AMD Announces New Model Numbers for Future Mobile Processors

[TheLostSwede]

Starting next year, AMD will move to a new model number scheme for its mobile processors and it appears that the company has decided to use the first digit to represent the model year, which should alleviate some past confusion. The second digit in the model name will represent where in the product stack the specific chip will sit and here we're potentially getting some new 6 and 8 models, although nothing guarantees that AMD will actually implement these segments into real products. The third digit represents the architecture, so a four equals Zen 4 for example.

The last digit in the model names is a new addition where AMD has sub SKUs that offer some performance advantage of the base SKU of a specific model and this digit will apparently only be represented by a 0 or a 5. Finally AMD has added a new suffix too, where C stands for Chromebook. This translates to 15-28 Watt chips that have been designed specifically for Chromebook usage. The current HX, HS and U suffix lettering will carry over, alongside the lower-case e for 9 W versions the U SKUs. AMD has also segmented it's mobile CPUs according to the chart below, to try and deliver a clearer use case for its various CPU models. The chart is pretty self explanatory, although some of the segmentation will apply to updated models of current designs, whereas others will only apply to new laptop designs. The new model numbering scheme will apply to at least 2025.



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[dj-electric]

I want to congradulate AMD on surpassing Intel

In confusing naming scheme for laptop CPUs.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I want to congradulate AMD on surpassing Intel

In confusing naming scheme for laptop CPUs.

The third digit is all that matters... And maybe the suffix.

 

[Chaitanya]

Just watched this, and seriously this new naming is stupid:

 

[zlobby]

Give me a mobile beast already, will you, AMD!

 

[RandallFlagg]

This is obviously very deceptive and underhanded practice AMD has been embarking on.

People are going to go out and buy 7000 series CPUs thinking they are Zen 4, when they are really Zen 2 or if they're lucky Zen 3.

Mostly people will go for the cheap one, which means a ton of people will be buying 3 year old tech, basically getting suckered.

They've already been doing this with a 5700U that is Zen 2 lined up next to the 5800U which is Zen 3. Even most enthusiasts are not aware of this, I've seen plenty of people saying 5700U is Zen 3 when it is not. It is nothing more than a 4700U with a higher frequency. An honest company would have named it 4750U or something along those lines, they intentionally changed the first number to make it appear more modern.

They are doing the same thing with some rebranded desktop CPUs now as well, the 3100 rebranded to 4100 and the 3500 rebranded to 4500. People are not going to know they are buying 3 year old processors. Even a lot of enthusiasts won't know this.

 

[Xeanoa]

Clear and concise, straight-forward and informative.
I like it.

 

[RandallFlagg]

Just watched this, and seriously this new naming is stupid:

Case in point to my earlier post about 5700U/5800U below from comments on your video. AMDs naming practices are easily the most deceptive thing I've seen in decades.

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

"Ohhhh, YOU!!"

 

[Space Lynx]

I have no issues with this naming thing, Intel names look just as silly half the time in mobile sector, due to the variation of so many wattages and tier groups.

 

[Nanochip]

Still confusing.

The first symbol should be correlated to the generation (zen 4 or zen5), model year is unimportant.

Next important is the sku/segment e.g., ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9.

A zen 3 chip released in 2023 would get the same leading ‘7’ as a zen 4 chip produced in the same year. That’s confusing.

 

[Deleted member 185088]

Buying laptops is getting very confusing.

 

[Fouquin]

This is obviously very deceptive and underhanded practice AMD has been embarking on.

People are going to go out and buy 7000 series CPUs thinking they are Zen 4, when they are really Zen 2 or if they're lucky Zen 3.

Mostly people will go for the cheap one, which means a ton of people will be buying 3 year old tech, basically getting suckered.

They've already been doing this with a 5700U that is Zen 2 lined up next to the 5800U which is Zen 3. Even most enthusiasts are not aware of this, I've seen plenty of people saying 5700U is Zen 3 when it is not. It is nothing more than a 4700U with a higher frequency. An honest company would have named it 4750U or something along those lines, they intentionally changed the first number to make it appear more modern.

They are doing the same thing with some rebranded desktop CPUs now as well, the 3100 rebranded to 4100 and the 3500 rebranded to 4500. People are not going to know they are buying 3 year old processors. Even a lot of enthusiasts won't know this.

Except according to the naming convention if it's a 7000 labeled chip, it's a 2023 release. I don't see AMD releasing more Zen 2 mobile parts in 2023 that could possible fit your complaint.

Also, with the 5700U it does not matter that it's Zen 2 vs Zen 3 because it fits the performance tier and offers identical features to Zen 3. The IPC uplift of Zen 3 was made without any radical changes to what the architecture offered to consumers, so from the consumer perspective Zen 2 and Zen 3 are identical. AMD makes clear that the 5700U is slower than a 5800U, and when tested side by side those claims hold true. Literally no deception whatsoever.

 

[Beer4Myself]

This is obviously very deceptive and underhanded practice AMD has been embarking on.

People are going to go out and buy 7000 series CPUs thinking they are Zen 4, when they are really Zen 2 or if they're lucky Zen 3.

Mostly people will go for the cheap one, which means a ton of people will be buying 3 year old tech, basically getting suckered.

They've already been doing this with a 5700U that is Zen 2 lined up next to the 5800U which is Zen 3. Even most enthusiasts are not aware of this, I've seen plenty of people saying 5700U is Zen 3 when it is not. It is nothing more than a 4700U with a higher frequency. An honest company would have named it 4750U or something along those lines, they intentionally changed the first number to make it appear more modern.

They are doing the same thing with some rebranded desktop CPUs now as well, the 3100 rebranded to 4100 and the 3500 rebranded to 4500. People are not going to know they are buying 3 year old processors. Even a lot of enthusiasts won't know this.

small correction on the 4700u ... you mean the 4800u because the 4700u is a 8c/8t chip and the 4800u is the multithreaded part

 

[OC-Ghost]

Nice but the first number is short sighted vs the rest, that will work for a long time

 

[RandallFlagg]

Except according to the naming convention if it's a 7000 labeled chip, it's a 2023 release. I don't see AMD releasing more Zen 2 mobile parts in 2023 that could possible fit your complaint.

Also, with the 5700U it does not matter that it's Zen 2 vs Zen 3 because it fits the performance tier and offers identical features to Zen 3. The IPC uplift of Zen 3 was made without any radical changes to what the architecture offered to consumers, so from the consumer perspective Zen 2 and Zen 3 are identical. AMD makes clear that the 5700U is slower than a 5800U, and when tested side by side those claims hold true. Literally no deception whatsoever.

People like you defending clearly indefensible underhanded practices of a major corporation out of a mindless brand loyalty is frankly disgusting. Tons of people are going to go out and buy these laptops thinking they are the latest and greatest after reading a Zen 4 review.

If Intel rebranded a gen 10 Skylake part to 12XXX you'd be all over them. Go ahead and lie and tell me you wouldn't.

 

[Fouquin]

People like you defending clearly indefensible underhanded practices of a major corporation out of a mindless brand loyalty is frankly disgusting.

You're way too far up in the clouds on your high horse, bring it back down to Earth.

Tons of people are going to go out and buy these laptops thinking they are the latest and greatest after reading a Zen 4 review.

Based on your unfounded assertion that AMD is definitely going to release Zen 2 chips under the 7000 series? The precedent you present in your argument is already out of date. With the 6000 series, Rembrandt, all of the chips released were Zen3+ and current generation.

If Intel rebranded a gen 10 Skylake part to 12XXX you'd be all over them. Go ahead and lie and tell me you wouldn't.

Except again, Zen 2 and Zen 3 are architecturally similar and offer the same sets of features to the end user. Skylake and Alder Lake do not, and cannot be compared equally on any view point be it performance, power efficiency, instruction support or security. As it stands Intel did exactly what you're complaining about with Skylake for 5 full years; re-releasing the same unchanged architecture and claiming it was a generational improvement. So bringing Intel into the conversation isn't exactly helpful.

 

[Chrispy_]

So fucking dumb, because it is specific to mobile parts and contradicts the desktop parts' system of model naming. The only purpose of this madness is to disguise outdated shit with Zen2 and Vega graphics as a new product and hope to scam someone into paying 2022 prices.

2019 called, they want their stuff ba-
Hang on, now 2017 is calling 2019 asking for Vega architecture back; This is getting complicated...

 

[zlobby]

This is obviously very deceptive and underhanded practice AMD has been embarking on.

People are going to go out and buy 7000 series CPUs thinking they are Zen 4, when they are really Zen 2 or if they're lucky Zen 3.

Mostly people will go for the cheap one, which means a ton of people will be buying 3 year old tech, basically getting suckered.

They've already been doing this with a 5700U that is Zen 2 lined up next to the 5800U which is Zen 3. Even most enthusiasts are not aware of this, I've seen plenty of people saying 5700U is Zen 3 when it is not. It is nothing more than a 4700U with a higher frequency. An honest company would have named it 4750U or something along those lines, they intentionally changed the first number to make it appear more modern.

They are doing the same thing with some rebranded desktop CPUs now as well, the 3100 rebranded to 4100 and the 3500 rebranded to 4500. People are not going to know they are buying 3 year old processors. Even a lot of enthusiasts won't know this.

Case in point to my earlier post about 5700U/5800U below from comments on your video. AMDs naming practices are easily the most deceptive thing I've seen in decades.

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Still confusing.

The first symbol should be correlated to the generation (zen 4 or zen5), model year is unimportant.

Next important is the sku/segment e.g., ryzen 7 or Ryzen 9.

A zen 3 chip released in 2023 would get the same leading ‘7’ as a zen 4 chip produced in the same year. That’s confusing.

Buying laptops is getting very confusing.

Then stay away from AMD laptops for crying out loud!

Commenting on TPU suggest a certain knowledge of all things computer, yet you are confused? Then what about the average Joe who was told 'Here, take this. It's intel, they are the best!', hm?

AMD made it loud and clear. It's now up to the discretion of every reseller to advise their customers right, or up to the customers to do their due dilligence. Always was and always will be.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Why can't they just keep it simple.

2023R5Z4Uw55
2023R3Z3Lw35
2023ASZ3Lw28
2023AGZ3Uw15
2024R9Z4Lw09

 

[Mawkzin]

Based on your unfounded assertion that AMD is definitely going to release Zen 2 chips under the 7000 series? The precedent you present in your argument is already out of date. With the 6000 series, Rembrandt, all of the chips released were Zen3+ and current generation.

When AMD launched 6000 series they released 5000 series updated, thats why you can't see a 6000 series with zen3/vega, but if they used this new naming schemed you could see 6000 with zen3+/rdna2 alongside zen3/vega.

 

[persondb]

Except according to the naming convention if it's a 7000 labeled chip, it's a 2023 release. I don't see AMD releasing more Zen 2 mobile parts in 2023 that could possible fit your complaint.

Except they are going to release new Zen 2 mobile parts in 2023.

Also, with the 5700U it does not matter that it's Zen 2 vs Zen 3 because it fits the performance tier and offers identical features to Zen 3. The IPC uplift of Zen 3 was made without any radical changes to what the architecture offered to consumers, so from the consumer perspective Zen 2 and Zen 3 are identical. AMD makes clear that the 5700U is slower than a 5800U, and when tested side by side those claims hold true. Literally no deception whatsoever.

No, the difference in performance can be pretty big, with a 5600U being better in many things(single threaded stuff) and basically the same or almost the same in others(multi threaded) and enjoying a bit better energy efficiency while at it.

 

[GhostRyder]

Well I do like some of this, I mean at least it will be much more understandable so you know what your buying (Albeit, may need a chart to understand lol). My only main concern is the 2nd and 4th digit. I wish there would be no overlap on the second digit (IE like how the "8" can mean Ryzen 7 or 9) and how some series have multiple ones in the segment as that can be a bit confusing. I would prefer they added more to the 4th digit instead (Like 3, 5, 7, and 9 depending on how many they need) as that would then make it obvious which variant in the segment you have and be (At least in my opinion) a little more clean to understand.

Although I still would call that a bit confusing. I almost find the year part unnecessary, because I don't see much of a point as they could just do the architecture and everyone should understand (Plus could add numbers to show improvements if they change the architecture and make it different/improved).

 

[Nanochip]

Then stay away from AMD laptops for crying out loud!

Commenting on TPU suggest a certain knowledge of all things computer, yet you are confused? Then what about the average Joe who was told 'Here, take this. It's intel, they are the best!', hm?

AMD made it loud and clear. It's now up to the discretion of every reseller to advise their customers right, or up to the customers to do their due dilligence. Always was and always will be.

So according to your “logic” those who Disagree with a company’s direction should be quiet and not otherwise voice our opinions or concerns? Luckily, we live in a society where such censorship is not law.

 

[1d10t]

What's up with
4 : Architecture
Reserved for
1 : Zen 1 / Zen +

Are you gonna refresh that slow poke 2200U and 3200U? It was really unnecessary to beat that dead horse Celeron and Pentiums.