[2025] Will you use Windows 10 LTSC or Windows 11?

Nhonho · Sunday at 7:25 AM

radosuaf said:
I'll wait for Windows 12... Supposedly to show up before November 2025 and hopefully better than 11.

I only start using a specific Windows after 5 years of its release, after MS has already fixed its critical bugs. In the case of Windows 11, I would use its LTSC edition.

I have the impression that MS and game developers release their software full of bugs and use people's PCs as guinea pigs to detect the bugs through telemetry.

r.h.p · Sunday at 9:02 AM

cal5582 said:
staying back on 10. this is the vista portion of the microsoft cycle.

Could be , with the TPM thing first and change is hard for some people like me Hehe Im constantly debating with myself to upgrade , shall i ? i don't know

3valatzy · Sunday at 9:58 AM

I tried to install win 11, but it refused to find a network driver in the folder. :kookoo:

I see that it is quite a rude software.

Back to Windows 10 for good.

radosuaf said:
I'll wait for Windows 12... Supposedly to show up before November 2025 and hopefully better than 11.

theFOoL said:
WiN12 isn't a thing that I know of. Anyways 10ET uses far less RAM compared to 11ET from my test (just watching YT and several tabs on FF)

It looks like win 11 might be the last windows version ever ?
Microsoft lied about this before.

Nhonho · Sunday at 10:03 AM

3valatzy said:
I tried to install win 11, but it refused to find a network driver in the folder.

Download the driver from your motherboard or laptop manufacturer's website and also from your network card manufacturer's website. One of them should work.

I think the driver must be unpacked, not in exe or zip format.

Vayra86 · Sunday at 1:35 PM

Macro Device said:
With how actively M$ try to kill gaming (retro mostly but whatever, retro games are still games) on W11 I'd rather go back to W10. W11 has zero functions I need that don't exist in W10 and is a resource hog so I won't even bat an eye. Installed 24H2 just for a test drive and had too little time to set everything back to normal. Will do that next month.

What has MS done to try to kill gaming this time? I must have missed it

3valatzy said:
It looks like win 11 might be the last windows version ever ?
Microsoft lied about this before.

Imagine if Windows went to eleven for good.

Shou Miko · Sunday at 1:42 PM

dgianstefani said:
Just installed on my new laptop, no issues.

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I have noticed that the IoT works specific for me better om a OEM system like my Lenovo ThinkPad L14 G2 than my custom gaming rig had some audio issues that by reinstalling I manage to fix but it worked straight out of the box on my L14 G2 and I am planning on using it on my M720q aswell because I do not need to the new copilot, ai stuff on my computer I don't even use Chatgpt honestly I tried it once and it failed me with the information I had trying to get help from it.

I am old school, learned from altavista, yahoo search engine and such before Google actually got so big as they are so I learned how to find what I need and try it with failure and success.

AusWolf · Sunday at 1:49 PM

Neither. I've had enough of the bullshit Windows/Microsoft has been trying to feed me. I'm on Linux now and never been happier with my OS choice.

Vayra86 · Sunday at 1:52 PM

r.h.p said:
Could be , with the TPM thing first and change is hard for some people like me Hehe Im constantly debating with myself to upgrade , shall i ? i don't know

Well, as an 11 user I can't say it has brought me anything that I was missing in 10.

You're safe

Macro Device · Sunday at 2:29 PM

Vayra86 said:
What has MS done to try to kill gaming this time? I must have missed it

Max Payne, Max Payne 2, classic FIFA games (up to FIFA 10 tested and confirmed), and some other titles from the past that work flawlessly or require minimal tinkering to do so in W10 have a whole lot of issues on W11, sometimes to the point the only way to play them is to install an older OS.

M$ just threw all this compatibility out of the window (pun intended).

theFOoL · Sunday at 3:45 PM

3valatzy said:
It looks like win 11 might be the last windows version ever ?
Microsoft lied about this before.

No I *Think maybe something is being Coding Ah Ha. I just don't like how why not just be like WiN7 and no Feature like Big updates with issuing so much Hate you know. I'm saying on WINET So

Wirko · Sunday at 6:20 PM

I will (future tense) use 10 LTSC. Already installed it on a separate SSD for dual-booting with 7. After a while, 10 screwed up the bootloader, but luckily it disabled itself, not 7. Now I have an excuse for more procrastination.

I have 11 at work, its UI was made by three unpaid interns in two nights, not necessarily sober.

Anyone knows if LTSC versions actively hate dual boot installs?

R-T-B · Sunday at 9:23 PM

docnorth said:
We don’t talk officially about piracy.

I'm using Enterprise legit at my business. Evaluating LTSC and trying to decide if worth the massive order we'd have to make. I'm leaning towards "no" at the moment frankly.

Vayra86 · 2025-01-06T12:50:47+0000

Macro Device said:
Max Payne, Max Payne 2, classic FIFA games (up to FIFA 10 tested and confirmed), and some other titles from the past that work flawlessly or require minimal tinkering to do so in W10 have a whole lot of issues on W11, sometimes to the point the only way to play them is to install an older OS.

M$ just threw all this compatibility out of the window (pun intended).

Hold my beer, I want to see if I can get Max Payne up and running now

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