4090 swapped to a 7900XTX and prefers it!?!?

freeagent · Jul 22, 2023

Play nice fellas, points add up quick.

Why_Me · Jul 22, 2023

dgianstefani said:
It's mostly because he's doing it to create drama for clicks.

No one in their right mind switches from a 4090 to a 7900XTX.

This ^^

Space Lynx · Jul 23, 2023

ZoneDymo said:
Meanwhile I see AMDs RX6900xt matching Nvidias RTX2060....so at best they are 1 generation behind

what are you smoking mate

6900 XT blows away a 2060 in raster games. i don't give a damn about ray tracing.

freeagent said:
Play nice fellas, points add up quick.

I'm the first Astronaut of the site, and I am not afraid of your heatsink collection, though we probably all should be.

wolf · Jul 23, 2023

Interesting topic. I don't think if I owned a 4090 I'd downgrade it to a 7900XTX, but I think I'd be happy if I owned a 7900XTX, it's just not the right purchase for me right now, neither are. I do get the feels from the video that it's almost purely done to drive clicks, like 95%, where most of the content I enjoy absolutely all have a component meant to drive clicks, just not nearly this high. Nevertheless some interesting points made.

Still, compelling enough to make a thread about I suppose, and offers some balance against the AMD negativity lately (some right deserved, some not - imo)

Certainly seems hard for some to stay on topic / not be rude, but that's par for the course.

freeagent · Jul 23, 2023

I would be ok with a 79XTX.. perty nice!

I think both camps have a pretty good product out right now.

The prices suck though, we need someone to shake the monopoly board a bit

zenlaserman · Jul 23, 2023

dgianstefani said:
It's mostly because he's doing it to create drama for clicks.

No one in their right mind switches from a 4090 to a 7900XTX.

Read a lot of your posts. Dunno how you got to be a "staff member". You're kinda just a member. Maybe staff-shaped.

Reasons in this thread:

1st statement is Captain Obvious-level cringe, you're not presenting a revelation here. Imagine trying to get clicks on a platform that pays you for clicks. Imagine.

2nd statement is a logical fallacy. I don't think you qualify as someone who can judge "who is in their right mind". You're a member, remember. Staff-shaped, perhaps.

Lost_Troll · Jul 23, 2023

Marcus L said:
Seriously, this guy is staff and is a 1 trick pony spouting the same bollocks in all of his posts, guess that's the vibe TPU wants to give off now, he's a massive troll...

Hey! I resemble that remark! :laugh:

I think this generation of cards are duds with the current pricing. As far as the guy in the video, if he feels he made the right choice, then good for him. Though I would have bought the 7900XTX just for the price if I had to pick one, due to the price. Now I wish the 7900 XT would drop to the 699$ to 725$ price again so I could get one, like 3 of my coworkers did.

Macro Device · Jul 23, 2023

I find it funny that this dude is discussing the only next-gen GPUs making sense now. Everything else is such a failure I'd ask Lovecraft if he can find a word to describe it.

iameatingjam · Jul 23, 2023

eidairaman1 said:
Sega Dreamcast, Sorry but it was Graphically better than the PS2.

Totally. PS2 games always looked like shit to me.

Ahhzz · Jul 23, 2023

There seems to be a lot of personal attacks, off-topic posts, and general Asshole behavior. In this thread, it stops now.

Shou Miko · Jul 23, 2023

Lol seriously this dude makes a video of his move, I didn't when I moved from a RTX 3090 to a RX 6800 XT I didn't even wine I loved it to be back on AMD.

Last time I sold my RX 6800 XT Red Devil because I moved to a RX 7900 XT and did I regret it? No because I should see and feel the uplift so just stop being the crier and do what you want this dude picked the card because he have the money for it doesn't mean he should complain.

This is just my two cents not gonna comment anymore and these things because there are pros and cons to everthing in life.

mama · Jul 23, 2023

ARF said:
When someone has already spent that amount on an RTX 4090, I think it's quite dificult to find "reasons" to swap for an RX 7900 XTX. Of course, we all know that these are different products with different target niches - for example, one that prefers higher textures quality in the games, always stays with Radeon:

While, others who care about raw frames per second, dlss, ray-tracing framerate would still always prefer geforces...

View attachment 305887

I still consider that the RX 7900 XTX is a disappointment because I did expect it to be close overall to RTX 4090 in the raw performance tables.
I will wait if AMD will release a proper and fixed RX 7950 XTX with at least 20% higher performance...

AMD must improve its AV1 support.

NVIDIA Claims its AV1 Video Encoder is Superior to AMD and Intel's Alternatives

In a blog post, NVIDIA claims that its AV1 video encoder is vastly superior in terms of quality, compared to both AMD and Intel's alternatives. The still shot provided by NVIDIA to show its superior quality over its competitors, was encoded at 4K60p, obviously using the AV1 codec. Nvidia used...

www.techpowerup.com

Of course price is the main reason to get the 7900XTX over the 4090.

ARF · Jul 23, 2023

mama said:
Of course price is the main reason to get the 7900XTX over the 4090.

Price is definitely not a factor here. You get what you pay for. And RX 7900 XTX offers so low performance, that its correct market positioning is against RTX 4070 Ti. But not the rebranded as an RTX 4080-16 one, but the AD104 variant with 7680 CUDA cores and 60 ray-tracing accelerators

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 23, 2023

ARF said:
Price is definitely not a factor here. You get what you pay for. And RX 7900 XTX offers so low performance, that its correct market positioning is against RTX 4070 Ti. But not the rebranded as an RTX 4080-16 one, but the AD104 variant with 7680 CUDA cores and 60 ray-tracing accelerators

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Even that chart has it 12% faster today.
You didn't watch the video I take it.
Because if you did you know it's not about performance but daily In use experience, crashes Bsd c2d etc.

dgianstefani · Jul 23, 2023

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
Even that chart has it 12% faster today.
You didn't watch the video I take it.
Because if you did you know it's not about performance but daily In use experience, crashes Bsd c2d etc.

If you're getting BSD, C2D etc. it's a configuration problem, not a 4090 problem. Wouldn't be surprised if the YouTuber has got a borked Windows install, too many conflicting drivers or a bad PSU, that is unless the entire thing is made up for shock value to get clicks.

Or maybe he has a "stable" memory overclock or undervolt.

ARF · Jul 23, 2023

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
You didn't watch the video I take it.

I tried and actually did a fast watch just to get what he is talking about.

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
Because if you did you know it's not about performance but daily In use experience, crashes Bsd c2d etc.

Mainly software issues - must be sent to nvidia support and wait for a driver fix. Maybe?

TheoneandonlyMrK said:
Even that chart has it 12% faster today.

What is 12% faster than what?

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 23, 2023

dgianstefani said:
If you're getting BSD, C2D etc. it's a configuration problem, not a 4090 problem. Wouldn't be surprised if the YouTuber has got a borked Windows install, too many conflicting drivers or a bad PSU, that is unless the entire thing is made up for shock value to get clicks.

Or maybe he has a "stable" memory overclock or undervolt.

They are examples, you didn't watch the video.

ARF said:
I tried and actually did a fast watch just to get what he is talking about.

Mainly software issues - must be sent to nvidia support and wait for a driver fix. Maybe?

What is 12% faster than what?

The 7900Xt then a 4070Ti in your chart.

the54thvoid · Jul 23, 2023

As a forum member: I've a friend who moved from a 6900XT to a 4070ti (definite performance upgrade). However, they have issues with crashes in games that didn't exist before. They're proficient with software and know how things work. The crashes are there because compatibility isn't universal. What he has running on his set-up worked perfectly well with his 6900XT, but he moved to NV (begrudgingly) for CUDA. But it's not all been plain sailing.

---

As a mod: I'm seeing far too much red V green in this thread and none of it appears to make sense to me. I'm seeing attacks on people for buying AMD products - folks can buy what they want : stop ramming the NV is god narratiove down peoples throats. That has to stop. I'm also seeing beligerent defence of the defenceless, which is the fact that AMD on a perf/watt basis are inferior this GPU round. Stop being intentionally blind on that front.

I'm thinking about closing these pointless circle-jerk threads because most contributors are so polarised it seems impossible to see reason.

Vya Domus · Jul 23, 2023

the54thvoid said:
As a forum member: I've a friend who moved from a 6900XT to a 4070ti (definite performance upgrade). However, they have issues with crashes in games that didn't exist before. They're proficient with software and know how things work. The crashes are there because compatibility isn't universal. What he has running on his set-up worked perfectly well with his 6900XT, but he moved to NV (begrudgingly) for CUDA. But it's not all been plain sailing.

Probably a clean reinstall of all software and/or OS would fix most of these problems.

TheoneandonlyMrK · Jul 23, 2023

the54thvoid said:
As a forum member: I've a friend who moved from a 6900XT to a 4070ti (definite performance upgrade). However, they have issues with crashes in games that didn't exist before. They're proficient with software and know how things work. The crashes are there because compatibility isn't universal. What he has running on his set-up worked perfectly well with his 6900XT, but he moved to NV (begrudgingly) for CUDA. But it's not all been plain sailing.

---

As a mod: I'm seeing far too much red V green in this thread and none of it appears to make sense to me. I'm seeing attacks on people for buying AMD products - folks can buy what they want : stop ramming the NV is god narratiove down peoples throats. That has to stop. I'm also seeing beligerent defence of the defenceless, which is the fact that AMD on a perf/watt basis are inferior this GPU round. Stop being intentionally blind on that front.

I'm thinking about closing these pointless circle-jerk threads because most contributors are so polarised it seems impossible to see reason.

As I said in the OP.

The usual talk is of resolutely no issues with 4###.

The OP video is the FIRST time anyone has mentioned day to day issues.

Can I help that a member couldn't post on topic.

And isn't passing on day to day running notes normal.

At no point have I hyped the issue or overly implied it's one OEM.

And I have not insulted anyone.

I have also refrained from arguing with anyone.

My opinion got expressed and only illogical refutations were replied to beyond that?!?.

I'm not sure what else I could do.

But trust me, this is as nice as I can be to one member of staff, IE reasonable, factual and inoffensive.

I didn't insult them or anyone else.

Close this thread and all that does is promote the perfect 4### myth?!. IMHO.

I do see that few watched the video and some of those assumed a us v them stance but also some Did watch the video and therein some owners did provide some useful opinions so it's not all for naught.

P4-630 · Jul 23, 2023

A friend of mine swapped a 7900xtx for a 4090 and prefers it...

oxrufiioxo · Jul 23, 2023

Vya Domus said:
Probably a clean reinstall of all software and/or OS would fix most of these problems.

Although that would have lead to a lot less views..... Just looking at his views per video and his don't buy 4090 the 7900XTX is the shizznizzle videos have the most views by a mile.

Fluffmeister · Jul 23, 2023

The lesson here is... don't trust a man with a moustache.

Vayra86 · Jul 23, 2023

the54thvoid said:
As a forum member: I've a friend who moved from a 6900XT to a 4070ti (definite performance upgrade). However, they have issues with crashes in games that didn't exist before. They're proficient with software and know how things work. The crashes are there because compatibility isn't universal. What he has running on his set-up worked perfectly well with his 6900XT, but he moved to NV (begrudgingly) for CUDA. But it's not all been plain sailing.

---

As a mod: I'm seeing far too much red V green in this thread and none of it appears to make sense to me. I'm seeing attacks on people for buying AMD products - folks can buy what they want : stop ramming the NV is god narratiove down peoples throats. That has to stop. I'm also seeing beligerent defence of the defenceless, which is the fact that AMD on a perf/watt basis are inferior this GPU round. Stop being intentionally blind on that front.

I'm thinking about closing these pointless circle-jerk threads because most contributors are so polarised it seems impossible to see reason.

I have pointed this out several times before... you have staff that arent helpful in this mod issue you run into lately. Dont blame the userbase for that lack of insight. Look inwards. Every other path isnt going to benefit TPU. As a forum member, I have today dropped my supporter badge on tier to bronze. Im close to cancellation. Reflect

freeagent · Jul 23, 2023

And we are done

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Audio Device(s)	Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W
Mouse	Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless
Keyboard	RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless
Software	Windows 11
Benchmark Scores	Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock

System Name	His & Hers
Processor	R7 5800X/ R7 7950X3D Stock
Motherboard	X670E Aorus Pro X/ROG Crosshair VIII Hero
Cooling	Corsair h150 elite/ Corsair h115i Platinum
Memory	Trident Z5 Neo 6000/ 32 GB 3200 CL14 @3800 CL16 Team T Force Nighthawk
Video Card(s)	Evga FTW 3 Ultra 3080ti/ Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090
Storage	lots of SSD.
Display(s)	A whole bunch OLED, VA, IPS.....
Case	011 Dynamic XL/ Phanteks Evolv X
Audio Device(s)	Arctis Pro + gaming Dac/ Corsair sp 2500/ Logitech G560/Samsung Q990B
Power Supply	Seasonic Ultra Prime Titanium 1000w/850w
Mouse	Logitech G502 Lightspeed/ Logitech G Pro Hero.
Keyboard	Logitech - G915 LIGHTSPEED / Logitech G Pro

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D
Motherboard	MSI MAG B550 TOMAHAWK
Cooling	Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE
Memory	Team Group Dark Pro 8Pack Edition 3600Mhz CL16
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3080 FE
Storage	Kingston A2000 1TB + Seagate HDD workhorse
Display(s)	Hisense 55" U7K
Case	Antec 1200
Power Supply	Seasonic Focus GX-850
Mouse	Razer Deathadder Chroma
Keyboard	Logitech UltraX
Software	Windows 11

System Name	Tiny the White Yeti
Processor	7800X3D
Motherboard	MSI MAG Mortar b650m wifi
Cooling	CPU: Thermalright Peerless Assassin / Case: Phanteks T30-120 x3
Memory	32GB Corsair Vengeance 30CL6000
Video Card(s)	ASRock RX7900XT Phantom Gaming
Storage	Lexar NM790 4TB + Samsung 850 EVO 1TB + Samsung 980 1TB + Crucial BX100 250GB
Display(s)	Gigabyte G34QWC (3440x1440)
Case	Lian Li A3 mATX White
Audio Device(s)	Harman Kardon AVR137 + 2.1
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova G2 750W
Mouse	Steelseries Aerox 5
Keyboard	Lenovo Thinkpad Trackpoint II
VR HMD	HD 420 - Green Edition ;)
Software	W11 IoT Enterprise LTSC
Benchmark Scores	Over 9000