ASRock Formally Launches its AMD X870E and X870 Chipset Motherboards

[btarunr]

ASRock, the global leading manufacturer of motherboards, graphics cards, mini PCs, and gaming monitors, today announced a full line-up of flagship to mainstream motherboards using the AMD X870E/X870 series chipset, which is designed expressly for the latest AMD Ryzen 9000 series processors using AM5 socket. New motherboards include the flagship series X870E Taichi and Taichi Lite, newly introduced flagship Phantom Gaming X870E Nova WiFi, mainstream gaming X870 Riptide WiFi, plus the always popular X870 Steel Legend WiFi, X870 Pro RS and Pro RS WiFi, which are both now available in a white design.

All the new ASRock X870E/X870 motherboards, from the flagship Taichi series to the mainstream Steel Legend and Pro RS WiFi, feature a highly robust design for extreme performance. The Taichi series combines SPS Dr.MOS power delivery of up to 24+2+1 phases, server-grade 8-layer PCBs enabling excellent memory overclocking up to DDR5-8200, and exclusive low-ripple 1000μf 20K black capacitors that guarantee stable and superior performance for the CPU.



Blazing Speed IO with DIY-friendly Designs
All boards include both PCI-Express Gen-5 GPU and Blazing M.2 (Gen5x4) SSD ports, along with two USB4 Type-C ports on the rear I/O for external peripherals requiring extreme speeds. Their DIY-friendly design includes an EZ release graphics card slot and toolless M.2 heatsink installation, simplifying system setup. ASRock even provides an additional heatsink pre-installed under the M.2 SSD, which can significantly reduce PCI-Express Gen-5 SSD temperatures to help prevent thermal throttling. All motherboards include the BIOS Flashback function, accessible via the rear I/O, allowing for effortless BIOS updates even without the CPU and memory installed.

ASRock Patented Connectivity Innovation
Networking includes the latest and fastest WiFi 7 (802.11be) 2x2, offering next-generation multi-gigabit speeds and low-latency throughput that's ideal for gaming and wireless VR headsets. ASRock's optimized 5 Gbps LAN on X870E series motherboards boasts a patented design for superior EMI resistance, ensuring high-speed and stable performance.

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[Cheeseball]

I got a X870E Taichi Lite coming in by Oct. 3. If it's just like last years B650E Taichi Lite (this time with a real USB4v1 controller), it should be just as good.

 

[Space Lynx]

"exclusive low-ripple 1000μf 20K black capacitors" interesting, my asrock b650 came with 20k black capacitors too, must not be 1000uf, otherwise the exclusive term wouldn't mean anything

who knows with marketing companies these days. I love my asrock b650 steel legend, I have no need for anything else really

 

[Bagerklestyne]

I got a X870E Taichi Lite coming in by Oct. 3. If it's just like last years B650E Taichi Lite (this time with a real USB4v1 controller), it should be just as good.

What was wrong with the one on the B650E ?

 

[Metroid]

It has been available to buy since last monday where i live. I will wait arrow lake and see how it performs before I decide.

 

[Hxx]

No mini itx

 

[Chaitanya]

I remember videos on youtube about Asrock X870 boards for couple of days. Their "Lite" series certainly is an oasis in desert full of RGB filled garbage and manufactured ewaste(boards that barely can handle mid-Range cpu at stock setting from either CPU maker).

 

[ymdhis]

No mATX.

 

[Cheeseball]

What was wrong with the one on the B650E ?

TB4 controller, Intel JHL8540 (limited to PCI-E 3.0 x4, 32Gbps). All the X870/X870Es now use ASMedia's ASM2464PD which is USB4v1 and has PCI-E tunneling of PCI-E 4.0 x4 (64Gbps, but will at least have a max of 40Gbps).

 

[Zubasa]

TB4 controller, Intel JHL8540 (limited to PCI-E 3.0 x4, 32Gbps). All the X870/X870Es now use ASMedia's ASM2464PD which is USB4v1 and has PCI-E tunneling of PCI-E 4.0 x4 (64Gbps, but will at least have a max of 40Gbps).

Also, since the Asmedia controller runs on PCIE 4.0 x4, it can provide 32Gbps for both USB4 ports concurrently.

 

[Bagerklestyne]

TB4 controller, Intel JHL8540 (limited to PCI-E 3.0 x4, 32Gbps). All the X870/X870Es now use ASMedia's ASM2464PD which is USB4v1 and has PCI-E tunneling of PCI-E 4.0 x4 (64Gbps, but will at least have a max of 40Gbps).

That would explain why I didn't see the issue, I didn't have anything fast enough to tap it out fully. Guess I better dig into what power it can supply now not that I am trying to run a laptop or anything psychotic on it

 

[Zubasa]

That would explain why I didn't see the issue, I didn't have anything fast enough to tap it out fully. Guess I better dig into what power it can supply now not that I am trying to run a laptop or anything psychotic on it

The Asrock boards all have standard 5V@3A for 15W PD.

Edit: Now that you mentioned Laptops. The Asmedia USB4 controller on my Legion Go also supports 20G network.
My friend found out when he curiously plugged his Legion Go into mine. Could be quite niffty for file transfers.

 

[_roman_]

Finally 5GBps LAN on the expensive Mainboard front.


Well nice advertisement hoax ASROCK.

Mainboard X870E Nova WiFi, 16 Lanes PCIE 3.0 Adverised, https://www.asrock.com/microsite/AMDX800/
Detail Page claims only 2 electrical lanes for the PCIE 3.0 - 16 lanes slot, https://pg.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X870E Nova WiFi/index.asp#Specification


Same for this board - 16 Lanes advertised, https://www.asrock.com/microsite/AMDX800/
Detail Page claims only 4 electrical lanes for the PCIE 4.0 - 16 lanes slot, https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X870 Steel Legend WiFi/index.asp#Specification


When I read PCIE 3.0 16 Lanes slot I think I see a mainboard from 5 or 10 years ago. It's technically outdated.
When I see PCIE 3.0 or PCIE 4.0 with 16 lanes - I expect to get a board with fully 16 lanes electrically wired, as advertised on the mainpage.

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"Exclusive 20K CAP with 1000uF Capacitance" ... increase from 560uF

What nonsense. No temperature rating or Voltage rating given for those capacitors. It's just another size for a capacitor. It's not really a big capacitor in the first place. A big capacitor is for example a 1F one.

 

[Tek-Check]

The Asrock boards all have standard 5V@3A for 15W PD.

Edit: Now that you mentioned Laptops. The Asmedia USB4 controller on my Legion Go also supports 20G network.
My friend found out when he curiously plugged his Legion Go into mine. Could be quite niffty for file transfers.

Is it 20G in each direction? Any screenshots of transfer rates?

 

[Zubasa]

Is it 20G in each direction? Any screenshots of transfer rates?

My friend never tested the actual throughput, but it is what Windows11 shows in the USB4 page in settings. It also shows up as an ethernet in control panel.
Microsoft does have documentation on it, so I assume it should just work as part of the spec.
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/w...onent-guidelines/usb4-interdomain-connections

 

[Cheeseball]

Is it 20G in each direction? Any screenshots of transfer rates?

Here, off my Legion Go. This is from a UGREEN USB4 external drive. It can run ADT-UT3G up to nearly 40 Gbps on either of the USB4 ports, as opposed to the 32 Gbps from a TB3/TB4 eGPU.

 

[Zubasa]

Here, off my Legion Go. This is from a UGREEN USB4 external drive. It can run ADT-UT3G up to nearly 40 Gbps on either of the USB4 ports, as opposed to the 32 Gbps from a TB3/TB4 eGPU.

I think he is asking specificly the throughput in USB4 network mode.
The guys over at epgu.io forums have also done plently of testing that USB4 could get higher throughput in pcie mode than TB with a proper USB4 client.
I am pretty sure they are tesing the same chip in the ADT-UT3G as well.

 

[Cheeseball]

I think he is asking specificly the throughput in USB4 network mode.
The guys over at epgu.io forums have also done plently of testing that USB4 could get higher throughput in pcie mode than TB with a proper USB4 client.
I am pretty sure they are tesing the same chip in the ADT-UT3G as well.

Ah I see. That I have not tried yet myself.

Do I just use an USB4/TB3/4 cable between two USB4 devices and see if they engage USB4NET?

 

[Zubasa]

Ah I see. That I have not tried yet myself.

Do I just use an USB4/TB3/4 cable between two USB4 devices and see if they engage USB4NET?

Yes, that is exactly what me friend did, he just conntected 2 USB4 hosts (in this case Legion Gos) with a USB4 cable.
In Microsoft's doc, it acts basically like any ethernet.

 

[Cheeseball]

Yes, that is exactly what me friend did, he just conntected 2 USB4 hosts (in this case Legion Gos) with a USB4 cable.
In Microsoft's doc, it acts basically like any ethernet.
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Yup, can confirm it on my end too. (GPD Win Mini 2023 & Legion Go with a USB-IF compliant 40 Gbps cable)

 

[Bagerklestyne]

How's the latency compared to RJ45 implementations ?

 

[Cheeseball]

How's the latency compared to RJ45 implementations ?

Not sure if this was a good way to test this, but here is a simple ping test between my two devices:



The device I ran ping from is this:

 

[Zubasa]

Not sure if this was a good way to test this, but here is a simple ping test between my two devices:

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The device I ran ping from is this:
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Try tesing with something like iperf3. That will also meassure throughput etc.

 

[Cheeseball]

Try tesing with something like iperf3. That will also meassure throughput etc.

Hope this is informative to anyone interested:


LOL we're a bit off topic

 

[TheLostSwede]

Also, since the Asmedia controller runs on PCIE 4.0 x4, it can provide 32Gbps for both USB4 ports concurrently.

No it doesn't, USB4 doesn't have a 32 Gbps mode.
However, it can do 40 Gbps on one port and 20 Gbps on the other.
Or if you want to be picky, about 38.79 and 19.39 Gbps.
The reason Thunderbolt 3/4 claims 40 Gbps, is because it can do 32 Gbps of data plus 8 Gbps DisplayPort at the same time, since DP is not tunneled in Thunderbolt 3/4.

Hope this is informative to anyone interested:
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LOL we're a bit off topic

Looks like 10 Gbps.

Can you try with -w 4M or -P 4 or maybe 8 ?

It forces larger data chunks or parallel transmits.