Benchmark Scores | Faster than yours... I'd bet on it. :) |
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System Name | 01001 |
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Processor | AMD FX-9370 4.4GHz 8-Core |
Motherboard | ASUS SAPPHIRE 990FX R2.0 |
Cooling | NOCTUA DH-14 |
Memory | Corsair Vengeance Pro 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB FTW ACX 2.0 Video Card (2-Way SLI) |
Storage | Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD (OS & Software) and WD BLACK SERIES 3TB x6 |
Display(s) | ASUS 23" IPS |
Case | COOLER MASTER Cosmos II (Black) ATX Ultra Tower |
Audio Device(s) | DENON 7.2 Receiver with 4K |
Power Supply | Corsair AX1200i |
Mouse | Steel Series Megafresh |
Keyboard | Microsoft Ancient POS PS/2 |
Software | Windows 7 Ultimate x64 & Windows 10 Pro x64 (Dual Boot) |
yes. thats the situation its designed for.
System Name | Desktop | Server |
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Processor | Intel i7 2700k @ 4.6GHZ | AMD 5350 @ 2500MHZ |
Motherboard | Asus P7Z77-V Pro | Asus AM1I-A |
Cooling | Corsair H60v2 | Stock Air |
Memory | Crucial Ballistix 2x8GB CL8 1600MHZ | Corsair Vengence 2x4GB CL9 1600MHZ |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX 1060 6GB | PNY GTX 750Ti |
Storage | Samsung 840 EVO 250GB + 4TB WD Red | 2x Seagate Barracuda 2TB |
Display(s) | Samsung S27D390H + Asus VE276Q | Headless |
Case | Fractal Design R5 | CM Elite 110 |
Audio Device(s) | Asus Xonar D1 w/Otone Stilo 5.1 and Creative Fatal1ty headset |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 850 G2| Corsair CX430M |
Mouse | Razer Imperator 2012 |
Keyboard | Corsair K90 |
Software | Windows 7 SP1 X64 | Ubuntu 16.04LTS |
Rule of thumb right now, if you are on 32bit, just stay there. If you are upgrading, go 64 bit.
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
The performance gain is not really apparent in use, it is more of a functionality sort of issue.
like i paid extra for 8gb ram, why not spend a little more to obtain a 64bit version rather than waste 5/8th of it...
even for a home user when multi-tasking the speed up is immense with >3gb ram
System Name | DarkStar |
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Processor | i5 3570K 4.4Ghz |
Motherboard | Asrock Z77 Extreme 3 |
Cooling | Apogee HD White/XSPC Razer blocks |
Memory | 8GB Samsung Green 1600 |
Video Card(s) | 2 x GTX 670 4GB |
Storage | 2 x 120GB Samsung 830 |
Display(s) | 27" QNIX |
Case | Enthoo Pro |
Power Supply | Seasonic Platinum 760 |
Mouse | Steelseries Sensei |
Keyboard | Ducky Pro MX Black |
Software | Windows 8.1 x64 |
GPU-Z does fine for me, i just have to halve the amounts it shows since it seems to be doubling up in crossfire.
System Name | Gamers PC |
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Processor | AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE @ 3.80 GHz |
Motherboard | MSI 790FX-GD70 AM3 |
Cooling | Corsair H50 Cooler |
Memory | Corsair XMS3 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3-1333 |
Video Card(s) | XFX Radeon HD 5770 1GB GDDR5 |
Storage | 2 x WD Caviar Green 1TB SATA300 w/64MB Buffer (RAID 0) |
Display(s) | Samsung 2494SW 1080p 24" WS LCD HD |
Case | CM HAF 932 Full Tower Case |
Audio Device(s) | Creative SB X-FI TITANIUM -PCIE x 1 |
Power Supply | Corsair TX Series CMPSU-650TX (650W) |
Software | Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit |
Well said32 bit OS is dead for the PC gaming world.
System Name | Blue |
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Processor | Core 2 Quad Q9400 |
Motherboard | Asus P5Q3 |
Cooling | Hyper 212+ |
Memory | Corsair XMS 6GB DDR3 |
Video Card(s) | Sapphire HD6870 1GB |
Storage | Seagate 1TB, WD 1TB |
Display(s) | Samsung P2250 |
Audio Device(s) | On-Board |
Power Supply | Corsair TX650 |
Software | Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit |
If you had 4GB of system ram and a 1GB video card under a 32 bit operating system, each individual program could only use 3GB of that system ram (due to the video card using 1GB of address space) However there is something else most people are NOT aware of.
Under DirectX 9.0C (and lower) video card ram must be duplicated into system ram. That means if you're running on the highest settings with your new shiny 1GB video card - that 1GB of video memory must be duplicated leaving you with only 2GB left for your game.
You just went from 4GB to 2GB, only considering a single 1GB video card. Things only get worse in SLI and crossfire.
Under 64 bit you wouldnt have lost that initial 1GB of ram to the address space, so you'd have 3GB of usable ram, with 1GB used in DX9.0C games. All of a sudden those modern games which border on 1.5-2GB of ram usage are playable, without your system running like a dog.
Side note: It should be noted that DX10/10.1 does not duplicate video memory into system ram. DX10 actually helps to alleviate this issue, if your system is powerful enough to run games in DX10.
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
So does that mean a 64-bit system with say 4GB ram running DX10 will have all 4GB of system RAM available since the above highlighted points wont be applicable on it ?
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
Mussels,
I happened to find this thread completely by chance while doing my "homework" on the potential of a future Crossfire setup for my PC. Excellent write-up. Very informative.
However, what correlation would memory hole remapping have to the specific 32-bit addressing issue being discussed and how would it work out in practice? Would it be a viable solution for someone using 4 GB of RAM and two Radeon cards with 1 GB VRAM each who wants to stick with a 32-bit OS for whatever reason? My apologies if this has already been addressed, but I did skim through all 10 pages of comments before fielding this question.
@eidaraman1
Thanks. After reading this am I correct in assuming that, in theory, memory hole remapping would not make one bit of difference and may actually leave one worse off?
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
System Name | PCGOD |
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Processor | AMD FX 8350@ 5.0GHz |
Motherboard | Asus TUF 990FX Sabertooth R2 2901 Bios |
Cooling | Scythe Ashura, 2×BitFenix 230mm Spectre Pro LED (Blue,Green), 2x BitFenix 140mm Spectre Pro LED |
Memory | 16 GB Gskill Ripjaws X 2133 (2400 OC, 10-10-12-20-20, 1T, 1.65V) |
Video Card(s) | AMD Radeon 290 Sapphire Vapor-X |
Storage | Samsung 840 Pro 256GB, WD Velociraptor 1TB |
Display(s) | NEC Multisync LCD 1700V (Display Port Adapter) |
Case | AeroCool Xpredator Evil Blue Edition |
Audio Device(s) | Creative Labs Sound Blaster ZxR |
Power Supply | Seasonic 1250 XM2 Series (XP3) |
Mouse | Roccat Kone XTD |
Keyboard | Roccat Ryos MK Pro |
Software | Windows 7 Pro 64 |
@cadaveca
Fair enough. My concern was that, theoretically, the VRAM would be hoisted to a memory range the OS can't access, therefore rendering it unusuable. I guess I'm overthinking this.
@eidairaman1
Oh, I have no doubt that a 64-bit OS is the better solution. Nowadays, there's really not much of a practical choice between XP and 7 any more. Unfortunately, 7 is a bit of a hard sell for me due to potential issues with some of my hardware. I really don't want to have to perform voodoo to get the OS to recognize components simply because the drivers aren't signed.
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
System Name | RiseZEN Gaming PC |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ Auto |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming ATX Motherboard |
Cooling | Corsair H115i Elite Capellix AIO, 280mm Radiator, Dual RGB 140mm ML Series PWM Fans |
Memory | G.Skill TridentZ 64GB (4 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 |
Video Card(s) | ASUS DUAL RX 6700 XT DUAL-RX6700XT-12G |
Storage | Corsair Force MP500 480GB M.2 & MP510 480GB M.2 - 2 x WD_BLACK 1TB SN850X NVMe 1TB |
Display(s) | ASUS ROG Strix 34” XG349C 180Hz 1440p + Asus ROG 27" MG278Q 144Hz WQHD 1440p |
Case | Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Gaming Case |
Audio Device(s) | SteelSeries 5Hv2 w/ Sound Blaster Z SE |
Power Supply | Corsair RM750x Power Supply |
Mouse | Razer Death-Adder + Viper 8K HZ Ambidextrous Gaming Mouse - Ergonomic Left Hand Edition |
Keyboard | Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum RGB Gaming Keyboard |
Software | Windows 11 Pro - 64-Bit Edition |
Benchmark Scores | I'm the Doctor, Doctor Who. The Definition of Gaming is PC Gaming... |
System Name | Ryzen TUF. |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen7 3700X |
Motherboard | Asus TUF X570 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | Noctua |
Memory | Gskill RipJaws 3466MHz |
Video Card(s) | Asus TUF 1650 Super Clocked. |
Storage | CB 1T M.2 Drive. |
Display(s) | 73" Soney 4K. |
Case | Antech LanAir Pro. |
Audio Device(s) | Denon AVR-S750H |
Power Supply | Corsair TX750 |
Mouse | Optical |
Keyboard | K120 Logitech |
Software | Windows 10 64 bit Home OEM |
People, more ram the better. 64-Bit rocks all thanks to AMD. It's better to have both of these than not IMO.![]()
System Name | Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load) |
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Processor | Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core) |
Motherboard | Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded) |
Cooling | Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate |
Memory | 2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V) |
Video Card(s) | Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W)) |
Storage | 2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2 |
Display(s) | Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) | Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) | Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144) |
Case | Fractal Design R6 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G560 | Corsair Void pro RGB |Blue Yeti mic |
Power Supply | Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY) |
Mouse | Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL |
Keyboard | Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps) |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift S + Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware! |
Benchmark Scores | Nyooom. |
I agree with you to a point . It is NOT all thanks to AMD is it however all thanks to Microsoft ! Lets try to keep this in perspective and not toss around the fanboy charm . AMD came out with the first 64 bit CPU yes Intel was slow to come out with one but they did have them in the P4 days as well .
Been on the 64 bit OS since windows vista ! Love it .
System Name | Ryzen TUF. |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen7 3700X |
Motherboard | Asus TUF X570 Gaming Plus |
Cooling | Noctua |
Memory | Gskill RipJaws 3466MHz |
Video Card(s) | Asus TUF 1650 Super Clocked. |
Storage | CB 1T M.2 Drive. |
Display(s) | 73" Soney 4K. |
Case | Antech LanAir Pro. |
Audio Device(s) | Denon AVR-S750H |
Power Supply | Corsair TX750 |
Mouse | Optical |
Keyboard | K120 Logitech |
Software | Windows 10 64 bit Home OEM |
AMD made x86-64. intels solution previously was an entirely new OS with ZERO 32 and 16 bit compatibility - every single app had to be 64 bit.
AMD does deserve thanks there, as they did bring about operating systems that could run 32 and 64 bit at the same time.
System Name | OrangeHaze / Silence |
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Processor | i7-13700KF / i5-10400 / |
Motherboard | ROG STRIX Z690-E / MSI Z490 A-Pro Motherboard |
Cooling | Corsair H75 / TT ToughAir 510 |
Memory | 64Gb GSkill Trident Z5 / 32GB Team Dark Za 3600 |
Video Card(s) | Palit GeForce RTX 2070 / Sapphire R9 290 Vapor-X 4Gb |
Storage | Hynix Plat P41 2Tb\Samsung MZVL21 1Tb / Samsung 980 Pro 1Tb |
Display(s) | 22" Dell Wide/24" Asus |
Case | Lian Li PC-101 ATX custom mod / Antec Lanboy Air Black & Blue |
Audio Device(s) | SB Audigy 7.1 |
Power Supply | Corsair Enthusiast TX750 |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Lightspeed Wireless / Logitech G502 Proteus Spectrum |
Keyboard | K68 RGB — CHERRY® MX Red |
Software | Win10 Pro \ RIP:Win 7 Ult 64 bit |