AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT "Red Devil" AIB Card Leaks With 900-watt PSU Requirement

[GGforever]

Gamers are eagerly awaiting the launch of the RDNA 4-based Radeon RX 9070 and RX 9070 XT gaming GPUs from AMD, which are widely expected to offer commendable value, thanks to comparatively reasonable prices paired with perfectly admirable raw performance that trades blows with the GeForce RTX 5070 family from NVIDIA. Interestingly, a recently leaked retail box for a PowerColor Red Devil RX 9070 XT GPU has revealed a striking detail - the AIB card will boast a whopping 900-watt requirement for a PSU. This is an absurd number, considering that the ROG Astral RTX 5090 behemoth commands a 1000-watt PSU requirement. While some may deem the image to be fake, or perhaps a typo, AMD's Frank Azor has responded to the tweet, claiming that there will be "plenty" of RX 9070 XT cards with lower PSU requirements.

The packaging also confirms that the upcoming mid-range GPU from AMD will sport 64 CUs, which is hardly a surprise. The Red Devil 9070 XT GPU from PowerColor is a very high-end unit with a 3.0 GHz boost clock and 3x 8-pin power connectors for overclocking headroom, which explains the mammoth 900-watt PSU requirement. As pointed out by Redditors, the Red Devil 7900 XTX also featured a 900-watt PSU requirement, which is 100 watts more than what AMD officially recommends. According to VideoCardz, the PowerColor RX 9070 XT Reaper (reference card) carries a 750-watt PSU requirement, whereas the RX 9070 variant requires a 650-watt PSU. The official launch for the RDNA 4 cards is just around two weeks away, which is when we will finally know for sure.



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[_roman_]

My initial question after reading the headline: how many 900 Watt PSU are there out there?

geizhals.at has only two 900 Watt PSU - the third one is a server psu.

Netzteile & USV Netzteile mit Leistung ab 900W, Leistung bis 900W Preisvergleich Geizhals Österreich

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Netzteile & USV Netzteile mit Leistung ab 900W, Leistung bis 900W

geizhals.at

Searching for 950W was not that easy: https://geizhals.at/?fs=950W+ATX&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk
That gives not many results.

I wonder why they did not wrote 1000 Watt PSU. The only sizes I remember which is used commonly are 850W / 1000W / 1050W

It seems there are more than 275 different PSU available with ATX size with at least 1000 Watt.

Netzteile & USV Netzteile mit Leistung ab 1000W, Formfaktor: ATX Preisvergleich Geizhals Österreich

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Netzteile & USV Netzteile mit Leistung ab 1000W, Formfaktor: ATX

geizhals.at

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Those guys who blamed me for recommending only 1000 Watt PSU were wrong. AMD is also now on the near 1000W PSU.
850W PSU may work. 750W - we will see.

 

[Krit]

Stock RX 7900 XTX only needs 800w psu And Red devil RX 7900 XTX also needs 900w psu.

It should be at least on par with RX 7900 XTX performance wise overclocked completely out of the control.

 

[Dr. Dro]

It's just a high performance design, no need for alarm. It's just not the power sipping, 180 W GPU a lot of people were expecting, though. The regular models will all be around 300 to 350 W power limit, and these enhanced units will likely reach for 450 W and beyond once overclocked.

 

[Shou Miko]

It's just a high performance design, no need for alarm. It's just not the power sipping, 180 W GPU a lot of people were expecting, though. The regular models will all be around 300 to 350 W power limit, and these enhanced units will likely reach for 450 W and beyond once overclocked.

Correct and people should keep in mind it's under "System Specifications" which also means they recommend a 900W for the whole system some people will use a high power draw Intel cpu others will use a X3D or 65W chip so I can understand the requirements.

The other PowerColor models with System Requirements:

• PowerColor RX 9070 Reaper: 650W (2x 8-pin) AMD Reference Specs
• PowerColor RX 9070 XT Reaper: 750W (2x 8-pin) AMD Reference Specs
• PowerColor RX 9070 XT Red Devil: 900W (3x 8-pin) OC Specs

Source: Radeon RX 9070 XT with 64 Compute Units, Red Devil with high PSU requirement

This will be about the same for Sapphire I believe where the RX 9070 XT Pulse will be in the 650-750W range and the Nitro+ will be at the 750-900W if Sapphire doesn't pull out a Toxic for the 900W...

If you don't think I am right ask Edward Crisler from Sapphire even I doubt he will say anything right now until the NDA on the 28th of February

 

[Krit]

I have feeling that RX 9070 XT 3x 8-pin version will beat RTX 5070 Ti even more convincingly than RX 7800 XT 500$ did to RTX 4070 600$ the best question is the price will it be 600$

 

[QuietBob]

Stock RX 7900 XTX only needs 800w psu

Much less in practice. Paired with an efficient gaming CPU it will run without an issue on a quality 650 W unit. Speaking as an owner.

The highest momentary consumption I've recorded for the system in my profile was just about 500 W.

 

[Bomby569]

so another power hog

 

[Dahita]

"An RX 9700 XT featuring HYPR-RX and FidelityFX technology". Feewww, that's a lot of X.

 

[DaemonForce]

It would make sense if the 9070 were MCM but no. With these power levels you'd think we're getting R9 390X2 part 2.
I don't typically care about power consumption of these cards but even I have a minimum bar and this doesn't meet it.
My 580 is a 185W unit that can run on any 450W junker. I have an antique 750W and a modern 1KW to replace it.
The upcoming Red Devil flagship should not be challenging a purchase decision I made just a few months ago. Stuff it.

 

[bonehead123]

Well, I realize that this may sound harsh, but here it is:

HAHAHAHAHAHA SUCKAS !

 

[Nater]

I call bullshit. They're just covering support/warranty claims to weed out all the people using cheap ass 750w/850w power supplies. Otherwise they would have said 850 or 1000 required, if it was actually required.

 

[Scattergrunt]

It's just a high performance design, no need for alarm. It's just not the power sipping, 180 W GPU a lot of people were expecting, though. The regular models will all be around 300 to 350 W power limit, and these enhanced units will likely reach for 450 W and beyond once overclocked.

AGGH!! But alright. I was hoping it was power efficient but its alright.. I wonder what the UV will look like on it.

 

[3valatzy]

so another power hog

It also means high electricity bills, expensive to own, and terrible power efficiency.

It is an absurd. They have the best interest to offer a 250-watt card, no matter the performance deficit, if it be 1 percent, or 2 percent.

 

[Nostras]

I call bullshit. They're just covering support/warranty claims to weed out all the people using cheap ass 750w/850w power supplies. Otherwise they would have said 850 or 1000 required, if it was actually required.

This has been the case since day 1, but I also think this is a bit of a leftover from some years ago where most power supplies would not deliver all power on the 12V rail. Or more nefarious models where this rating was the peak, not continuous. I remember having one with a 4870x2, awful thing.

I'd much prefer manufacturers would stop spreading this bullshit, either accurately describe how much power the GPU uses under full load or just not mention at all.
The amount of misconceptions this brings into the world is ridiculous. Uphill battle every time.

My initial question after reading the headline: how many 900 Watt PSU are there out there?

geizhals.at has only two 900 Watt PSU - the third one is a server psu.

Netzteile & USV Netzteile mit Leistung ab 900W, Leistung bis 900W Preisvergleich Geizhals Österreich

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Netzteile & USV Netzteile mit Leistung ab 900W, Leistung bis 900W

geizhals.at

Searching for 950W was not that easy: https://geizhals.at/?fs=950W+ATX&hloc=at&hloc=de&hloc=eu&hloc=pl&hloc=uk
That gives not many results.

I wonder why they did not wrote 1000 Watt PSU. The only sizes I remember which is used commonly are 850W / 1000W / 1050W

It seems there are more than 275 different PSU available with ATX size with at least 1000 Watt.

Netzteile & USV Netzteile mit Leistung ab 1000W, Formfaktor: ATX Preisvergleich Geizhals Österreich

Preisvergleich und Bewertungen für Netzteile & USV Netzteile mit Leistung ab 1000W, Formfaktor: ATX

geizhals.at

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Those guys who blamed me for recommending only 1000 Watt PSU were wrong. AMD is also now on the near 1000W PSU.
850W PSU may work. 750W - we will see.

The 9070XT triple 8-pin will run fine with a 750W PSU assuming a quality unit, even with a 14900KS overclocked gorging on 250W+.
At this day and age adding huge margins to the final calculations for spikes is not necessary as the quality has gone up considerably.
Prices too I guess.

 

[freeagent]

Normally you have to try fairly hard to tap out a 1000w PSU. So 1200+ is the norm going forward?

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

It also means high electricity bills, expensive to own, and terrible power efficiency.

It is an absurd. They have the best interest to offer a 250-watt card, no matter the performance deficit, if it be 1 percent, or 2 percent.

If you are worried about power bills you shouldnt be buying $600+ GPUs. Period.

Ferrari owners dont cry about the cost of gas.

Normally you have to try fairly hard to tap out a 1000w PSU. So 1200+ is the norm going forward?

No, this is just the normal overspeccing of PSUs to mitigate warranty claims. This has been normal business for the last 15 years at lease. I actually wonder why this is news? What next, people freak out when the recommended specs of a game specify high end CPUs?

 

[Nostras]

Normally you have to try fairly hard to tap out a 1000w PSU. So 1200+ is the norm going forward?

Ask yourself, does a PSU recommendation make sense knowing only the GPU?
Let me word that differently, do PSUs only power a GPU and nothing else?

 

[3valatzy]

If you are worried about power bills you shouldnt be buying $600+ GPUs. Period.

Ferrari owners dont cry about the cost of gas.

If you go for comparisons, RTX 5090 is the "ferrari", this here is like lower-end Skoda.
AMD is scalping hard, inflation also strikes badly.

This GPU should cost not more than 400$. Period.

 

[freeagent]

Ask yourself, does a PSU recommendation make sense knowing only the GPU?
Let me word that differently, do PSUs only power a GPU and nothing else?

If a GPU is clipping 700w, and the rest of your fire breathing system is clipping 450-500w.. what are we doing here?

 

[Nostras]

If a GPU is clipping 700w, and the rest of your fire breathing system is clipping 450-500w.. what are we doing here?

If we use a 9800X3D (which is the "correct" sensible chip) with a 5090 as a representative top-end system we're nowhere near 1kW under highest possible load. It's more like 800W or so.
If you include a 14900KS in the conversation with a 5090 then yeah, it will pull 1kW stock under full load.
But I think we can agree that using a 14900KS in this conversation is trying to create a problem that doesn't really exist.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

If you go for comparisons, RTX 5090 is the "ferrari", this here is like lower-end Skoda.

The 9070xt is squarely in the upper mid range, at minimum, if its matching a 4070ti/5070/5070ti. Low end skoda would be the 7600.

AMD is scalping hard, inflation also strikes badly.

This GPU should cost not more than 400$. Period.

It's not 2009 anymore. AMD isnt going to take a loss on their GPUs so people can get cheaper nVidia cards.

Their margins on consumer division are something like 12%. Their price reflects the modern industry, all those higher wages and trillions pumped into the economy with reckless abandon have consequences.

As much as I'd like affordable high end hardware, short of a massive market crash and serious competition with TSMC that will never happen. The $500 flagship only happened because 2008 utterly wrecked consumer spending.

If we use a 9800X3D (which is the "correct" sensible chip) with a 5090 as a representative top-end system we're nowhere near 1kW under highest possible load. It's more like 800W or so.
If you include a 14900KS in the conversation with a 5090 then yeah, it will pull 1kW stock under full load.
But I think we can agree that using a 14900KS in this conversation is trying to create a problem that doesn't really exist.

There are plenty of people with high end Intel hardware and high end GPUs. Intel didnt just disappear.

 

[Dr. Dro]

This has been the case since day 1, but I also think this is a bit of a leftover from some years ago where most power supplies would not deliver all power on the 12V rail. Or more nefarious models where this rating was the peak, not continuous. I remember having one with a 4870x2, awful thing.

I'd much prefer manufacturers would stop spreading this bullshit, either accurately describe how much power the GPU uses under full load or just not mention at all.
The amount of misconceptions this brings into the world is ridiculous. Uphill battle every time.

The 9070XT triple 8-pin will run fine with a 750W PSU assuming a quality unit, even with a 14900KS overclocked gorging on 250W+.
At this day and age adding huge margins to the final calculations for spikes is not necessary as the quality has gone up considerably.
Prices too I guess.

Hehe, I agree with the message you're attempting to convey, but just throwing it out here that i9 KS chips use 250W before their rated stock speeds depending on the workload lol

 

[freeagent]

If you have a 5090, you don't have a sensible system lol.

You can justify away you're reasons for getting a 5090, but sensibility is not one of them.

 

[Nostras]

Hehe, I agree with the message you're attempting to convey, but just throwing it out here that i9 KS chips use 250W before their rated stock speeds depending on the workload lol

Admittedly there's not much to overclock anyways and gorging is the default for KS models, we can handshake on that.

If you have a 5090, you don't have a sensible system lol.

You can justify away you're reasons for getting a 5090, but sensibility is not one of them.

Then I don't understand your post. It sounded like you were languishing about the fact that 1kW and even 1.2kW PSUs are commonplace and necessary nowadays.
I'm trying to refute that by saying a 1kW model is overkill for the vast vast majority of the users, even for systems that one may still consider reasonable (albeit terribly pricey).