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AMD Readies 16-core, 12-core, and 8-core Ryzen 7000X3D "Zen 4" Processors

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AMD is firing full cylinders to release a new line of Ryzen 7000-series "Zen 4" Socket AM5 desktop processors featuring 3D Vertical Cache, at the earliest. Faced with a significant drop in demand due to the slump in the PC industry, and renewed competition from Intel in the form of its 13th Gen Core "Raptor Lake" processors, the company is looking to launch the Ryzen 7000X3D desktop processors within January 2023, with product unveiling expected at AMD's 2023 International CES event. The 3D Vertical Cache technology had a profound impact on the gaming performance of the older "Zen 3" architecture, bringing it up to levels competitive with those of the 12th Gen Core "Alder Lake" processors, and while gaming performance of the Ryzen 7000 "Zen 4" processors launched till take match or beat "Alder Lake," they fall behind those of the 13th Gen "Raptor Lake," which is exactly what AMD hopes to remedy with the Ryzen 7000X3D series.

In a report, Korean tech publication Quasar Zone states that AMD is planning to release 16-core/32-thread, 12-core/24-thread, and 8-core/16-thread SKUs in the Ryzen 7000X3D series. These would use one or two "Zen 4" chiplets with stacked 3D Vertical Cache memory. A large amount of cache memory operating at the same speed as the on-die L3 cache, is made contiguous with it and stacked on top of the region of the CCD (chiplet) that has the L3 cache, while the region with the CPU cores has structural silicon that conveys heat to the surface. On "Zen 3," the 32 MB on-die cache is appended with 64 MB of stacked cache memory operating at the same speed, giving the processor 96 MB of L3 cache that's uniformly accessible by all CPU cores on the CCD. This large cache memory positively impacts gaming performance on the Ryzen 7 5800X3D in comparison to the 5800X; and a similar uplift is expected for the 7000X3D series over their regular 7000-series counterparts.



The naming of these 7000X3D series SKUs is uncertain. It's possible that the 16-core part is called the 7950X3D, and the 12-core part 7900X3D; but the 8-core part may either be called the 7700X3D or 7800X3D. Quasar Zone also posted some theoretical performance projections for the 7950X3D based on the kind of performance uplifts 3DV cache yielded for "Zen 3" in the 5800X3D. According to these, the theoretical 7950X3D would easily match or beat the gaming performance of the Core i9-13900K, which begins to explain why Intel is scampering to launch the faster Core i9-13900KS with a boost frequency of 6.00 GHz or higher. The report also confirms that there won't be a 6-core/12-thread 7600X3D as previously thought.

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No 7600X3D yet there will be a 7950X3D seems a bit odd. I wonder what the pricing for these cpu's will be.

my guess is...

$450 7800x3d, $599 7900 X3D, and $799 7950x3d
 
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Brace yourselves

e-peen incoming

my 13600kf and 6800xt is already maxxing out everything i throw i at at 165hz 165 fps 1440p. Unless I start playing more demanding games, I may never need to upgrade again.

Anything above these mid-range options is strictly for high refresh 4k gamers imo.


that being said, I might be stupid and get a 7900 xtx :D
 
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my 13600kf and 6800xt is already maxxing out everything i throw i at at 165hz 165 fps 1440p. Unless I start playing more demanding games, I may never need to upgrade again.

Anything above these mid-range options is strictly for high refresh 4k gamers imo.


that being said, I might be stupid and get a 7900 xtx :D
Yea, if you already have current gen gear, there is really not much need to upgrade except to satisfy one's epeen.
 

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Yea, if you already have current gen gear, there is really not much need to upgrade except to satisfy one's epeen.

I would like to be able to play like Cyberpunk 2077 and RDR2 at 165hz 165 fps maxed out... BUT i am ok with putting settings on medium to make that happen... so eh. lol
 
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Something isn't right. The 7950X is the last cpu in the new AMD lineup that anyone with an IQ above 100 would purchase for a gaming build yet AMD is making a X3D version of that cpu while skipping the 7600X which would seem to be the go-to cpu for most gamers looking at a new AMD build.
 

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Something isn't right. The 7950X is the last cpu in the new AMD lineup that anyone with an IQ above 100 would purchase for a gaming build yet AMD is making a X3D version of that cpu
Most likely because people use their computers for more than one thing. The 16 core 3D version isn't the obvious choice for most of us even if we have the money to spend, but AMD kind of have to sell this, otherwise people have to choose between top gaming performance or top non-gaming performance. You shouldn't have to compromise when you buy the most expensive model.
while skipping the 7600X which would seem to be the go-to cpu for most gamers looking at a new AMD build.
This is a premium feature, not really aimed for most gamers. Intel have had less cache on mid range and slower CPU's for decades.
 
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Most likely because people use their computers for more than one thing. The 16 core 3D version isn't the obvious choice for most of us even if we have the money to spend, but AMD kind of have to sell this, otherwise people have to choose between top gaming performance or top non-gaming performance. You shouldn't have to compromise when you buy the most expensive model.

This is a premium feature, not really aimed for most gamers. Intel have had less cache on mid range and slower CPU's for decades.
The 5800X3D is great at gaming yet sucks at everything else.
 
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Hopefully with this beast of a cpu, Intel will be forced to lower prices on their current higher end CPU's so I can take advantage of.
 
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No 7600X3D yet there will be a 7950X3D seems a bit odd. I wonder what the pricing for these cpu's will be.

Yeah, maybe along with the 7900X version too, make much more sense if it was the lower as they are about the best for games and others are more targeted at none gaming needs.
 

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As long as they dont throw stupid wattages at these, they should be incredibly popular

Since its still 8 cores per die, they could even do a 2x6 core version with 2 cores disabled on each die but the full cache, and have an efficiency/gaming monster
 
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Yeah, maybe along with the 7900X version too, make much more sense if it was the lower as they are about the best for games and others are more targeted at none gaming needs.
This ^^ .. a 7600X3D / 7700X3D makes perfect sense ... 7950X3D is just weird.
 

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Since its still 8 cores per die, they could even do a 2x6 core version with 2 cores disabled on each die but the full cache, and have an efficiency/gaming monster
12-core part 7900X3D
Seems about right.

I don't know why not the 7950X3D unless it clocks lower than the 7800X3D - full power of 32 threads with plenty of L3. If inter CCD latency is an issue just play with process lasso.
 

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Something isn't right. The 7950X is the last cpu in the new AMD lineup that anyone with an IQ above 100 would purchase for a gaming build yet AMD is making a X3D version of that cpu while skipping the 7600X which would seem to be the go-to cpu for most gamers looking at a new AMD build.

Budget vs elite. If i had the dough id build a 7000 Threadripper Pro with a RX 7950XTX Toxic.
 

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Throw in a big white case along with 69 RGB fans and you'd be the model AMD owner.
I have a Bruiser case with Green and Blue Fans lol
 

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I don't know why not the 7950X3D unless it clocks lower than the 7800X3D - full power of 32 threads with plenty of L3. If inter CCD latency is an issue just play with process lasso.
I agree, people are acting dramatic about this model yet no one really knows yet what kind of improvements it can bring. (This is where someone will give me a link to the 7773X review at Phoronix)

No worries, there's a way out: don't buy it. :D

And I still don't buy that whole "people only use their CPU for productivity OR gaming" nonsense.
 
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Been waiting for some inspiration, and there it is. 7950X3D for me, and the eight core variant for the wife. Noice!
 
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Personally I never expected a 7600X3D for the same reason we never saw a 5600X3D. You cant sell that much higher than a 5600X or 5800X.

5800X3D is still selling quiet high in some places about the same price has the 7700X here in local markets.

From a business point of view I would not make a 5600X3D or 7600X3D. You would be hurting your higher priced SKUs.

Lets see if there are any improvements VS the first ZEN 3 X3D maybe better clocks and overclocking on these new ZEN 4 X3Ds vs the 5800X3D lower clocks.
 
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