PlayStation 5 Power Supply (ADP-400DR)

[crmaris]

The Sony PlayStation 5 uses a power supply by Delta Electronics. There is no data on the performance of this PSU, so we got curious and fully evaluated it to give you an idea of how the console's PSU performs. Similar to PCs, the quality of the PSU plays a huge role with consoles, too.

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[Ferrum Master]

• Sweat efficiency spot with 230 V input

That's something new for PSU's , did you try some old spice?

But yea, the soldering quality is like from another league, not the usual crap we are seeing.

 

[Makaveli]

This was a review I was not expecting to see on TPU nice surprise.

 

[Operandi]

ATX spec is garbage, this pretty much shows it. ATX12VO FTW!

 

[Makaveli]

ATX spec is garbage, this pretty much shows it. ATX12VO FTW!

No thanks i'm not replacing my Titanium PSU for that anytime soon.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

ATX spec is garbage, this pretty much shows it. ATX12VO FTW!

More expensive motherboards yay! Just what we needed!

 

[crmaris]

This was a review I was not expecting to see on TPU nice surprise.

It is nice to do something out of the ordinary once a while

 

[Blaazen]

It's 80+ Gold on 230V but not on 100V. It needs 87% eff. at full (100%) load but has some 85,5% only.

Gold requirements at 20/50/100% load:
230V: 90/92/89%
110V: 87/90/87%

 

[Ferrum Master]

It is nice to do something out of the ordinary once a while

To be fair, you need to get hold of an Xbox Supply too now as indeed there is some talks about coil whine for PS5.

Some fanboy rubbish rant image about it. It would be great actually get hold of the faulty units to find out what's wrong.

 

[Space Lynx]

@crmaris this is one of the coolest reviews I have read.

shame to see the PSU needs improved for longevity though. this type of stuff worries me about modern gear. we live in a very odd throw away culture mentality.

if I ever do get a PS5, I will be buying the extended warranty, that is for certain.

 

[Salvo39]

This is awesome. Thank you for sharing. Those high def internal photos are godsend, definitely helps repair folks for debugging purposes.
Would love to see a comparison with the XBOX one.

 

[Space Lynx]

To be fair, you need to get hold of an Xbox Supply too now as indeed there is some talks about coil whine for PS5.

Some fanboy rubbish rant image about it. It would be great actually get hold of the faulty units to find out what's wrong.

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yes I would love to see a review of the xbox series x psu unit from you... @crmaris If I become a TPU supporter on patreon or paypal or however it works, can you make it happen mate? LOL

 

[R-T-B]

To be fair, you need to get hold of an Xbox Supply too now as indeed there is some talks about coil whine for PS5.

Some fanboy rubbish rant image about it. It would be great actually get hold of the faulty units to find out what's wrong.

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lol that image. To be fair glue/goop can be used to reduce coil whine, but it's hardly the cure all they are treating it as.

 

[BorisDG]

Very very interesting review. I wasn't expecting it.

 

[Ferrum Master]

lol that image. To be fair glue/goop can be used to reduce coil whine, but it's hardly the cure all they are treating it as.

Yeah, it just trolling at its finest, hitting all the right spots for flame war.

Glue does help and it is needed, but if the transformer is at fault - gaps, poor winding(not tight enough) then no glue will help there, for exception in ears maybe... Corsair had the most popular hiccups with those "recently". Just some bad batches... oh well.

 

[R-T-B]

Yeah, it just trolling at its finest, hitting all the right spots for flame war.

Glue does help and it is needed, but if the transformer is at fault - gaps, poor winding(not tight enough) then no glue will help there, for exception in ears maybe... Corsair had the most popular hiccups with those "recently". Just some bad batches... oh well.

Yep I tried adding electrically neutral glue to a transformer that was just bad with whine on a plasma screen once... did not do a thing, and I used tons of it.

 

[Ferrum Master]

Yep I tried adding electrically neutral glue to a transformer that was just bad with whine on a plasma screen once... did not do a thing, and I used tons of it.

During early days, only thing you can do is to sink the whole transformer in shellac bath. These days is better to use epoxy resin and put over another housing if have enough space. But that's monkeying around, I could do that only for my personal special occasions.

 

[Operandi]

More expensive motherboards yay! Just what we needed!

Motherboards are expensive now because of the CPU VRM and chipset. Building a another VRM to power the tiny amount of power 3.3 and 5v rails would be single digit dollar amounts.

 

[trsttte]

No thanks i'm not replacing my Titanium PSU for that anytime soon.

You wouldn't need to, just need new cables or adapters

More expensive motherboards yay! Just what we needed!

Motherboards are expensive now because of the CPU VRM and chipset. Building a another VRM to power the tiny amount of power 3.3 and 5v rails would be single digit dollar amounts.

But less expensive power supplies, and simpler more reliable designs perhaps. And it's not like we couldn't eliminate a big part of the 3.3v and 5v from motherboards anyway, HDDs don't need it and DDR5 already moved the power management to the dimm to use 12V. SSDs and USB are the only ones left that I can think of and would be cheap enough to include on the board.



Low PF and higher eff. on 230V is basically what you get when designing a wide input power supply (PF decreases because the input boost has less margin to work with to modulate a sine input and efficiency increases because higher voltage, lower currents, lower dissipation)

 

[crmaris]

yes I would love to see a review of the xbox series x psu unit from you... @crmaris If I become a TPU supporter on patreon or paypal or however it works, can you make it happen mate? LOL

Will try to find an XBOX PSU. Have this in my schedule for quite some time now.

 

[Tartaros]

Sony has a pretty good record on power supplies, the PS2 ones are also very nice. Even 20 years later people keep modding sata disks, ethernet and wifi adapters on PS2 slims and they don't even flinch.

 

[Vayra86]

"The ADP-400DR is sold for €499 incl. VAT, and you get a PS5 as a gift"

 

[ExplodingCaps]

This is an "auto read" review for me, good job op.

Btw, that's a crazy high ocp and opp triggering point for a console tho. I too own ps5 and its psu is dead quiet when playing miles morales @4K.

 

[Valantar]

Great review, fun to see something like this tested - both as "appliance" style consumer electronics are rarely looked at this closely, plus console PSUs have been used in SFF PC builds for quite some time. Looks like this should be a decent candidate as well, as long as you can provide some airflow, are comfortable rigging your own cables (and can find some chonky spade connectors), and can accommodate the oddball form factor.

More expensive motherboards yay! Just what we needed!

As mentioned above: the cost of a couple of tiny low-amperage VRM circuits for 3.3 and 5V rails is going to be negligible compared to an overall motherboard cost - literally a few dollars BOM cost. Integrating them will cost some engineering time, but they can pretty much copy+paste in a reference design, maybe shuffle some components around for space savings, and have the software route traces for them. It's not hard, nor expensive. And 12VO will make PSUs cheaper (to produce and design; of course there's no telling if that will translate to consumer-side savings or just higher margins), smaller and/or easier to cool, more efficient (every 12VO PC will use DC-DC conversion for minor rails, so that's a net gain no matter what, plus the efficiency gains for scaled-to-order VRMs for the minor rails), will reduce cable losses of transferring 5V and 3.3V over long PSU cables, and has a bunch of other benefits, including ditching the woefully outdated 24-pin cable. Are the benefits massive? Obviously not. Are they worthwhile? Yes. Standardization is fantastic, but standards need to be updated or replaced as they age. This is difficult, but necessary. And besides, current PicoPSU designs can easily be adapted to use 12VO PSUs on non-12VO motherboards, making these PSUs easily backwards compatible (at a small cost).

 

[Aquinus]

This was an unexpected surprise. It's not every day that you see a teardown like this on a TPU review. You've outdone yourself @crmaris. I really appreciate your attention to detail and doing something a little more unusual than most. Well done, sir.