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Windows 12 Might be a Windows 11 24H2 Update, Still Carries AI-Centric Features

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According to the report by Windows Central, Microsoft is preparing a major update for Windows 11, codenamed Hudson Valley, which is expected to be released later this year as "version 24H2" or the 2024 Update. This update is anticipated to be a substantial upgrade from last year's version 23H2, featuring performance, security, quality-of-life updates, and new features. The star of the 24H2 update is going to be the focus of next-generation AI experiences, a concept Microsoft has hinted at over the past year. Rumors suggest the introduction of an advanced Copilot that will leverage AI and machine learning to enhance the Windows user experience for improved productivity across apps, search, and more. According to sources, Microsoft is aiming for a September release window for version 24H2, with plans to finalize the update over the summer. Despite speculation that this update might be called "Windows 12" due to its alignment with next-gen AI PCs and experiences, sources indicate that it will likely remain a significant Windows 11 update, especially following the departure of ex-Windows chief Panos Panay.

Microsoft is currently testing some of the features of this next release in the Insider Canary Channel, providing a glimpse into the new features. The update will enhance Snap Layouts with machine learning, suggesting commonly snapped apps for a more streamlined user experience. File Explorer will now support the creation of 7zip and TAR compressed archive files, and PNG files will support viewing and editing metadata. The Quick Settings panel will be updated, allowing users to scroll through all available settings and include a new refresh button for the Wi-Fi list. Phone Link will also see improvements, including using a linked phone as a webcam. A new "Energy Saver" mode will be introduced, reducing system performance and saving energy on battery-powered and plugged-in PCs. General improvements include a new "Install drivers" button during the Wi-Fi setup page, the removal of several built-in Windows apps from the OS image, and a new "Windows protected print mode" for Mopria-certified printers.




All images below are provided by Windows Central, and show features in the following order: Snap Layout, File Explorer Compress, Quick Settings panel, Phone Link, and Energy Saver.



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Will this amazing AI help windows not throw up a hundred irrelevant web search suggestions whenever I try to type the name of a known installed program on the start menu?
 
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they realized that most would probably not want to update, and those who don't care, won't update either.
 
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Will this amazing AI help windows not throw up a hundred irrelevant web search suggestions whenever I try to type the name of a known installed program on the start menu?
even better -- it will install and run things it thinks you need.
 
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windows has never been this unattractive.
but as long as i can fully remove (not disable) all of this AI crap i'm fine with it.
 
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AI- the second becoming of Jesus. Nothing less.
Say ‘hallow’ to your new pal, ‘Hal’.

And uninstall things it it thinks you don't need.
First (and last) command to Copilot: uninstall any AI program from my computer.

Just like the use with explorer and edge ,only to download other web browser.
 
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Wow, Microsoft is going full throttle in implementing more comprehensive and efficient data collection systems!
I don't want anything to do with an on cloud AI working 0.1% of the time for me and 99.9% for those who want to sell me something.
 

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They should just call it Windows and use revisions like MacOS etc.

Start at Windows 12.0

Every new update, add 0.x

Big releases add 1.0

Look forward to Windows 12 tho. 11 never really took off.
 
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This stupid fucking bullshit right here is why I'm a Win11 refusenik. I don't want "AI", I don't need "AI", I just need to run my games and Visual Studio. Microsoft is going to have to pry Windows 10 from my cold dead hands.
 
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This stupid fucking bullshit right here is why I'm a Win11 refusenik. I don't want "AI", I don't need "AI", I just need to run my games and Visual Studio. Microsoft is going to have to pry Windows 10 from my cold dead hands.
Just don't forget about the fact that they might update windows 10 too, because no one is safe :).
 
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AI- the second becoming of Jesus. Nothing less.
Say ‘hallow’ to your new pal, ‘Hal’.


First (and last) command to Copilot: uninstall any AI program from my computer.

Just like the use with explorer and edge ,only to download other web browser.
Yeah but as soon as you hit the button they added to all the keyboards it will just reinstall itself.

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Ai is like Y2K

mostly bullshit, totally idiotic.
 

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Windows 12 is Windows 11 + AI. I don't like either, so I'm not looking forward.
People always says this, then ends up running it eventually.
 
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Well I switched to Vista and I liked it, it just needed above average hardware. I switched to 8 and I liked it as well. But yeah, eventually new hardware and software won't run on 10 and I will need to switch.
 
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Haizz can they just called it Windows 10 Service Pack 2?
When Windows 11 came out is actually a improvement over Win 10 and now Win 12?
AI? That means it definetely need modern CPU to run.
 
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People always says this, then ends up running it eventually.
Well, they did make sure it won't happen this time around, by excluding perfecty capable (hell, FAST and modern, even) computers from running their precious win11 with tpm and the rest of that crap.

I am hugely curious whether microsoft will furiously backpedal and remove the tpm requirements in a couple or four-five years, or leave 20% of the market to linux desktop, by ceasing win10 security updates and support and leaving extremely capable computers in the cold.
 
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Probably a test run. Release the core ideas as 24H2 update, see how it goes. Process the feedback for the next windows version. Somehow I feel fresh install would make more sense with the new update already in, than doing "the regular update path".
 
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Well, they did make sure it won't happen this time around, by excluding perfecty capable (hell, FAST and modern, even) computers from running their precious win11 with tpm and the rest of that crap.

I am hugely curious whether microsoft will furiously backpedal and remove the tpm requirements in a couple or four-five years, or leave 20% of the market to linux desktop, by ceasing win10 security updates and support and leaving extremely capable computers in the cold.
Nadela doesn't care about desktop. He cares about Azure, Bing and AI.
 
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And uninstall things it it thinks you don't need.
And share data with Microsoft with any data it thinks you might want to share, esp. websearch and webhit even when not using Edge
 
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