portraits are always great to see on TPU. Bet you didnt get that bowl(ful) for MSRP.
:D :D :D

Looks like newegg has a couple 3070 for 659.99 this week but still not MSRP, but that's 50 bucks cheaper than last week. So, hopefully more cards drop. I'd still hate to pay msrp for a year old card that will be a generation behind in around 2 months if this is true.
I dont expect newegg will drop as fast as other etailers, they will hang on as long as they can above the average price.
 
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Self portraits are always great to see on TPU. Bet you didnt get that bowl(ful) for MSRP.
:D :D :D


I dont expect newegg will drop as fast as other etailers, they will hang on as long as they can above the average price.
Right now they are dropping on Newegg quicker than everywhere else I've checked. I mean they are still high no doubt about it, but prices are coming down.
 
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They know they've lost the next generation even after:
  • Jacking the power up to ~600 watts or more on the 4090 and still losing.
  • Lying about 5nm being a 4nm by manipulating "refined 5nm" in to "4nm".
  • They don't have multiple-chip design because they got really comfortable selling to hashers who have never picked up a mining axe in their lives.
  • Releasing early would "compound our graphics leadership" to fool people who treat technology corporations like their local and regional sports teams.
  • Releasing another card during the Radeon RX 7000 series launch "to increase our performance leadership...over ourselves".
  • They only open-sourced part of their Linux drivers because the hackers released them a month ago and they wanted to wait long enough for people to conveniently forget.
  • They lied about "hash limiting" and then gave the quiet nod to hashers by releasing a "beta drivers" for the hashers to learn from in a flat-out lie to make it look like they weren't literally lying in all of their public relations.
If there is something that Nvidia can do to manipulate people they straight up will. AMD is far from perfect though I've never seen them go out of their way to actually screw consumers over.


Do you have a special RSS feed or something to warn you whenever you need to repost that or some other bottom-barrel video in some Nvidia or AMD GPU topic?

You barely ever post except for some of this fanboy shit.
Nvidia really doesn't need these things, they seem perfectly capable of creating their own issues :D
And neither does AMD, because they went MCM without your help.

These companies move in wild directions with or without all the nonsense people post about them. Nvidia, AMD, Intel.... same shit different colors.

So these shitlists are pointless. In every time of chip development there is a design win and a design that is yesterday's news. That goes for Intel's Quad that first dominated AMD's pseudo octa's and then got sundered by Ryzen's chiplets. It goes for CUDA that swallowed anything AMD in the GPU department whole and now RTX where Nvidia has a headstart on doing a similar move in gaming, albeit on monolithic dies while again the Zen treatment is moving to GPU. There is an actual choice now in GPU land, its pretty unique really and companies can lie all they want, the results count now and consumers can see it because certain tech will simply work or not work proper.

ALL companies manipulate however they can and try to get away with it, because you can't win every design round. Let's consider AMD's control over console and therefore a vast portion of the PC gaming market as a result of it. There is no question they're pushing buttons there and why do you think Nvidia pushed those refreshed Amperes with improved VRAM? Exactly - they had to as consoles carried more and games started using it quite a bit earlier than expected. We can identify a lot more of that nonsense if we really want to...

How about a comprimise? I want to be a happy gamer. :D

But thats prolly asking too much.:shadedshu:

Go in with lower expectations :D
 
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That was months ago based on months old projections. Things have changed in the last month.

i'm almost sure you double replied to me on this. But Intel CEO just said that recently, he actually doubled down, from 2023 to 2024. It was 2 weeks ago

TSMC also said it a month ago

Samsung
 
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Based on projection data that is months old...

Based on projection data that is months old...

Based on projection data that is months old...

(Are we sensing the theme yet?)

You mean a recession? (what changed since last month)

Intel is a different case, but Samsung or TSMC is based on the contracts for sure, they usually have all the production slots filled years in advance. No one gets a chip made unless they entered a contract with them sometimes years in advance, that's not projections, that's actual contracts. I don't have a quote but i remember TSMC saying for the most appealing process nodes they have all the capacity already sold.

And even Intel must already have some contracts too, they are starting to use their fabs for 3rd parties.
 
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