MSI Radeon RX 580 Mech 2 8 GB

[W1zzard]

Today, we have for review the new MSI Radeon RX 580 Mech 2, which is an overclocked custom design variant of the RX 580. It comes with a dual-slot cooler and delivers excellent noise levels that match the quietest RX 580 cards. Overclocking is great, too; we reached 1540 MHz.

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[Valent117]

i prefer this appearance than msi gaming cards

 

[PHaS3]

That overclock result is madness. I cant break 1490 on my Nitro + SE, over 1500 is crazy. Must be some massive maturing of the Polaris manufacturing process going on. Also lines up with that improvement of gaming power consumption.

Great review as always

I have a question about the memory overclocks on these cards - you and other reviewers seem to hit 2250 with no effort, but ive noted that running at 2250 logs memory errors in monitoring apps like HWinfo64, at least on my card. Do you check for memory errors when performing the OC? In the past AMD GDDR5 implementations detected memory errors when overclocking which prevented the appearance of artifacts, but slowed performance due to re-transmitting data. In my mind, that could still be a limiting factor performance wise, assuming that's still a thing...

 

[DeathtoGnomes]

Very nice Review. thank you

 

[dj-electric]

A year late,
at 100$ extra, and 80W extra at load,
for 4% performance increase over a GTX 1060,
That don't exist on pre-OC models,
That already exist for around 250-270$,
For a product that is suppose to be served as stock cleaning

Absolutely 100% nope. Start with selling this card at 230-240$ and we go from there.
Time to line up Radeon with Ryzen and bring a punch of price to performance to the market

 

[eidairaman1]

My only concern is the blue pads on the fins themselves on the hsf, those should be solid plate areas or heatpipes for maximum heat transferrability, or are they just to prevent shorts?

Mech is akin to Pulse as Gaming is akin to Nitro.

 

[gamerman]

this is werid and not these days value review.

i mean how can give gpu what take almost half more power than gtx 1060 editor choice reward!!?

is it true here techpowerup site review, that powerdraw test and and called efficiency not mean nothing??!


gtx 1060 and Radeon RX 580 Mech 2 are like night and day different gpus and nvidias gtx 1060 is much much better.
bcoz amd mech 2 is so lausy old tech gpu that it not would give even good choice reward.

also we must see,that amd mech 2 is oc' version, nvidia gtx 1060 default.


1st, gtx 1060 win many games against mech 2,and if gtx 1060 loose fps,games are still playable good,so gaming fps not issue,
so then must theese days look and sharp, powerdraw/efficiency!

and there gtx 1060 shining,but mech 2 are terrible,examples

powerdraw results


mutimonitoring:

amd mech 2 40w!
nvidia gtx 1060 8w

different is universal big, tell just haow lausy nech 2 are.


b-ray and idle:

amd mech 2 eat both test almost 45% more power than gtx 1060,what is BIG difference.
so,when you not do nothing your PC,mech 2 eat power from wall 40% more than nvidia gtx 1060!
should ring bell for techpowerup test review...amd sumpaty??


average gaming:

amd mech 2 177W!
nvidia gtx 1060 116W

different is over 50%!!


peak gaming:

amd mech 2 197w!
nvidia gtx 1060 125W

this should drop at least amd mech 2 out of reward,this so lausy.
amd mexh 2 eat 60% more juicy than gtx 1060.


also we must remembe that gtx 1060 is over 2 years old gpu and mech 2 brand new gpu from amd!
so still amd cant build anything good,just junk.

well we can think this isuue 2 ways.

1. we oc'd gtx 1060 so much that its take same way power like amd mech 2...
or
2. we can tke this battle gtx 1070,coz even that take less power than amd mech 2.




is it that way that techpoerup want that kind politics coming...
never mind efficiency, go on,even 1kw gpu and watercool...is it right.
i dont thing no1 want it,if so and example techpowerup blessing it and give editor choice reward that. why even show powerdraw.

just let we know fps...

i hopw that techpoerup change amd mech 2 reward at least average buy..bcoz that amd mech 2 deserve.


wake up techpowerup, do we wanna go back 2000??

sure better gpu that battle is sure gtx 1060oc version.


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[eidairaman1]

this is werid and not these days value review.

i mean how can give gpu what take almost half more power than gtx 1060 editor choice reward!!?

isi t true here techpowerup site that powerdraw mening efficiency not mean nothing??


gtx 1060 and Radeon RX 580 Mech 2 are 2 total different gpus and nvidias gtx 1060 is much much better.
bcoz if mech 2 is so lausy old tech gpu that it not would give even good choice reward.

1st, gtx 1060 battle and win many games mech 2,and if gtx 1060 loose fps are palyable so gaming fps not issue,so then must theese days look and sharp powerdraw.

and there gtx 1060 shining,but mech 2 are terrible,examples

powerdraw results


mutimonitoring:

amd mech 2 40w!
nvidia gtx 1060 8w

different is universal big, tell just haow lausy nech 2 are.


b-ray and idle:

amd mech 2 eat both test almost 45% more power than gtx 1060,what is BIG difference.
so,when you not do nothing your PC,mech 2 eat power from wall 40% more than nvidia gtx 1060!
should ring bell for techpowerup test review...amd sumpaty??


average gaming:

amd mech 2 177W!
nvidia gtx 1060 116W

different is over 50%!!


peak gaming:

this should drop at least amd mech 2 out of reward,this so lausy.
amd mexh 2 eat 60% more juicy than gtx 1060.


also we must remembe that gtx 1060 is over 2 years old gpu and mech 2 brand new gpu from amd!
so still amd cant build anything good,just junk.

well we can think this isuue 2 ways.

1. we oc'd gtx 1060 so much that its take same way power like amd mech 2...
or
2. we can tke this battle gtx 1070,coz even that take less power than amd mech 2.


is it that way that techpoerup want that kind politics coming...
never mind efficiency, go on,even 1kw gpu and watercool...is it right.
i dont thing no1 want it,if so and example techpowerup blessing it and give editor choice reward that. why even show powerdraw.

just let we know fps...

i hopw that techpoerup change amd mech 2 reward at least average buy..bcoz that amd mech 2 deserve.


wake up techpowerup, do we wanna go back 2000??

sure better gpu that battle is sure gtx 1060oc version.


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Do you realize this Card is knocking on 1070/1070 ti door for performance? Fyi 1060 is a different tier from 580 so apples to oranges comparison, nice try.

 

[dj-electric]

Do you realize this Card is knocking on 1070/1070 ti door for performance? Fyi 1060 is a different tier from 580 so apples to oranges comparison, nice try troll

This pre-OCed RX 580 doesn't knock anybody's door.

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/RX_580_Mech_2/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

A simple pre-OCed GTX 1060 will get you the same numbers on avarage.
Does a GTX 1060 knock on GTX 1070's door?

 

[dirtyferret]

This pre-OCed RX 580 doesn't knock anybody's door.

 

[W1zzard]

you and other reviewers seem to hit 2250 with no effort

2250 is the Overdrive limit, can't set clocks higher than that.

 

[bug]

"Faster than 1060" is rather questionable with a 3% perf difference at the cost of ~60W (~50% more power draw) while gaming.

@W1zzard And while we're at it, would it be possible to get a second set of performance graphs based only on titles and resolutions where the reviewed card can reach playable levels? Say 60fps for action games and 30fps for TBS and such. I'm thinking the picture might be different sometimes and adding it shouldn't add a lot of time to the review.

 

[eidairaman1]

This pre-OCed RX 580 doesn't knock anybody's door.

https://tpucdn.com/reviews/MSI/RX_580_Mech_2/images/perfrel_1920_1080.png

A simple pre-OCed GTX 1060 will get you the same numbers on avarage.
Does a GTX 1060 knock on GTX 1070's door?

I just say fps numbers and 7 fps difference is meniscule a 580 does say im here to the 1070.

 

[dj-electric]

I just say fps numbers and 7 fps difference is meniscule a 580 does say im here to the 1070.

... Huh? I didn't understand.
Saying an RX 580 knocks on GTX 1070 (and Ti for pete's sake) is just like saying a GTX 1060 does. Both with factory OCs perform absolutely the same, almost to a degree of performance fixing between the companies, on a freaking razor's edge.

You bet your hiney they compete on the same spot of the gamer's market.

Previous quote was seeing things through a very very thick red-stained glass.

 

[cellar door]

There is a gtx 970 included in the graphs but no r9 390??? Very odd choice considering there still is an army of r9 290/390 cards out there.

 

[PHaS3]

2250 is the Overdrive limit, can't set clocks higher than that.

Thanks W1z, I know that's the max I meant by asking, do you see any memory errors in any monitoring apps when at that clock - e.g.:

I know if I clock higher than my 2175 I get memory errors in there. I was curious if you've seen similar because no review I have seen seems to have checked.

 

[W1zzard]

There is a gtx 970 included in the graphs but no r9 390???

390 is 2 generations back, 970 and 480 is 1 generation

 

[kastriot]

Super expensive 199$ is right price

 

[eidairaman1]

... Huh? I didn't understand.
Saying an RX 580 knocks on GTX 1070 (and Ti for pete's sake) is just like saying a GTX 1060 does. Both with factory OCs perform absolutely the same, almost to a degree of performance fixing between the companies, on a freaking razor's edge.

You bet your hiney they compete on the same spot of the gamer's market.

Previous quote was seeing things through a very very thick red-stained glass.

Trying to pick a fight i see, there is a reason you are on the brown list.

 

[dj-electric]

Trying to pick a fight i see, there is a reason you are on the brown list.

I was giving very reasonable explanations backed up with facts and all i get in return is a pointing finger... I honestly don't get it...
I would like reasonable counter explanations instead of "hon hon, your'e on my naughty list".

 

[John Naylor]

The $350 - $370 MSI Mech 2 580 is 2% faster than the reference 1060 at 1080p and overclocks 10.6 %. Peak Gaming is 197 watts (258 Furmark), Noise is good at 32 dbA and temps at 76C under load per this review.

The $315 MSI 1060 Gaming 6GB overclocks 15.1% ... with power at 121 watts (135) , noise at 28 dbA. temps are 69C under load.

580 OC Performance Score - 100 x 1.106 = 110.6
1060 OC Performance Score - 98 x 1.151 = 112.8

So will anyone buy a $360 MSI 580 mech 2over the $315 MSI 1060 6Gb when ....

580 OC'd is about 2% slower then 1060 OC'd .... not a big deal but I wouldn't pay $45 more to go 2% slower
580 is 32% louder under load ... that's H U G E (10 dba difference = twice as loud / 5 dbA = 1.41)
580 runs 7C hotter under load
580 uses 76 watts more power in gaming (123 under Furmark) Turns 520 watter need into at least a 600 water at best / possible 650 widening that $45 price gap not to mention an extra case fan (we use one 140 mm per every 75 - 100 watts / one 120 mm per every 50 - 75)

I nice showing ... for a 580 ... but AMD doesn't have a horse in the race in the top 4 tiers (1060 - 1080 Ti)

 

[bug]

@John Naylor The situation hasn't changed since the release of the RX 480. GTX1060 is the better pick, but there are times when you'd want to go with the 480/580 instead: you play specific games that run better on AMD hardware, you're after compute performance or you're using Linux and won't install a proprietary driver.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

1060 is still king and prices are still falling. AMD really need to price this card more competitively to make up for the shortfalls even though they are very very few in between.

 

[W1zzard]

So will anyone buy a $360 MSI 580 mech 2over the $315 MSI 1060 6Gb when ....

probably not, which is exactly why i mentioned $275 target price. hmm maybe freesync

 

[bug]

probably not, which is exactly why i mentioned $275 target price. hmm maybe freesync

FreeSync is better because it's free. If you have to pay more for the video card to go with it, that advantage disappears rather fast, doesn't it?