AMD Ryzen 9 7950X Tested in Cinebench R23

[AM4isGOD]

There's a proper us vs them thing going on on TPU. Never used to be like this, such a shame, humans can be such morons sometimes. For new visitors to TPU it's going to show what pleasant bunch we are indeed.

Only 2 pages and it is already looking like it will need a mod clean up.

 

[A Computer Guy]

The score is crap because the CPU throttled under air cooler. With 360 AIO it scored just over 36K.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1565625033073905665

Fast forward to 2023 some headlines I predict...

• AMD increases industry sales of AIO's by 147% as performance chasers go wild for Zen4.
• Are AIR coolers doomed? Noctua finally creates brown and beige AIO with matching fans.

 

[maxfly]

Drip

Drip

Drip
Yawn.

 

[vmarv]

Damn, my cpu feels so old. These Ryzen 9 and new gen Intel really kick ass!
Core i7-5960X, 8/16 @4.3, Cinebench R23, MT 9794, ST 953

 

[AM4isGOD]

Damn, my cpu feels so old. These Ryzen 9 and new gen Intel really kick ass!
Core i7-5960X, 8/16 @4.3, Cinebench R23, MT 9794, ST 953

Bet that weren't cheap either

 

[vmarv]

Bet that weren't cheap either

The i7 was 1000$ in 2014, but I paid it 100€ this spring, and 103 the MSI X99 mobo. If someone don't need the latest technology, like PCiE 4/5.0 and DDR5, can still build a fast machine.
I can upgrade to a 5-6000$ 22 cores Xeon for about 200€, getting the same multithreading performance of a Threadripper 1950X or a Ryzen 9 3900XT. The AMD chips though have higher ST performance, especially the R9 because of the frequency.
Still, if someone don't mind waiting a couple minutes more for a rendering and don't have much money, can be a great pick.

Anyway, I was also an FX owner and it's impressive to see how far AMD has gone in the CPU market.

 

[Miss_Cherry_Bomb]

I'm not going to buy intel or amd this gen. Just going to buy myself a neural net processor for my model 101 build. Should go well I think.....

Not going well!!! Send help!!!

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

What if the reviews actually paint an even worse picture?

I told you that AMD will not look good, there is no reason to expect any good results, especially given the specifications of the new SKUs. How much can a poor 6-core be? In the best case it will trade blows with the old Ryzen 7 5800X.

Especially when you so aggressively shout wait for the reviews.

One month to wait, though.

Wow, aggressively shout... (I didnt use CAPS there or is htat not considered shouting anymore?). What is aggressive is saying "I told you...<insert gibberish>"

I can wait for reviews. Not sure who else can without bashing AMD from now until then.

 

[L'Eliminateur]

"The test system was also using Windows 10, so there's the potential of some extra performance by changing to Windows 11 here as well."

¿huh?, window 11 is slower than win10 in everything except if you're using that trash alder lake hybrid crap

 

[Richards]

the local fanboy rears his ugly head again.

Tell me (not that you will actually answer because it is a pure troll account), what constitutes "eat up zen 4 for breakfast"?
What performance delta would there have to be? and do we leave power consumption out entirely for that statement? how about product price?

Dont worry, its a rhetorical question to paint once again what muppets fanboys are.

A fanboy calling me a fanboy the irony.. watch your tone mr amd

 

[Mussels]

If they're equal enough but have lower power consumption and heat output, this will be an interesting generation with refreshes and price drops from both sides
I'm still impressed enough about the 7600x beating the 12900K in multi threaded - this could be one of those rare times both sides put out improvements at the same time

What? The 12900K is a faster SKU than the entry level Ryzen 5 7600X.

Not according to the leaks so far

The only benchmark that showed different was CPU-Z, and AMD actually showed CPU-Z in their slides, demonstrating that it got no gains from their changes while other programs did (1% for CPU-Z, 40% for winzip)

 

[InVasMani]

The Zen 4 is the new Bulldozer?

No sorry Intel already holds that prestige with it 2P server chips that got rekt by a lone wolf EPYC. TAG no tag backs!

 

[maxfly]

Unless you've been living under a rock you already know raptor lake and am5 are going to clobber virtually anything thrown at them. Hell look at alder lake and zen3...they are already badass!

So lets be happy that we have some kickass processors AND gpus to look forward to! How often are we fortunate enough to have this scenario play out? A gamer/tech junkie/enthusiasts dream come true, to have whats purported to be amazing procs and gpus releasing nearly simultaneously?

Benchmarks. Sigh, benchmarks are fun to play around with and they can give you a good idea of what to expect. But ultimately its little more than a conversation piece/advertisement at this point in the game. Particularly coming from a drippy source. So lighten up and take it for what is. Nothing more than something to TALK about.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Not according to the leaks so far.

I believe that was referring to the multi-thread/general overall performance. Still probably fair even if ST performance is a little lower.

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Seems crazy that a simple cooling swap could add ~30% increase to the benchmark.

 

[ModEl4]

Regarding process tech for high performance desktop CPUs cores, the most probable scenario based on official slides would be:

	Intel	AMD
2022	Intel 7	5nm TSMC
2023	Intel 4	5nm (or 4nm) TSMC
2024	Intel 20	4nm TSMC
2025	Intel 18	3nm TSMC

So Intel from process disadvantage that has now with Raptor vs Zen4 in 2022, will go to process advantage in 2024 and 2025.

 

[A Computer Guy]

The only benchmark that showed different was CPU-Z, and AMD actually showed CPU-Z in their slides, demonstrating that it got no gains from their changes while other programs did (1% for CPU-Z, 40% for winzip)

+40% for Winzip I might have to rethink my position as an early adopter this round as I zip some very large files.

 

[usiname]

Regarding process tech for high performance desktop CPUs cores, the most probable scenario based on official slides would be:

	Intel	AMD
2022	Intel 7	5nm TSMC
2023	Intel 4	5nm (or 4nm) TSMC
2024	Intel 20	4nm TSMC
2025	Intel 18	3nm TSMC

So Intel from process disadvantage that has now with Raptor vs Zen4 in 2022, will go to process advantage in 2024 and 2025.

Intel's roadmaps are not something that can be trusted. I will believe it when I see it, don't remember when was the wast time when Intel actually executed their roadmap

 

[KitsuneChi]

Unless you've been living under a rock you already know raptor lake and am5 are going to clobber virtually anything thrown at them. Hell look at alder lake and zen3...they are already badass!

So lets be happy that we have some kickass processors AND gpus to look forward to! How often are we fortunate enough to have this scenario play out? A gamer/tech junkie/enthusiasts dream come true, to have whats purported to be amazing procs and gpus releasing nearly simultaneously?

Benchmarks. Sigh, benchmarks are fun to play around with and they can give you a good idea of what to expect. But ultimately its little more than a conversation piece/advertisement at this point in the game. Particularly coming from a drippy source. So lighten up and take it for what is. Nothing more than something to TALK about.

Found the one reasonable comment.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Found the one reasonable comment.

Yea I'm not sure what all the hub bub is about. A leak might be exciting but might also be bs - take with grain of salt. Wait for proper testing before making a final decision and when the facts are available and verifiable. Everything before that is speculation and fanfare unless someone broke an NDA or the leak was planned and executed by marketing (or blessing thereof). As fun and interesting as number chasing and Cinebench scores are it doesn't necessarily give good or complete insights into the user experience. I feel like when AMD first used Cinebench to showcase Ryzen performance it became the defacto standard barer of performance judgement over the years when it's just one of many tools in the toolbox to measure performance.

What I am most looking forward to is competitive pricing and technology between AMD and Intel and in the process hope that they don't deliver complete dogshit while trying to 1up each other.

 

[Lionheart]

So, this time round, AMD will offer overall slower SKUs across all tiers. I think AMD will have to release A620 board and lower the pricings, so that the entry model Ryzen 5 7600X costs no higher than $100.

In every AMD article, trashing them, you're beyond delusional.

 

[vmarv]

+40% for Winzip I might have to rethink my position as an early adopter this round as I zip some very large files.

Where can I find the thread showing that result? Winzip can use Open CL and GPU to speed-up the process. If the new gen Ryzen has the igpu and that option selected in Winzip settings, the perfomance could increase significantly: meaning few seconds for a thing that could take a minute.
But in my experience Winzip also very often corrupt archives when using open cl.

 

[ModEl4]

Intel's roadmaps are not something that can be trusted. I will believe it when I see it, don't remember when was the wast time when Intel actually executed their roadmap
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Indeed with the previous leadership Intel underdelivered.
But as far as roadmaps go, since new leadership, Intel actually accelerated advanced process adoption, skipping "Intel 3" adoption entirely.
Even if Intel is one process behind of what roadmaps promise, it will still have advantage vs AMD:

	Intel	AMD
2022	Intel 7	5nm TSMC
2023	Intel 4	5nm (or 4nm) TSMC
2024	Intel 3	4nm TSMC
2025	Intel 20	3nm TSMC

 

[FoxyStoat]

What? The 12900K is a faster SKU than the entry level Ryzen 5 7600X.

Ryzen 3 is entry level and competes with i3. Ryzen 5 is mid-range and competes with i5.

Intel currently has the i3 12100 but AMD didn't need to release an entry level CPU this generation because the higher tiers were selling as quick as they could make them.

The Ryzen 5 5600 competes against the i5 12400F which isn't entry level.

 

[stimpy88]

that cpu is overclocked

Actually not, just core voltage offsets manually adjusted, and good cooling.

If they're equal enough but have lower power consumption and heat output, this will be an interesting generation with refreshes and price drops from both sides
I'm still impressed enough about the 7600x beating the 12900K in multi threaded - this could be one of those rare times both sides put out improvements at the same time


Not according to the leaks so far

The only benchmark that showed different was CPU-Z, and AMD actually showed CPU-Z in their slides, demonstrating that it got no gains from their changes while other programs did (1% for CPU-Z, 40% for winzip)

CPU-Z has a special history with AMD.

Typical TPU now, sometimes i feel certain mods join in the fun. Great for new members to see.

Heaven forbid that adults can disagree with each other without others calling for bans and censorship, then resorting to name calling when what they demand doesn't happen. This is what the ignore function is all about.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

AMD upcoming 16-core CPU reaches almost 39K points in Cinebnech R23.

That’s even higher score than reported yesterday and much higher than initial reports. The flagship Ryzen7000 CPU has now been spotted reaching 38,984 points thanks to water cooling. The leaker, using engineering sample (since no SKU name is listed but AMD OPN core), does not provide any further details.


Extracted from videocards site today, still ES sample in use but more inline with expectations.

Still not worth much, it's not released, verified or tested by W1zzard or other reliable sources.