MSI Radeon RX 580 Mech 2 8 GB

[Assimilator]

Looks like the wrinkles with Samsung/GloFo's 14nm are finally being worked out... just in time for it to be obsoleted by 12nm and 7nm. Poor Polaris.

 

[mastershake575]

Do you realize this Card is knocking on 1070/1070 ti door for performance? Fyi 1060 is a different tier from 580 so apples to oranges comparison, nice try.

Third party 580 vs third party 1060 are within 5% of each other (with the 1060 having better thermals and higher overclocking potential) and the 1070/1070ti are both anywhere from 35 to 45% faster than both.......... (different tiers ? knocking on 1070 performance ? what ????)

 

[Nuckles56]

Damn, that 1540MHz core clock is impressive, it happily beats the 1510MHz I managed with the RX 580 in my brother's rig

 

[bug]

Damn, that 1540MHz core clock is impressive, it happily beats the 1510MHz I managed with the RX 580 in my brother's rig

Happily? As in, you think you'll ever feel a 1.9% clock difference?

 

[Aquinus]

480 is 1 generation

I wouldn't call the 480 a different generation than the 580, it's practically the same GPU.

 

[eidairaman1]

Third party 580 vs third party 1060 are within 5% of each other (with the 1060 having better thermals and higher overclocking potential) and the 1070/1070ti are both anywhere from 35 to 45% faster than both.......... (different tiers ? knocking on 1070 performance ? what ????)

Go through the scores, 580 is within 7 fps of a 1070. And What's a 1060 you're limiting your graphics capability through and through

 

[Nuckles56]

Happily? As in, you think you'll ever feel a 1.9% clock difference?

Most likely yes as that card got bad memory for OC'ing and could only do 2075MHz before becoming unstable

 

[MrGenius]

Thanks W1z, I know that's the max I meant by asking, do you see any memory errors in any monitoring apps when at that clock - e.g.:

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I know if I clock higher than my 2175 I get memory errors in there. I was curious if you've seen similar because no review I have seen seems to have checked.

Meaningless at best. At worst it means your memory isn't working correctly. GDDR is ECC memory. It's been designed to correct errors. As such, what HWiNFO is showing you could possibility mean that, like I said, your ECC memory is not detecting and/or correcting errors.

What's worse is, IME, it's bassackwards. HWiNFO reports I'm getting ~90,000 "GPU Memory Errors" with the GDDR5 clocked to 1850MHz on my 280X. No artifacts or instability whatsoever. And decreasing the mem clocks kills performance. But if I run ridiculously tight timings at the same 1850MHz, artifacts start showing up...AND..."GPU Memory Errors" ARE REDUCED BY ~70,000 to ~20,000. So WAY LESS "memory errors" = artifacts. WTF? That shit is broken!

HWiNFO "GPU Memory Errors" grossly misrepresent reality. Total BS.

Bottom Line: Do you see artifacts in, or have stability issues running, 3D applications? Then you're not having a problem with "too many" errors from your GPU memory.

 

[newtekie1]

Go through the scores, 580 is within 7 fps of a 1070. And What's a 1060 you're limiting your graphics capability through and through

Which cherry picked benchmark are you using to get the 7fps number? Because on the very first game, you see the 1070 beat this 580 by 19FPS and the 1070Ti beats it by 27FPS...

Unless you are using the 4k results, which for this tier of graphics card is stupid.

You might be able to find a few benchmarks with framerates in the 20s where the 580 is 7 FPS slower, but at those framerates, 7FPS is a major difference.

The fact is the 1070 is on average 30% faster than this 580, and the 1070Ti is 45-50% faster. This 580 is not, in any way shape or form, knocking on the door of those cards performance wise. Seriously, the performance summary page is all you need to see to realize the 1060 is the same tier as the 580, and the 580 is definitely not on the same tier as the 1070/1070Ti. The 1060 6GB is within 3% of this 580 at 1080p(where these cards are designed to be used) and within 1% of a stock 580. Even at 4K the difference only becomes 6%, and for the most part both the 1060 and 580 can't manage playable framerates at 4K, so those numbers are kind or pointless.

 

[SniperHF]

What were the Heaven settings on the overclocking section?
Extreme preset or custom?

 

[PHaS3]

But if I run ridiculously tight timings at the same 1850MHz, artifacts start showing up...AND..."GPU Memory Errors" ARE REDUCED BY ~70,000 to ~20,000. So WAY LESS "memory errors" = artifacts. WTF?

It could be in that case that you are seeing artifacts therefor a reduction in detected memory errors, because a bunch are going undetected, hence the artifacts.

It would be interesting to know if it is a legitimate "log" of detected errors, obviously its exposed by the driver somewhere. Would it be worthless to include this in GPUZ in a future release?

 

[cellar door]

390 is 2 generations back, 970 and 480 is 1 generation

A missed opportunity, considering what has been going on in the gpu market for the last year. A lot of people were and still are in the market for those gpus. Maybe something you guys can add back in, at least for a little while, until the mining aftermath settles down.


I came here, to this review to see current relevance a 390, as both me and my friend are looking at those gpus due to pricing. TPU performance chart has been a standard go to.

 

[W1zzard]

I have no plans to add 390 back in. It's a few percent slower than RX 480, so that should be a good enough approximation

 

[John Naylor]

probably not, which is exactly why i mentioned $275 target price. hmm maybe freesync

I agree .... Adding on the cost of the bigger PSU and case fan would have to be $40 or so to even things out ... I don't even wanna think about the power costs over 3-4 years. As for adaptive sync, don't really think about it. I just prefer turning off G-Sync and using ULMB in most instances and MBR options on Freesync monitors are getting scarce.

FreeSync is better because it's free. If you have to pay more for the video card to go with it, that advantage disappears rather fast, doesn't it?

I'd agree if they were capable of delivering the same experience .. kinda like comparing 2WD and 4WD. One lets you go off road, the other doesn't.

Freesync a) Provides adaptive sync technology b) Range of significant impact = 40 to 70 - 75 fps, it still has an impact above that point but trails off rapidly ... c) No hardware module to provide Motion Blur Reduction

G-sync a) Provides adaptive sync technology b) Range of significant impact = 30 to 70 - 75 fps, it still has an impact above that point but trails off rapidly ... c) Includes hardware module to provide Motion Blur Reduction (ULMB), many gamers prefer ULMB over G-Sync at high frame rates. You can buy Free-Sync monitors with MBR technology built-in but you do have to pay extra for it and the number of available models is diminishing.

 

[mastershake575]

Go through the scores

I did and they stated exactly what I said............

 

[cyneater]

NO RGB a con. ITs a pro I hate RGB crap.. Who cares what it looks like as long as it works.

 

[W1zzard]

NO RGB a con. ITs a pro I hate RGB crap.. Who cares what it looks like as long as it works.

I know that this is purely personal taste, so I just mention it, it doesn't affect the review in any other way.

 

[dj-electric]

If anything, having RGB could be a pro simply because you can turn it off and appeal to both sides. This option does not even exist here.

 

[W1zzard]

If anything, having RGB could be a pro simply because you can turn it off and appeal to both sides. This option does not even exist here.

That's pretty much the reason I put it as con

 

[bug]

If anything, having RGB could be a pro simply because you can turn it off and appeal to both sides. This option does not even exist here.

There are those who will say that is still a con because you pay for hardware you don't intend to use. However you list it, you're bound to upset people.

 

[Ruru]

Do you realize this Card is knocking on 1070/1070 ti door for performance? Fyi 1060 is a different tier from 580 so apples to oranges comparison, nice try.

That user is just a troll, been trolling similar crap for years on Finnish forums.

 

[micke1024]

hola tengo una duda, mi rx 580 msi no da video con varios monitores pero cuando lo pongo en uno pequeño de 22 pulgadas y resolucion 1360x768 si da imagen y a la hora de jugar, hacer testgraficos mantiene temperaturas buenas y en si aunque le de uso por 3 horas seguidas la apague enciendo nunca me da error grafico, alguien sabe que podria estar sucediendo?