13600K heats up in Turbo mode

[phanbuey]

Is it only hitting 100C in OCCT smal fft?

what is a 10 min test in cinebench get?

 

[ShrimpBrime]

Is it only hitting 100C in OCCT smal fft?

what is a 10 min test in cinebench get?

Couple posts back, looks like 87c max PL set to 253w with LLC lvl 1.

The minimum v-core under load dipped from an average of 1.35v to a load of 1.250v with peak short power as high as 1.43v

The board is under-volt protected, LLC appears to be a work around, but I'm not clear if this effected performance or not. Definitely throttling doesn't help, so I assume performance didn't change much.

I set my board up in PM with @unclewebb and discovered at defaults the cpu under performs in performance. Changing only XMP and disabling Asus performance enhancement lowered the R23 score by 1000 points, that where during defaults does not hit expected scores. I'm guessing it would be from using an air cooler with a 235w chip.

However, I never run a board at its defaults and typically use this board for crossfire and or AlderLake chips only because of the clock generator.

The Management Engine does have these boards at default apparently. As Uncleweb had stated in PM, my 13700K should be 20K+ points, where I've had it as high as 33,000+ points at only 5.6ghz.

What I did Not know is that the board is under-volt protected which I wasn't aware of at the time of my previous statements.

 

[unclewebb]

the CPU load line was set to 1 on the bios

Try running Cinebench R23. A properly functioning 13600K on a B660 board should be close to 24000 points. Lowering the load line settings is a good way to lower the voltage. The problem is that if Undervolt Protection is still enabled, your actual performance might be terrible. A low Cinebench score is a good way to prove this. The latest BIOS should have the 0x104 microcode option in the Tweaker's Paradise section of the BIOS.

 

[Ware]

I am experiencing heating problems...the system suddenly heats up...all values were set to Auto or default in the BIOS...pl1 and pl2 were set to 253w

Asus boards almost aways give way more power than you need.
Leaving everything at auto is almost certain to create excess heat.
Might be a bit much on the thermal paste IMO.
Your fan profiles are steep so you may hear a lot of rpm changes, which are annoying.
Your VID is so high at stock speed. 1.45v for 5.1? I think stock speed should need about 1.20-1.25v.*
What's is the SP of your 13600K?

 

[unclewebb]

Your VID is so high at stock speed. 1.45v for 5.1?

That is the problem with K series CPUs on boards with the B660 or B760 chipset. Too much voltage equals too much power consumption and heat. When Undervolt Protection is enabled, there is no way to reduce the voltage while still maintaining maximum performance. Using microcode 0x104 is the only way.

 

[sienon]

Spoiler

 

[GerKNG]

so much this and that fixes it nonsense.
we are still bound to physics in this universe.
either your cooler sucks, is broken or not correctly mounted. And an AIO pump has to run at 100% not in a curve.

 

[pressing on]

And an AIO pump has to run at 100% not in a curve.

The AIO here is the Thermaltake TH240 ARGB. A build I did for someone else featured one of these. The Thermaltake instructions were to connect the pump to the 'CPU fan port'. The Gaming-F is one of those boards that will have an AIO fan header, it runs at 100% and that's where the pump connector should go. The motherboard of the build I did lacked an AIO connector so the CPU fan header was used with the profile set to 100%. The fans were connected to a separate fan header. The speed of the pump at 100% was around 3000 rpm, with no detectable noise above the rest of the system.

 

[unclewebb]

@sienon

Have you run ThrottleStop yet? Does the FIVR window show Undervolt Protection is enabled? Your Cinebench R23 score is 9000 points less than what it should be. (24K vs 15K)
The MHz data that HWMonitor or any monitoring software reports is meaningless. Your 13600K is throttling internally. A very low Cinebench score is proof that your CPU is performing way below expectations.
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/110bnif

Here is some interesting info about injecting the early 0x104 microcode into recent BIOS versions.
https://www.reddit.com/r/overclocking/comments/12xbq2s

 

[Gica]

Pay attention to the SC score.
If temperature is a problem in the SC test, the MT test cannot be run. It behaves like a processor set in Best Power efficiency.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

Back when B660-G/F was released, ME Firmware/Software was not set up to be dumbed down. There was no "Under-volt protection". In fact, BCLK was even possible and the entire reason I had gotten the board, but back then it was Alder-Lake and Intel Allows BCLK on Alder-Lake. Fine and dandy.

I was one to be able the taste of BCLK OC of a 13th Gen chip.

In the picture, the ME firmware was still original from the factory.
Purchased a second board a few months after this because I updated the firmware.
As suggested by the manufacturer.
The second board came injected with updated ME firmware and I was never able to reproduce what you see below again.

Shame. Seemed like outstanding performance.