Alan Wake 2 Performance Benchmark

[Trunks0]

Not worth it.. If you max out settings on games like Alan Wake 2 or Cyberpunk, the 4080 gets slow as hell, even @1440p. Unless you like to play @35-45 FPS... Even the 4090 takes a beating when path tracing comes to play.
Better tweak the games to get acceptable frame rates with your 6800 now and wait for 50XX series... Hopefully nVidia gets their shit together and ray tracing/path tracing gets to be more usable.

Yeah that wouldn't be worth it. Alan Wake 2 is a good game... but it's kind of a small game. I don't think I would upgrade just for this game. The 6800 can managed decent frame rates @ 1440p+FSR 2 Q with medium/high settings with RT off. Which honestly looks pretty damn great in this game. You would be far better off waiting till faster hardware to comes out, than a GPU upgrade for this game.

And if you really wanted to... you could look into using the AFMF preview driver to boost that 60-70fps into the 120-140 range using AMD's driver side Frame Generation/Interpolation tech.

 

[lksks]

Wow, 4070 is truly a bad card, got beat by 3080 in every settings and resolution

 

[VictorLGC]

Wow, 4070 is truly a bad card, got beat by 3080 in every settings and resolution

This game is interesting... It really needs GPU horsepower... Like the 3090ti beat the 4070ti as well...

Of course there's frame generation (aka fake frames) but I personally hate it. When I had a 4080 I never used it.

 

[dinooxxx]

Ark Survival Ascended should make for a Great review , it contains most of Unreal Engine 5.2 features.
Love your indept game reviews!
Keep the good work !

 

[Guwapo77]

Some games do run on a 1630. Alan Wake 2, while might be a good game, isn't the be-all-end-all of gaming, not to mention, it was nowhere to be seen when the 1630 was released. Besides, the 1630 is built on the Turing architecture, which is 2 generations old by now. So if we really think about it, neither Nvidia, nor AMD has a truly current-gen entry level card.

If I was buying a gaming card today knowing what of this generation of games are, would I buy a 1630/1660 or anything that can't support DX12? No. If you do, you're just throwing your money a way. There for the xx50/xx60 is your entry level card based on what I said above for above 30 fps minimum at 1080p. Clutch your pearls, I know its shocking...the entry level has changed.

 

[VictorLGC]

If I was buying a gaming card today knowing what of this generation of games are, would I buy a 1630/1660 or anything that can't support DX12? No. If you do, you're just throwing your money a way. There for the xx50/xx60 is your entry level card based on what I said above for above 30 fps minimum at 1080p. Clutch your pearls, I know its shocking...the entry level has changed.

I believe the current entry-level card from nVidia is the 3050. Unless you count the GTX 1030 and 1050 low profile cards sold for office PCs and HTPCs...

Also, GTX16X0 supports DX12, just not DX12 Ultimate, which include Ray Tracing, and other newer capabilities.

 

[nguyen]

Hm...Just got to where W1zzard took those screenshots and the PathTracing image quality has been much improved, pathtracing look way better than rasterization now
Pathtrace vs Raster
All the noisy SSR is gone, light bleeding through table is gone with pathtracing

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Alan Wake 2's minimum specs have disqualified my gaming laptop, and now I question the financial viability of PC gaming

Opinion | Are AW2's demanding GPU requirements a new normal? Hopefully not

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The end result of Huang's hubris.

 

[Macro Device]

Alan Wake 2's minimum specs have disqualified my gaming laptop, and now I question the financial viability of PC gaming

Opinion | Are AW2's demanding GPU requirements a new normal? Hopefully not

www.gamesradar.com

"Gaming" on top of GTX 1650 Ti cracked me up a little bit.

But yeah, AW2 is seriously overdemanding.

 

[JustBenching]

Alan Wake 2's minimum specs have disqualified my gaming laptop, and now I question the financial viability of PC gaming

Opinion | Are AW2's demanding GPU requirements a new normal? Hopefully not

www.gamesradar.com

The end result of Huang's hubris.

That article is straight up lying in so many different aspects, lol. The oldest GPU that can play Alan wake is a 3060 from 2021? Really now? So a 3090 from 2020 can't play it? How about a 2080ti from 2018?

So typical, when it comes to blaming nvidia for anything, truth isn't really a prime concern.

"Gaming" on top of GTX 1650 Ti cracked me up a little bit.

But yeah, AW2 is seriously overdemanding.

The 1650ti is a mobile version of a very old (released in 2019) card that wasn't even high end back when it was new. People expecting to play the latest and greatest games on mobile versions of 5 year old entry level GPUs is mind boggling. Just to understand what we are talking about here, the 1650ti is as fast as the 980m, a mobile GPU released in 2014....

EG1. And after reading the comments on that article, yeah the author is straight up lying. No way she paid 2000 pounds as she is claiming for a 1650 laptop in 2020. With that money youd be getting a 2070super minimum.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

That article is straight up lying in so many different aspects, lol. The oldest GPU that can play Alan wake is a 3060 from 2021? Really now? So a 3090 from 2020 can't play it? How about a 2080ti from 2018?

So typical, when it comes to blaming nvidia for anything, truth isn't really a prime concern.


The 1650ti is a mobile version of a very old (released in 2019) card that wasn't even high end back when it was new. People expecting to play the latest and greatest games on mobile versions of 5 year old entry level GPUs is mind boggling. Just to understand what we are talking about here, the 1650ti is as fast as the 980m, a mobile GPU released in 2014....

And he payed £2k for it in 2020

 

[JustBenching]

And he payed £2k for it in 2020

Yeah, just read the comments. Seems suspect....

 

[AusWolf]

If I was buying a gaming card today knowing what of this generation of games are, would I buy a 1630/1660 or anything that can't support DX12? No. If you do, you're just throwing your money a way.

That's what I mean. The 1630 is two generations old by now. It's not a current gen entry level card by any means. It's a two generations old entry level card.

Clutch your pearls, I know its shocking...the entry level has changed.

No, it hasn't. It only disappeared. 1080p + Ultra graphics is not entry level in my books. It's mid-range.

Alan Wake 2's minimum specs have disqualified my gaming laptop, and now I question the financial viability of PC gaming

Opinion | Are AW2's demanding GPU requirements a new normal? Hopefully not

www.gamesradar.com

The end result of Huang's hubris.

Mobile 1650... gaming laptop... wow, what a deep illusion the writer lives in!

It reminds me of when colleagues ask me which gaming laptop they should buy. My only answer to them is: don't.

 

[cowcatwithahat]

Did you compare with the Max settings picture ? Look at the lights in right middle of the picture , they are broken compared with the simple RT.

Thank you for pointing it out, it`s definitely a difference.
I am confused now as I do not know which is the correct light representation of the scene.
The RT and RT+RR looks superb but, the PT is supposedly more realistic, which one should I believe?

 

[Sptz]

Yeah, actually this is one of my favorite things about Heroic--it allows you to automate adding games to Steam, or rather, it makes adding EGS/GOG games to Steam a one-click affair. This is more relevant to me on Linux, where the benefits of running through Steam are much more pronounced (and also where Playnite doesn't exist), but it works on Windows too. (Again, though, you do need to leave Heroic installed after importing the game to Steam; adding it to Steam simply lets you access the game from your Steam library, use Steam overlay/controller features, etc. It also makes Heroic's contribution a background thing, launching it through CLI. You can't get around certain games needing certain launchers, but you can minimize their presence.)

I used to use GoG Galaxy, mostly because it allowed me to list all of my owned games in one place--very helpful during a sale, to prevent you from buying a game twice, lol. But GOG Galaxy has been a beta product for years now, and it shows. Its Steam plugin routinely breaks.

You're right of course to be skeptical of extra launchers. Tinkering with launchers can become a job in and of itself. Playnite for example has enough options and plugins to make your head spin. But leaving Playnite aside, and to be super clear: Heroic REPLACES the Epic launcher. It isn't a supplement. I haven't had the Epic Launcher installed in more than a year.

Oh really? Can I then uninstall Epic Launcher, install Heroic and it will pickup the installed games? In this case it's literally only AW2 lool. Can you turn off achievement notifications etc?

 

[theouto]

Playing the game, 3 things came to mind in regards to performance:
Wow, this runs really well for how it looks!
Wow, upscaling is actually not that noticeable 99% of the times if you don't forcefully turn off post processing!
Wow, the post processing is incredibly demanding!

On that last one though, in new york I went from 60 to 100 from going FSRAA to FSRQ, the jump is never this big, and we know thanks to DF that the post processing is very heavy to run, and leads to major performance setbacks when running at native res

 

[Vayra86]

More money than I know what to do with... Anyways... Entry level Nvidia cards are RTX xx50/xx60. Main stream is RX xx60Ti to xx70Ti. High end/enthusiast is xx80 to xx80Ti. Extreme xx90 to xx90Ti. If you are talking GTX anything as entry level, I can't help do anything for you. We aren't speaking the same language.

Basing the card on a price segment is a fools errand. So during the crypto boom when a 60s card was $700 did it get promoted to mainstream? Its really based on the the last two digits of the model number. I'm glad you mentioned the PS5 because it is a beautiful piece of machinery and yes...its basically a budget PC aka entry level with the sole focus of gaming. I love my PS5 and can't wait for the PS5 Pro model. Playing Spiderman 2 on a 4K OLED, its squarely in the entry level for gaming. That doesn't make it bad by any means, it is what it is.

I'm not crapping on anyone who can't afford anything above entry level, we've all been there at one point in life. I know damn sure I have been. However, I currently play @ 1440p and anything on the GTX silicon is even a consideration. I may as well have an APU.

Nope. x60 is definitely midrange. Always was. Even x50ti was generally 'the little guy that could' and not really entry level. The 750ti Boost was early Maxwell and pretty strong. Heck, Pascal had a 4GB 1050ti that would age better than the 3GB 1060 in some games.. And the 1060 6GB is simply a capable card. The 2060 is also def not entry level. You dont early adopt RT on a GTX 1080 copy and call it entry level

Ada didnt set a new norm or anything. Its just an outlier in how shit it is the further you go down the stack. Worse than anything that preceded it below the 4090 really.

Yeah, just read the comments. Seems suspect....

They call it clickbait. 90% of these sites run the same stories based on datamined popularity stats. They write (freelancers mind) what the search engine wants to hear.

 

[Guwapo77]

I believe the current entry-level card from nVidia is the 3050. Unless you count the GTX 1030 and 1050 low profile cards sold for office PCs and HTPCs...

Also, GTX16X0 supports DX12, just not DX12 Ultimate, which include Ray Tracing, and other newer capabilities.

I most certainly stated the xx50/60 are entry level with xx60Ti slappin' hard into the mid range. The performance gap between the 60/60Ti is pretty sizable. Anywho, to make sure I wasn't losing my mind I did traverse multiple websites since the start of this discussion and numerous article authors agreed. However, I'll take this L here as I'm done with this topic. I wave the flag of surrender.

 

[Vayra86]

I most certainly stated the xx50/60 are entry level with xx60Ti slappin' hard into the mid range. The performance gap between the 60/60Ti is pretty sizable. Anywho, to make sure I wasn't losing my mind I did traverse multiple websites since the start of this discussion and numerous article authors agreed. However, I'll take this L here as I'm done with this topic. I wave the flag of surrender.

Yeah, its always a difficult discussion anyway, perspective is everything if you want to paint a stack of GPUs in certain colors or positions. Similar stuff happens at the high end vs the mid range. Does it start at x70? x80? And enthusiast? Is a 1200 dollar card enthusiast level, or is it actually upper mid range given the hardware in a 4080? I'll wave that flag with you to be honest.

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Yeah f#@# peasants with they're old laptops:/ wtaf.?;?

Point being, the ticket for entry price isn't going down like it was , it's scaling to thf£@#£& moon .

I personally can't wait for the botching some will do when AI pushes Nvidia's prices even higher

 

[AusWolf]

Yeah, its always a difficult discussion anyway, perspective is everything if you want to paint a stack of GPUs in certain colors or positions. Similar stuff happens at the high end vs the mid range. Does it start at x70? x80? And enthusiast? Is a 1200 dollar card enthusiast level, or is it actually upper mid range given the hardware in a 4080? I'll wave that flag with you to be honest.

It's not a difficult discussion, imo. $300 is not entry level. Reviewers can enjoy their first class seats on the Nvidia marketing bandwagon and call the 4080 entry level if all I care. I won't. End of.

If waving the white flag means sticking to our opinions while accepting others', then I'll do that too.

Yeah f#@# peasants with they're old laptops:/ wtaf.?;?

Rule of thumb: don't buy a laptop for gaming and expect it to last.

Point being, the ticket for entry price isn't going down like it was , it's scaling to thf£@#£& moon .

I personally can't wait for the botching some will do when AI pushes Nvidia's prices even higher

Agreed.

 

[Guwapo77]

It's not a difficult discussion, imo. $300 is not entry level. Reviewers can enjoy their first class seats on the Nvidia marketing bandwagon and call the 4080 entry level if all I care. I won't. End of.

If waving the white flag means sticking to our opinions while accepting others', then I'll do that too.


Rule of thumb: don't buy a laptop for gaming and expect it to last.


Agreed.

Again, that is your opinion. Let it the congregation rest bro, let'em rest.

The white flag means I do NOT need to accept your opinion, but I'll let you believe what you wish and I'll continue on with my thoughts on the matter.

 

[wolf]

Wow, this runs really well for how it looks!
Wow, upscaling is actually not that noticeable 99% of the times if you don't forcefully turn off post processing!
Wow, the post processing is incredibly demanding!

Caved and found a deal on AW2 and am about 2 hours in and have to agree, I think it runs quite well for how it looks. Played around with a tonne of settings so far and can very easily get a 60+ fps experience, at 4k output, using DLSS Balanced or higher using settings above those on either premium console (including input resolution). No question I'm getting an experience that is visually superior to either consoles quality mode, at over double the framerate (as one example of how one could set it up to run). Game is stunning and engaging, typically not my genre, but I am really enjoying it so far.

Please don't take this post too seriously

Don't worry I didn't, not even quite sure what you were trying to get at with the (admitted) cherry picked results and 10GB mentions. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't advocate for a 10GB card at $699 MSRP in 2023 (I don't advocate for the 12GB cards at or above those prices), but over 3 years ago when I got it? proving to be a pretty solid purchase, for multiple reasons including what I posted above your quote. If you don't agree, that's fine. You're wrong, but it's fine.

 

[FoulOnWhite]

Caved and found a deal on AW2 and am about 2 hours in and have to agree, I think it runs quite well for how it looks. Played around with a tonne of settings so far and can very easily get a 60+ fps experience, at 4k output, using DLSS Balanced or higher using settings above those on either premium console (including input resolution). No question I'm getting an experience that is visually superior to either consoles quality mode, at over double the framerate (as one example of how one could set it up to run). Game is stunning and engaging, typically not my genre, but I am really enjoying it so far.

Don't worry I didn't, not even quite sure what you were trying to get at with the (admitted) cherry picked results and 10GB mentions. Now don't get me wrong, I wouldn't advocate for a 10GB card at $699 MSRP in 2023 (I don't advocate for the 12GB cards at or above those prices), but over 3 years ago when I got it? proving to be a pretty solid purchase, for multiple reasons including what I posted above your quote. If you don't agree, that's fine. You're wrong, but it's fine.

The only real upgrade to a 3080 now is a 4080, imo even a 4070ti is not quite as good and definatley not a 4070, so i still don't mind my 3080 10gb, which at the time was a big upgrade from a 1080ti

 

[ewitte]

The 3060 is not entry level. It is the #1 GPU used on steam and is mainstream as it gets. More people will use that GPU to play Alan Wake 2 than any other. So seeing how it runs on the game is actually really informative for a lot of gamers.

xx60 series is usually bare bones for gaming based on performance. Anything lower is for indie/old games, htpc, display output, etc. Sometimes you can squeeze out decent settings with a xx50ti card.