Achieving the advertised all core boost of the 13700HX

[Bogus5]

Works fine, it's a laptop with i9-13980HX CPU.

 

[thesmokingman]

All core clocks is so five years ago.

 

[VortexSupernova]

Hi UncleWebb and folks!

Recently got an HP Victus 16-r0xxx with a 13700HX and an RTX 4060. I'm on F.11 BIOS and have found success with using Throttlestop to tweak my core multipliers, PL1/PL2, and battery saving profiles to fit my gaming/productivity needs.

However, I have run into a few problems - I cannot for the life of me get my processor to boost to the advertised all core boost of 4.5ghz. Even if I set the x7/x8 multipliers in Throttlestop and XTU to 4.5ghz, at most the core effective clock will max out at 3.7/3.8ghz as reported by HWInfo64. And it is not due to thermal throttling - at least initially.


Furthermore, I cannot seem to raise my PL1 above 130 watts. If I set it above 130w in Throttlestop, I do not see any max package power above 130w as reported by HWInfo64. I understand that this is probably a board power limit set in the EC, but would that account for the ridiculously low all core boost I am experiencing? Or is there a separate EC setting that is also limiting the max core frequency?

Attaching some screenshots of my main/FIVR/TPL windows for reference.

Just note I haven't read anything in this thread yet, but I'll tell you how to destroy any barriers on your CPU. Firstly, if your thermals aren't good, you'll need to request a liquid metal repaste. Then, there's a few options. There's a setting in BIOS called "Energy Efficient Turbo Boost"; it's what causes your CPU to clock down due to lack of load, it functions similarly to C1E. Turning it off, as well as C1E, and Speedstep, will bring you closer to maximising clock speeds at all times. Note, this is quite significant on temperatures, because your CPU won't back off on the clocks unless it suddenly hits a current, power, or heat limit. You'll likely need to access a locked Advanced BIOS to find that.

Also, set speed shift EPP to 0.

If you can't get over 130W, you've been hardlocked by your EC (embedded controller); it's the method your manufacturer uses to restrict you. We can circumvent this, however, with something called IMON slope and offset. It's another Advanced BIOS setting. If you can reach it (it's part of the CPU VR settings) then you're halfway to destroying the EC's ability to restrict you. I have the i9-11900H and my hardlock is 110W, but I can pull up to a predicted 200W with this method. As soon as you commit to this, you will notice your idle usage will be like 3W, which will seem very weird. it's not real. IMON is a method used to under-report power draw. Setting the "slope" to something like 50 will mean 50% of the real power draw is reported, so your 130W hardlock will technically only kick in at 260W (50% of 260W is 130W, which is your hardlock).
In throttlestop, set both PL1 and PL2 to 130. It doesn't matter, all the things you need to change are in BIOS at this point.

Also if you've got a lot of thermal headroom, start overclocking. I'm pushing 4.9GHz on all-core loads, whereas my turbo ratios would only allow 4.4Ghz back when I hadn't overclocked. Don't let your manufacturer keep you from your performance haha.
I've got an entire guide about this shit, but it's aimed at Acer Nitro and Predator laptops since I have a Nitro.
Again, let me iterate that 130W is not the mobo's limit, it's the hardlocked limit set from the EC. My mobo can draw 160W easily, with a hardlock at 110W. After around 28 seconds of 80W+ my EC will lock my system down to 70W, it's very fricking annoying, which is why I have to use IMON slope.

 

[MOCCOR]

Hi UncleWebb and folks!

Recently got an HP Victus 16-r0xxx with a 13700HX and an RTX 4060. I'm on F.11 BIOS and have found success with using Throttlestop to tweak my core multipliers, PL1/PL2, and battery saving profiles to fit my gaming/productivity needs.

However, I have run into a few problems - I cannot for the life of me get my processor to boost to the advertised all core boost of 4.5ghz. Even if I set the x7/x8 multipliers in Throttlestop and XTU to 4.5ghz, at most the core effective clock will max out at 3.7/3.8ghz as reported by HWInfo64. And it is not due to thermal throttling - at least initially.


Furthermore, I cannot seem to raise my PL1 above 130 watts. If I set it above 130w in Throttlestop, I do not see any max package power above 130w as reported by HWInfo64. I understand that this is probably a board power limit set in the EC, but would that account for the ridiculously low all core boost I am experiencing? Or is there a separate EC setting that is also limiting the max core frequency?

Attaching some screenshots of my main/FIVR/TPL windows for reference.

Can I ask how you are able to undervolt on this laptop? I assume doing the normal disabling the "virtual" features? Just curious cuz I know many people say its not possible on some laptops, but I wonder if it is just misinformation for my 16-r0073cl