I'm really looking forward the BD refresh of Llano later this year to close the CPU gap (a little). Until then the overclocking will help against the locked Intel chips of which Llano competes.
Is it really coming this year?
I'm really looking forward the BD refresh of Llano later this year to close the CPU gap (a little). Until then the overclocking will help against the locked Intel chips of which Llano competes.
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Of course the Intel is faster in a benchmark,many benchmarks are optimized for a Intel processor. Also,the SB chip has hardware optimizations to boost benchmark scores that the AMD Llano does not.
In day to day usage ( which is what Llano is made for) most users don't care,they will see that the GPU runs programs better than the Intel "HD" graphics.
Check out the mobile power use here- http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/a8-3500m-llano-apu,review-32207.html
It has better power consumption than the Intel,yet has a better GPU,and still good CPU power.
Is it really coming this year?
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I thought the point was that Intel is faster. Of course you don't notice anything when playing Farmville and watch Youtube videos, but they are still faster. In real world applications, too, that require a lot of power.
But Llano is not about raw performance anyway, so it's kinda useless to debate it.
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off course SB was a lot of faster in cpu calculation, how many times this should be discussed because we already knew that?
but the problem is that your forgot that this thread headline is about IGP performance not CPU, which SB graphics cant compete with APU..
so if you keep talking about raw CPU performance, its kinda useless to debate it here..
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Totaly agree with you, but the topic did come up and people was saying that the difference wasn't so big it mattered. Which is wrong.
You have to remember,it cost more to have them separate ...
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Holy Shit!!!!!
My Phenom II 955 @3.8Ghz with a 1Gb Radeon 4850 only gets 13450 in 3dMark 2006.....
It's actually worse, because the user would have to replace both the CPU and GPU if one of them died, since they are in the same package.
i hope it would trigger high performance on handheld or portable device