12th Gen Intel Core i9-12900KS Launches as World's Fastest Desktop Processor

[phill]

The core 2 days? Funny, I seem to remember the core 2 days as intel CPUs being horrendously overpriced....oh yeah, the e8600 was a $285 part. This was also the era of the expensive GPU, remember the 8800 ultra? That was 2007. and it retailed for the equivelant of over $1000. For a GPU with 896 MB of RAM.

I mean yeah, you could buy a midrange part and OC it, but today you can just buy the cheap midrange part and it runs within 5% of the big boy parts 99% of the time. i5 12400 anyone?


pot calling the kettle black....

I was only referring to the fact that most of the Core Duo CPUs I had where the Q6600 or the E6600 or even a E2140 or a E4300, most of them weren't considered much but overclock them and away you go I think the E2140 I had managed over 3.6GHz which wasn't bad considering its stock speeds was 1.80GHz This is a bit more what I'm referring to

Overclocking nowadays doesn't seem to be really exist in my opinion. Which is rather sad. I guess if you have a top end CPU, you'd hopefully have a GPU to marry it to so to speak, its whatever you want to do with your system at the end of the day.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I got 107% from a e6300/P5B DLX

 

[Crackong]

Waste of Sand 2.0

 

[Ruru]

Yay, another factory-overclocked SKU which gets a nice price premium and it's a few percent faster and consumes way more power than the normal 12900K. I miss the days when their key feature was to push better efficiency (like Core 2 Duo), not few FPS more on CS with hella higher price and power draw.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I miss the days when their key feature was to push better efficiency (like Core 2 Duo), not few FPS more on CS with hella higher price and power draw.

Same. Alder Lake does seem to be Intel's current gen "Pentium4" power/performance push.

Either way, I think the point is that improving CPU performance at higher resolutions and lower frame rates versus higher frame rates and lower resolutions, the CPU will end up playing more or less of a role when it comes to overall performance.

While that point has some truth, it is not the whole story and never has been.

First, it depends on the game. Some games are more GPU than CPU centric and as such they will not benefit as greatly from a faster CPU. However, some games(many that are very popular) are very sensitive to CPU speed. As a result they will benefit to a measurable degree from a faster CPU.

Second, gaming is not the only use-case scenario for a PC. Having a premium CPU will provide benefits to programs that need a beefy CPU.

Third, having top tier parts has always been for top tier buyers who want the best and are willing to pay for it. So whether the benefit is 2% or 12% does not matter, they want the best.

Fourth, top tier parts are always the best binned samples and will OC better than lower tier parts. As a result they are desired by the OC community.

This is how it's been working for decades. Why is it everyone forgets whenever a new top tier part hits the market? Does everyone really need regular reminders of simple facts?

 

[Aquinus]

While that point has some truth, it is not the whole story and never has been.

First, it depends on the game. Some games are more GPU than CPU centric and as such they will not benefit as greatly from a faster CPU. However, some games(many that are very popular) are very sensitive to CPU speed. As a result they will benefit to a measurable degree from a faster CPU.

Second, gaming is not the only use-case scenario for a PC. Having a premium CPU will provide benefits to programs that need a beefy CPU.

Third, having top tier parts has always been for top tier buyers who want the best and are willing to pay for it. So whether the benefit is 2% or 12% does not matter, they want the best.

Fourth, top tier parts are always the best binned samples and will OC better than lower tier parts. As a result they are desired by the OC community.

This is how it's been working for decades. Why is it everyone forgets whenever a new top tier part hits the market? Does everyone really need regular reminders of simple facts?

You know, I was only pointing out your claim with regards to game performance at high resolutions. The last 3 points was you just going on a rant because I already agree.

 

[chrcoluk]

Look at that insane processor base power or whatever. I wonder when Intel can finally get back to the stage when it's energy efficient as well as powerful again. Now it just feels their move is desperate.
It can't go long in this way, like what, can you make it to 10 GHz even? It's not a heater anyway. If there's a day when my PC hungers for 1000 W or so, combing CPU and GPU together, I swear I'll customise a water cooling system for them and get rid of all my radiators in my house and use my bloody damn PC to carry me through winter. I'm not looking forward to that at all.

They in two traps.

1 - Modern rapid release schedule, instead of delaying releases until there is a product thats better in every metric "its ready when its ready even if it takes 10 years", they are releasing to a schedule so something is released to a deadline just so they can keep bringing new things to market.
2 - They are seemingly happy to just been able to win at benchmarks used on review sites, even if only by a few %, this leads to decisions like scrapping or raising power limits to ridicolous level,s, just have to win those benchmarks. Reviewers have much more influence then they realise, e.g. if a reviewer refused to give a recommendation regardless of performance because of heat, efficiency, power, cost etc. especially if it was across entire review industry, there is no doubt a change of focus would occur.

Some might say well slower releases leads to stagnation, not really, instead developers would have to actually optimise more, compiler improvements as well, and maybe even a push to stop using heavy bloated frameworks for development and going back to good old fast C, would yield gains via software instead of hardware. I still have a very old FTP app on my PC and I have a build before he moved to .net from C, and one after, the one after is almost 10x slower to launch, and the preferences menu takes almost 200x as longer to display on the screen. They are feature equal.

 

[lexluthermiester]

You know, I was only pointing out your claim with regards to game performance at high resolutions. The last 3 points was you just going on a rant because I already agree.

I'm sorry if that came off like a rant. No offense intended. Was just making some points. Food for thought kind of thing.

 

[Turmania]

So this cpu and say 3090 ti, how many watts are we looking at? is this is way forward?

 

[Ruru]

So this cpu and say 3090 ti, how many watts are we looking at? is this is way forward?

Funny how everything should be "green" and energy-efficient these days, still there seems to be more and more stuff with not caring about the power consumption but just maximum performance, no matter what.

 

[Readlight]

Will someone make new fastest computer?
With masive data storage options.