AMD Ryzen 3900X & 3700X Tested on X470

[W1zzard]

AMD delivers on its promise of backwards platform compatibility with 3rd generation Ryzen Zen 2. We examine the performance and headroom on a high-end motherboard based on the older AMD X470 chipset in a bid to find out if you can save on platform costs by sacrificing PCIe gen 4 support.

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[Mussels]

First.

Sorry, had to. Thoughts coming later

i'm trying to read the reviews, and check local prices - every website is suddenly on dial up and crashing. ryzen may be popular.

 

[stanleyipkiss]

This is the kind of timely reporting that makes me come back to TPU.

 

[Fluffmeister]

This is the kind of timely reporting that makes me come back to TPU.

Yeah massive credit to @W1zzard for all there recent reviews, tons of hard work no doubt.

Time for a lay down.

 

[birdie]

@W1zzard

Please publish power consumption figures. I heard the X570 chipset requires active cooling which is a huge no-no in my books.

 

[Metroid]

Thanks for the review, clear as always, no point going for the x570 if you dont need pcie4.0 and related to memory tests, 3200 - 3600 is marginally 1% difference too. So a x470 or b450 motherboard running at 3200 or some 3466mhz will be as good as x570 + 3600mhz ddr4 performance wise.

 

[RH92]

Cool it becomes clear that X570 is only usefull if you need pcie 4.0 SSDs for some reason , would be nice to have a memory test between 400series and 500series mobos aswell but i highly doubt there will be any significant difference there aswell !

 

[Pumper]

Great news, looks like we don't really need B550 and get to have the same performance at lower prices and no fans on mobos. Would be nice to see a lower end X470 and a B450 as well, though, as that M7 is more expensive than some of the X570 boards.

 

[Durvelle27]

What about a B350 review since they have support and a lot of users are still on them

 

[W1zzard]

What about a B350 review since they have support and a lot of users are still on them

Working on that right now

 

[Pumper]

What about a B350 review since they have support and a lot of users are still on them

AMD never promised official support for first gen Zen mobos:

 

[Durvelle27]

AMD never promised official support for first gen Zen mobos:

It clearly states select BIOs meaning they are offering support via the option of Vendors

My board has a BIOs update which added support for the Ryzen 3000 plus many more

Working on that right now

Thank you

 

[EarthDog]

This is the kind of timely reporting that makes me come back to TPU.

lol, all websites did this...posted their reviews when they can.

That said, it's a ton of effort from all reviewers, including the W1z.

 

[Deleted member 158293]

Awesome article, x470 Tai Chi & x3950 it will be!

 

[TheLostSwede]

lol, all websites did this...posted their reviews when they can.

That said, it's a ton of effort from all reviewers, including the W1z.

But most sites did not post as comprehensive content as TPU did, unless you have seen otherwise?

 

[EarthDog]

But most sites did not post as comprehensive content as TPU did, unless you care to show otherwise?

was simply referring to posting them at launch ("posting reviews when they can") . A few websites went into this kind of detail.

The person I quoted said "timely" and didnt mention details... I also lost the thread title in my comment.

 

[theonek]

everyone with a top class older chipset Ryzen mobo won't update to X570 at all, the real Q is does it worth so much new Ryzens, as their gaming performance is similar to the already older gen Ryzens....

 

[thebluebumblebee]

a majority of X470 motherboards support USB BIOS Flashback, a feature with which you can update the motherboard BIOS even without a motherboard installed

Think you meant CPU installed.

 

[Athlonite]

First.

Sorry, had to. Thoughts coming later

i'm trying to read the reviews, and check local prices - every website is suddenly on dial up and crashing. ryzen may be popular.

So what are prices like neighbor ours are fricken ridiculous @ $999 for the R9 3900 series CPU's and twice the R7 2700/x prices for the 3700 series here in Gougeland (New Zealand)

 

[Metroid]

So what are prices like neighbor ours are fricken ridiculous @ $999 for the R9 3900 series CPU's and twice the R7 2700/x prices for the 3700 series here in Gougeland (New Zealand)

Scammers will try to scam people when these things are hot. It has always been the case in some places, good thing in the usa they dont do that, newegg, microcenter and most online retailers are charging $329 for the 3700x and $499 for the 3900x.

 

[jeremyshaw]

I think the "selective BIOS" deal with the 350/370 boards is some vendors cheaped out on the BIOS chip capacity, so to make the Zen 2 support code fit, they have to drop something. Usually, it's dropping Bulldozer support (since those were mostly OEM-only anyways, with the exception of the Athlon x4 AM4).

 

[srsbsns]

Maybe try the OC again after using 1.0.0.3AB. TPUs results dont match up with other reviews.

 

[Metroid]

Any am4 motherboard supports at least 65 watts. So a 3600 or 3700 will work without any problems.

 

[Tom_]

@W1zzard

Please publish power consumption figures. I heard the X570 chipset requires active cooling which is a huge no-no in my books.

Buy a C64. That one does not even have active Cooling on the CPU.

 

[mstenholm]

Is "so we maxed out our Precision Boost Overdrive (PBO) headroom " installing a 240 mm AIO?