Intel Arc B580

[W1zzard]

The next-generation Intel Arc graphics cards are here! The B580, powered by the Battlemage architecture, is priced at a highly competitive $250. Testing in our review confirms that Intel's new card outperforms both NVIDIA's GeForce RTX 4060 and AMD's RX 7600, and it now supports frame generation as well.

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[Space Lynx]

Not bad, considering the 7700 xt and 4060 ti are almost twice the price.

 

[Chaitanya]

A much needed win for Intel and gamers on Budget.

Edit: Missing in pros is are the video encode decode capabilities which currently are a lot better than competition.

 

[Space Lynx]

A much needed win for Intel and gamers on Budget.

Exactly, and a cheap ryzen or intel cpu/budget mobo thrown into a rig with this, honestly for under 600 bucks you could probably pull off a decent rig (before tax)

It's always tricky though, because if you just save up a little more money you could have double those frame rates with a rx 7900 gre, which I see on sale right now for $490

 

[Chaitanya]

Exactly, and a cheap ryzen or intel cpu/budget mobo thrown into a rig with this, honestly for under 600 bucks you could probably pull off a decent rig (before tax)

It's always tricky though, because if you just save up a little more money you could have double those frame rates with a rx 7900 gre, which I see on sale right now for $490

With 7900GRE upgrade over B580 would require a PSU upgrade which might add couple of extra into budget also Intel has advantage over AMD when it comes to video encode and decode capabilities.

 

[Dristun]

Beats all direct competition for now - nice. Shame they're so late and it's probably just for a few months. People who waited might as well wait a bit more until AMD comes out with RDNA4 and see if there's anything more valuable there.
And please don't start droning about old games and check HW Unboxed video of 250 or, dare I shamelessly plug, one of my quick checks of some others I played on A580 (Old racing games, 15 other games)

 

[Space Lynx]

With 7900GRE upgrade over B580 would require a PSU upgrade which might add couple of extra into budget also Intel has advantage over AMD when it comes to video encode and decode capabilities.

ah yeah good point, I didn't think of that.

honestly for a 1080p gamer, 5700x3d cpu or whatever the cheapest x3d cpu is these days on AM4 platform, combined with this Intel gpu, that would be a really solid 1080p rig. Sharing a 1440p benchmark was probably not fair of me with the argument I was making originally.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

With 7900GRE upgrade over B580 would require a PSU upgrade which might add couple of extra into budget also Intel has advantage over AMD when it comes to video encode and decode capabilities.

Intel also has the advantage over AMD with RT and XeSS.

Beats all direct competition for now - nice. Shame they're so late and it's probably just for a few months. People who waited might as well wait a bit more until AMD comes out with RDNA4 and see if there's anything more valuable there.
And please don't start droning about old games and check HW Unboxed video of 250 or, dare I shamelessly plug, one of my quick checks of some others I played on A580 (Old racing games, 15 other games)

Nearly half his video is talking about games that dont work right, crash, or have severe performance issues.

So yes, I WILL talk about old games, thank you very much.

 

[Daven]

I see the new test system is up and running with the 9800X3D. I also see that Windows 11 2H24 must be stable enough to use for the test system. Finally, it looks like 1:1 6200 MHz DDR5 on an X870E chipset motherboard is possible with this CPU. All very positive changes.

Edit: Also everyone should keep in mind that with three GPU players now, there is probably going to be a limit to the number of previous generation cards in reviews going forward. Otherwise the bar charts will be super long and W1zzard will probably never be able to sleep.

 

[Dristun]

Intel also has the advantage over AMD with RT and XeSS.

Nearly half his video is talking about games that dont work right, crash, or have severe performance issues.

So yes, I WILL talk about old games, thank you very much.

233/250 are playable, so sure, please continue, you're welcome

 

[Space Lynx]

1:1 6200 MHz DDR5

@ir_cow based on the reviews I have seen from him, an extra 200 mhz while maintaining 1:1 literally will not matter at all in games (versus the standard 6000, maybe 0.5 fps gained on avg.

 

[W1zzard]

an extra 200 mhz while maintaining 1:1 literally will not matter at all in games (versus the standard 6000, maybe 0.5 fps gained on avg.

Correct. It's mostly just to shut up people who keep nagging about slow memory speeds

 

[neatfeatguy]

Looks promising for entry level gaming. I'd say the only real downsides are the idle power draw (without enabling ASPM) and the awkward overclocking issue. Always good to see more competition, hopefully it is enough to at least get people to start looking at them as a viable dGPU option.

 

[cmguigamf]

Good card for its MSRP. Too bad the retailers here in Brazil are gonna take a look at relative performance to nVidia/AMD offerings and price the B580 accordingly, which will make Battlemage a nonsensical option for most people.

 

[colossusrageblack]

Well done Intel. If I was in the market for this budget range I'd probably go with this GPU. It seems the performance is sitting around a RX6700, which goes for around $250-300 depending on the sale. The performance comparison really changes though once you enable Ray Tracing and more importantly, XeSS would draw me towards a B580.

 

[aktpu]

Nice nice nice

 

[Daven]

I still can't get my head around this:

• No support for DLSS (yes I know it's an NV exclusive, still doesn't change the fact that you can have it on one option and not on others)

I thought XeSS was about as good as DLSS. Why would one care about DLSS if the card supports a very similar version of it? Also the last TPU Frontpage poll only found 2.8% of TPU readers care about Upscaling and Frame Generation. I would almost say these technologies are all cons as we are being forced to pay for the development of something the vast majority of us don't want.

 

[rv8000]

@ir_cow based on the reviews I have seen from him, an extra 200 mhz while maintaining 1:1 literally will not matter at all in games (versus the standard 6000, maybe 0.5 fps gained on avg.

Plenty of games where you can gain 1-2% just from going to 6200 from 6000 with sync’d fclk, cp2077 for example gains about 10 fps average across 4 runs @ 1080p low defaults. Not to mention 6200, 6400, and even 6600 are possible just depends on imc quality and patience.

That being said, you’ll get more benefit from altering your refresh window by lowering trfc and raising trefi most of the time.

On topic: glad to see this card does fairly well overall, may snag one for the htpc.

 

[AcE]

*Great Value, but not in Europe

*bad efficiency, the card is boosted because it runs greatly in just one game, CP2077 and the efficiency test is conducted in CP2077, sheer luck, but one page earlier the efficiency is comparably bad in the “Gaming” section.

Tough sell, maybe good for people who want to waste energy, the 4060s chip is half the size and eats way less power in “Gaming”. No DLSS, yes, relevant. The only thing it kinda shined at was RT, but RT is largely irrelevant in mid range cards. All in all not a great product, barely competing with 7600/4060 with a way bigger chip and against former with a way better node on top (5 vs 6nm). It is really just the RT cores here that leave a good impression, everything else, no not really. Not even the price in US.

I thought XeSS was about as good as DLSS.

1) it’s not and never was, who said this? 2) it’s in way less games, and that’s big. DLSS is also kinda important for mid range cards who lack performance anyway. AMD cards can activate Frame Gen in all games, Intel can’t, this is another con (and positive for AMD) which is omitted on all reviews here.

 

[Ser_g11]

what happened to the А770?

 

[cmguigamf]

One thing I noticed though is that the extra VRAM didn't help it that much even at 1440p (4k is moot since this card won't run most games well at that resolution anyway) versus 4060. An extra 10% on the minimum FPS, sure, but that's going from 27 to 29fps. It might make more of a differenc in texture loading/quality, which remains to be seen and tested.

 

[wolf]

All in all this is coming off rather impressive for what it is and what it costs. 12GB, nice feature set, large efficiency improvement, Well done.

 

[nguyen]

Not a fan of low end GPU but looks like Intel has finally pulled a small win among the loses they have racked up thus far with the B580

 

[Rabit]

Not bad slightly faster than my 2 years old RX 6700 that cost me 150 Euro ;0

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

One thing I noticed though is that the extra VRAM didn't help it that much even at 1440p (4k is moot since this card won't run most games well at that resolution anyway) versus 4060. An extra 10% on the minimum FPS, sure, but that's going from 27 to 29fps. It might make more of a differenc in texture loading/quality, which remains to be seen and tested.

One thing TPU is missing is frame time testing. GamerNexus did some and in the 3 of the 5 games tested the intel card had significantly better frame times despit enot being that much faster then the 4060.

8GB is obsolete.