ASRock Formally Launches its AMD X870E and X870 Chipset Motherboards

[Tek-Check]

Here, off my Legion Go. This is from a UGREEN USB4 external drive. It can run ADT-UT3G up to nearly 40 Gbps on either of the USB4 ports, as opposed to the 32 Gbps from a TB3/TB4 eGPU.

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I asked about network transfer speed, not external drive speed over USB4/PCIe interface.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I asked about network transfer speed, not external drive speed over USB4/PCIe interface.

Which was provided if you kept reading.

 

[Zubasa]

No it doesn't, USB4 doesn't have a 32 Gbps mode.
However, it can do 40 Gbps on one port and 20 Gbps on the other.
Or if you want to be picky, about 38.79 and 19.39 Gbps.
The reason Thunderbolt 3/4 claims 40 Gbps, is because it can do 32 Gbps of data plus 8 Gbps DisplayPort at the same time, since DP is not tunneled in Thunderbolt 3/4.

What happens when you plug a TB3/4 device into a USB4 host? Or does it run at 20Gbps or 32+8?
Also isn't TB3 actually limited to around 22Gbps throughput for data, with the rest being taken up by display singal etc?

 

[TheLostSwede]

What happens when you plug a TB3/4 device into a USB4 host? Or does it run at 20Gbps or 32+8?
Also isn't TB3 actually limited to around 22Gbps throughput for data, with the rest being taken up by display singal etc?

USB4 has a TB3 fallback mode, but it's no longer working with USB4 data rates when a Thunderbolt device is connected, since it's the device that will control the data rate.
Thunderbolt would only be limited if you need more than 8 Gbps for DP, so if you don't have a display connected, it shouldn't be a problem.
DP has priority over data though.

 

[Cheeseball]

No it doesn't, USB4 doesn't have a 32 Gbps mode.
However, it can do 40 Gbps on one port and 20 Gbps on the other.
Or if you want to be picky, about 38.79 and 19.39 Gbps.
The reason Thunderbolt 3/4 claims 40 Gbps, is because it can do 32 Gbps of data plus 8 Gbps DisplayPort at the same time, since DP is not tunneled in Thunderbolt 3/4.


Looks like 10 Gbps.

Can you try with -w 4M or -P 4 or maybe 8 ?

It forces larger data chunks or parallel transmits.

I'll try this out when I get home later as I'm currently at work (I only have the Legion Go with me at the moment). When I ran that earlier, I used:

iperf3.exe -c 169.254.80.24 -P 10 -4 -R

 

[TheLostSwede]

I'll try this out when I get home later as I'm currently at work (I only have the Legion Go with me at the moment). When I ran that earlier, I used:

iperf3.exe -c 169.254.80.24 -P 10 -4 -R

Ah, if you ran 10 parallel streams, then that's fine, so it seems to top out at 10 Gbps at the moment then.

 

[lukart]

I got a X870E Taichi Lite coming in by Oct. 3. If it's just like last years B650E Taichi Lite (this time with a real USB4v1 controller), it should be just as good.

Same here, so happy that they made the Lite version, some one us, that want the very best, don't really need fancy RGB lightning..

 

[Tek-Check]

Ah, if you ran 10 parallel streams, then that's fine, so it seems to top out at 10 Gbps at the moment then.

That's what I thought, rather than 20 Gbps in each direction P2P, despite the fact that 20 Gbps appears on the face value in Windows.
It looks like Windows reads both lanes 2x10Gbps as one.

 

[GSquadron]

Finally 5GBps LAN on the expensive Mainboard front.


Well nice advertisement hoax ASROCK.

Mainboard X870E Nova WiFi, 16 Lanes PCIE 3.0 Adverised, https://www.asrock.com/microsite/AMDX800/
Detail Page claims only 2 electrical lanes for the PCIE 3.0 - 16 lanes slot, https://pg.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X870E Nova WiFi/index.asp#Specification


Same for this board - 16 Lanes advertised, https://www.asrock.com/microsite/AMDX800/
Detail Page claims only 4 electrical lanes for the PCIE 4.0 - 16 lanes slot, https://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/X870 Steel Legend WiFi/index.asp#Specification


When I read PCIE 3.0 16 Lanes slot I think I see a mainboard from 5 or 10 years ago. It's technically outdated.
When I see PCIE 3.0 or PCIE 4.0 with 16 lanes - I expect to get a board with fully 16 lanes electrically wired, as advertised on the mainpage.

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"Exclusive 20K CAP with 1000uF Capacitance" ... increase from 560uF

What nonsense. No temperature rating or Voltage rating given for those capacitors. It's just another size for a capacitor. It's not really a big capacitor in the first place. A big capacitor is for example a 1F one.

I have been searching everywhere for this board and cannot find a single review about it!

 

[kapone32]

I have been searching everywhere for this board and cannot find a single review about it!

Apparently reviews are not live yet.

 

[xastunts]

Guy's a have a question. will this work will with an AMD 7800X3D CPU. I think it will be an overkill, but I have trouble with my current MOBO a Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX. I just can't make it stable. I think it's the damn bios that is so buggy. I'm running it on a very old BIOS F8 And it works best on that bios.

 

[_roman_]

@xastunts It all depends what you consider stable. Which components you use. And where you think the line is for stability for your used components.

May I ask you to make a dedicated topic with details so others may help you.

I believe there will be no hassle free hardware on the amd side. As I mostly use AMD because of the cpu architecture. My software can not run on Intel E-cores.
My ASUS x670 Mainboard has also long term issues - TPM issue - USB boot issues since day one of my purchase in June 2023. I'm certain you will find issues with other amd mainboards also from the other brands. NZXT is mostly ASROCK rebrand afaik.

 

[kapone32]

Guy's a have a question. will this work will with an AMD 7800X3D CPU. I think it will be an overkill, but I have trouble with my current MOBO a Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX. I just can't make it stable. I think it's the damn bios that is so buggy. I'm running it on a very old BIOS F8 And it works best on that bios.

What are your full system specs?

 

[xastunts]

@xastunts It all depends what you consider stable. Which components you use. And where you think the line is for stability for your used components.

May I ask you to make a dedicated topic with details so others may help you.

I believe there will be no hassle free hardware on the amd side. As I mostly use AMD because of the cpu architecture. My software can not run on Intel E-cores.
My ASUS x670 Mainboard has also long term issues - TPM issue - USB boot issues since day one of my purchase in June 2023. I'm certain you will find issues with other amd mainboards also from the other brands. NZXT is mostly ASROCK rebrand afaik.

That's awful to hear that you are having issues with your board as well. Yeah I might create a new thread (topic) regarding my problem. Perhaps jumping on a new mobo this Asrock X870 aint gonna solve nothing.

 

[xastunts]

What are your full system specs?

Like a screenshot from HWinfo64?

 

[xastunts]

@xastunts It all depends what you consider stable. Which components you use. And where you think the line is for stability for your used components.

May I ask you to make a dedicated topic with details so others may help you.

I believe there will be no hassle free hardware on the amd side. As I mostly use AMD because of the cpu architecture. My software can not run on Intel E-cores.
My ASUS x670 Mainboard has also long term issues - TPM issue - USB boot issues since day one of my purchase in June 2023. I'm certain you will find issues with other amd mainboards also from the other brands. NZXT is mostly ASROCK rebrand afaik.

Link to my new thread:
7800X3D with Gigabyte X670 AORUS ELITE AX GREEN SCREEN Crashes without ERROR messages. | TechPowerUp Forums