NVIDIA's Supply Cut Could Spark Price Hike for RTX 40 Series

[Raysterize]

I'm half way through building a new budget PC and will be getting a AMD Ryzen 5700X for the CPU but for the graphics card... not sure yet. I think I'm going to wait and see if the Geforce RTX 5060 is a 12GB card, If so I'll be buying that. If not then I'll probably buy a AMD Radeon RX 6800.

The Geforce RTX 4060, 4060 Ti 8GB and 16GB need some serious discount before I'd consider buying any of them.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

Lol. Not a very smart decision to buy a 4080 or a 4090 this late in the cycle, unless your current card has fried or something. On the other hand...

This also strikes me as wrong, as I don't remember a single high-end launch in the last, what, 5 or 6 years already, where it paid anything to not try and get the card you want day1. If anything, it often gets worse, like it did with rtx3000/rx6000 or 1080ti with their insane mining-boom prices.

Middle-/low-end sure, worth the wait, but if you're gunning for a flagship, trying to pre-order it for MSRP seems to be the correct move.

The last 5 or 6 years has only had one or two crytpboom & scalpers. Before 2017 &/or maybe 2020 Pc gaming was a niche thing, so demand could rise & fall with less other interactions upon it.
Specifically speaking scalpers can only make prices high when demand is high if no one is buying then demand is gone no price increase.
Most of the time Nvidia just slows down production to limited amounts to make artificial "limited supply" to keep their prices the same.

 

[kapone32]

That's because the 4090 isn't competing with the 7900xtx and people who spend that money for a 4090 already have the budget for an entire computer.

Just checked pcpartpicker, it's 30$ between a 4080 super and a 7900xtx.

I see that you are that in tune that you know that everyone is buying a 4090 because they can afford it. The mindshare is strong but you know what is stronger to make the 4090 viable? AI and China. So when you talk about Nvidia mindshare remember that China ( A country positioned with Russia) is bigger than any snot nosed Gamer that gets Nvidia for RT because they want it. It does not matter though as AMD has something that Intel can't reproduce and Nvidia have no avenue. Handhelds are the new channel and will make sure that R&D goes into AMD where AMD summarily have better software for the user than Nvidia.

 

[fevgatos]

AMD summarily have better software for the user than Nvidia.

You aren't serious, are you? What?

Handhelds are 90+% going with nvidia. Wait for switch 2 and see the sales compared to other handhelds

 

[kapone32]

You aren't serious, are you? What?

Handhelds are 90+% going with nvidia. Wait for switch 2 and see the sales compared to other handhelds

Nintendo is not a PC handheld. What you don't seem to understand is that Steam, EPIC and GOG are the focus of these and the Switch does not count. That is all console money. Give it time and we may see Steam overtake them too. I will even give you another reason the Steam Deck and other Windows handhelds will be viable. Those gray market retro console drives are very popular and the more expensive ones even have the latest Nintendo Games making the Switch a moot point. There is also the fact that Nintendo is as seen as something that is for kids. There are plenty of Steam Games that would not be allowed on Nintendo's platform.

So yes the Switch has a huge lead but I look at handhleds the way I look at Vehicles. More young people ride those electric scooters than drive cars, That has led to a run on Car Companies.

Nintendo is not a PC handheld. What you don't seem to understand is that Steam, EPIC and GOG are the focus of these and the Switch does not count. That is all console money. Give it time and we may see Steam overtake them too. I will even give you another reason the Steam Deck and other Windows handhelds will be viable. Those gray market retro console drives are very popular and the more expensive ones even have the latest Nintendo Games making the Switch a moot point. There is also the fact that Nintendo is as seen as something that is for kids. There are plenty of Steam Games that would not be allowed on Nintendo's platform.

So yes the Switch has a huge lead but I look at handhleds the way I look at Vehicles. More young people ride those electric scooters than drive cars, That has led to a run on Car Companies.

I forgot to mention software. What I am talking about is AMD software package with more knobs and levers you can shake a stick at. To the point where Hyper RX is just using the ones best suited to the Application. I don't have to use MSI Afterburner and take a hit on performance so that I can see my FPS, Micro Stutter, 99%, Average Frame time, Board Power of the GPU, Voltage and so on.

 

[fevgatos]

Nintendo is not a PC handheld.

Thank god for that, can get 10-11 hours of battery life. Playing games. Or streaming them from my PC with nvidia gamestream.

I forgot to mention software. What I am talking about is AMD software package with more knobs and levers you can shake a stick at. To the point where Hyper RX is just using the ones best suited to the Application. I don't have to use MSI Afterburner and take a hit on performance so that I can see my FPS, Micro Stutter, 99%, Average Frame time, Board Power of the GPU, Voltage and so on.

If your PC takes a hit using MSI afterburner...oh boy.

But you don't need msi afterburner, GFE has all that build in.

 

[kapone32]

Thank god for that, can get 10-11 hours of battery life. Playing games. Or streaming them from my PC with nvidia gamestream.

I see

Nvidia’s GameStream is dead. Sunshine and Moonlight are great replacements.

What started as a hackathon project is now a full-fledged streaming platform.

arstechnica.com

Thank god for that, can get 10-11 hours of battery life. Playing games. Or streaming them from my PC with nvidia gamestream.


If your PC takes a hit using MSI afterburner...oh boy.

But you don't need msi afterburner, GFE has all that build in.

I don't even have it installed.

 

[fevgatos]

Nvidia’s GameStream is dead. Sunshine and Moonlight are great replacements.

What started as a hackathon project is now a full-fledged streaming platform.

arstechnica.com

The client part is dead. The host is fine, you don't need moonlight. Here you go

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