NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5070 and RTX 5070 Ti Final Specifications Seemingly Confirmed

[Krit]

Orly?
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The 4090 was still and potentially IS still CPU bottlenecked. We are seeing it in real time now with the 9800X3D. In CPU heavy titles like BG3 anyway. Besides, I was comparing with the 4070Ti, since that was the measuring stick the previous poster used.


Yes. And the full AD104 (4070Ti) is around 10% slower than the full GA102 (3090Ti). And I said that I can see the 5070Ti getting in that ballpark. Not sure what you are disagreeing with here.

Comparing GTX 1080Ti to RTX 4090 is complete mismatch and dishonor. GTX 1080 Ti has way, way better price/performance ratio than RTX 4090 in straight comparision. And 8800 GTX / 8800 GT was, way better than even GTX 1080Ti / GTX 1070...... Performance gains were tremendous for almost the same price! Where's the RTX 4090 is complete piece of shit in this region.

 

[nguyen]

Comparing GTX 1080Ti to RTX 4090 is complete mismatch and dishonor. GTX 1080 Ti has way, way better price/performance ratio than RTX 4090 in straight comparision. And 8800 GTX / 8800 GT was, way better than even GTX 1080Ti / GTX 1070...... Performance gains were tremendous for almost the same price! Where's the RTX 4090 is complete piece of shit in this region.

4090 holds the record for the longest uncontested GPU in the entire gaming GPU history, but sure let just go with your made up metrics for why it's bad .

BTW I owned 8800GT and 1080 Ti too, no particular fondness of them because I just buy the next best GPU anyways

 

[Prima.Vera]

4090 holds the record for the longest uncontested GPU in the entire gaming GPU history, but sure let just go with your made up metrics for why it's bad .

BTW I owned 8800GT and 1080 Ti too, no particular fondness of them because I just buy the next best GPU anyways

That's because back in the day they used to release video cards every year, not every 3 years like now.

 

[nguyen]

That's because back in the day they used to release video cards every year, not every 3 years like now.

Meaning back then enthusiasts will buy new GPU every year (I did anyways), so the prices stacked up

 

[Onasi]

@Krit
Bruh, the context is kinda important here. Me and @nguyen were bantering about chips, SKUs and potential stack performance and deltas between both current and future gen cards. We both acknowledged high pricing for incoming cards in that discussion too. Not one of us brought up price/performance as a metric. You invented an argument to go against for no reason. Chill out.

 

[wheresmycar]

Intel introduced the 192-bit 12GB B580, priced at $250, setting a solid foundation for the "lower" performance tier.

The minimum expectation for Nvidia and AMDs Next Gen "mid" perf tier GPUs is nothing short of 256-bit memory interface and 16GB of VRAM. Anything less, would once again, demonstrate a clear disregard for consumer expectations and the need to provide adequate headroom for advancing graphics performance.

Similar to how the standard 4070 was criticized as essentially a masked 4060 T/S, the 5070 appears to be little more than a disguised 5060 T/S.

Putting the 5070 and 5070 TI to the side for the mo, I was hoping to grab a possible 5070 TI SUPER somewhere in the $800 region to top my RTX 3080............ STOOOOPID WISHFUL THINKING!!

 

[gffermari]

You shouldn't stick to spec numbers. 256 or 192bit doesn't say anything to anyone.
All it's about performance (per cost).

 

[Dahita]

Ppls only see one GPU, its like there is no other otions..

How about 5060Ti 16GB or 5070Ti 16GB?

5060Ti for 1440p? That would be their low end GPU, suitable mid-term for 1080p.

The 5070TI would be a good option. What are the chances it will be released at $500? None However, you make me realize that I bought my 2070 SUPER brand new $584.99 at Microcenter in 2019. If I adjust the price with inflation, it represents $724.26 today. So my request is not valid after all. Guess I'm going to have to fork out the money!

 

[Dawora]

-30% too small number of cores to have better ratio.

U are totaly wrong..

5070Ti will be very close to 4090

 

[xnery.007]

I plan to purchase the 5070 Ti, as it seems like a very interesting card considering it uses the GB203 (yes, even though it's cut down compared to the 5080) and has 16GB of VRAM. DLSS4 and other features will be a nice bonus.

I estimate the price at $849, which would be a $50 increase compared to the 4070 Ti SUPER. During the launch of the 4xxx SUPER variants, Nvidia acted very reasonably, as it was their last launch in that series. Based on that, I believe Nvidia will follow a similar approach this time.

Additional reasons:

• It still uses a 256-bit bus
• The 4N(P) node is more advanced than 5nm, but it offers a good price per wafer and excellent yield
• Inflation has stabilized
• GDDR7 isn’t significantly more expensive than GDDR6X

 

[Legacy-ZA]

U are totaly wrong..

5070Ti will be very close to 4090

Nah, the leather jacket man is not that kind, it will most likely land between a 4080S and 4090. I am disappointed that it doesn't have 24GB of VRAM though, 16GB being entry for high resolution gaming, that could have been done with 3GB modules, easily.

At this point, the VRAM issue, is far more than just a nuisance, it's deliberate sabotage out the gate, making sure the GPU's don't last for more than one generation.

 

[gffermari]

The 5070Ti will be +10-15% faster than a 4080. The 16GB is fine for the card.
My issue is the 5080 is heavily butchered. Even more than the 4080.
It's a joke that the 5090 gets 32GB and the second best half of it.
Most likely the greens will release a 5080Ti with 24GB but it appears the x80s are not a high end performance segment anymore (the 3080 is excluded).

 

[Dawora]

Nah, the leather jacket man is not that kind, it will most likely land between a 4080S and 4090. I am disappointed that it doesn't have 24GB of VRAM though, 16GB being entry for high resolution gaming, that could have been done with 3GB modules, easily.

At this point, the VRAM issue, is far more than just a nuisance, it's deliberate sabotage out the gate, making sure the GPU's don't last for more than one generation.

it will be closer to 4090 than 4080S
it can be very close to 4090

IPC gains
more cores
higher core clocks
Huge increase in bandwidth vs 4070Ti

 

[freeagent]

That bandwidth alone is a nice bump, then you have all the other architectural changes. 50 series is gonna be a beast.

 

[igormp]

Nah, the leather jacket man is not that kind, it will most likely land between a 4080S and 4090. I am disappointed that it doesn't have 24GB of VRAM though, 16GB being entry for high resolution gaming, that could have been done with 3GB modules, easily.

At this point, the VRAM issue, is far more than just a nuisance, it's deliberate sabotage out the gate, making sure the GPU's don't last for more than one generation.

The 5070Ti will be +10-15% faster than a 4080. The 16GB is fine for the card.
My issue is the 5080 is heavily butchered. Even more than the 4080.
It's a joke that the 5090 gets 32GB and the second best half of it.
Most likely the greens will release a 5080Ti with 24GB but it appears the x80s are not a high end performance segment anymore (the 3080 is excluded).

One possibility that I can imagine happening down the line is 2 products coming up:
- 5080 Super, exact same die as the 5080 (GB103), but using faster 24Gb GDDR7 modules when those become a thing, for a 24GB GPU.
- 5080Ti, a die cut of the GB102 used in the 5090, with a bus size of 320~448-bit (so between 20 and 28GB of VRAM using 16Gb modules).

This would allow for Nvidia to do a refresh and fill in the existing gap in their lineup (both in performance and price).

 

[AnotherReader]

it will be closer to 4090 than 4080S
it can be very close to 4090

IPC gains
more cores
higher core clocks
Huge increase in bandwidth vs 4070Ti
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I believe you don't realize the enormity of the gap between the 4070 Ti and the 4090. In games like CyberPunk, the 4090 is 64% faster than the 4070 Ti in raytraced scenes at 1440p. It's also 60% faster at 4K in rasterized games. It's extremely unlikely that the 4070 Ti will be close to the 4090.

 

[Visible Noise]

I'm still sticking to my 20yo buying formula, so AMD and NGeedia can do whatever they please.
I buy new GPU when it's 50% faster in rasterization than what I have and costs the same adjusted for inflation.
I got 4070TIS for 700 bucks so the only upgrade path is something in a range of today's 4090 for 720 bucks max.
I don't see anything on horizon that would offer it this gen. So I'll just wait another 2 to 3 years, maybe even 5. No biggie.
If these companies don't want our money anymore and are all in on AI so be it. More than enough good old games I haven't played yet. I can wait.

You’ll be waiting until the end of time. Rasterization is in the past, nobody is investing in it. You’ll never see that 50% at same cost.