AMD Announces Radeon RX 6600 XT Graphics Card

[HD64G]

With SAM enable at 1080p , and without Sam it's equal or a bit worse than 3060 for sure. I intend to buy a sub 200mm pcb from amd but since there is no option though i would just grab the zotac 3070 or a ref 3080 for me.......i regret alot to purchase the 3090........

SAM is enabled on both AMD and nVidia latest GPUs so why without it AMD loses performance advantage?

 

[Zubasa]

With SAM enable at 1080p , and without Sam it's equal or a bit worse than 3060 for sure. I intend to buy a sub 200mm pcb from amd but since there is no option though i would just grab the zotac 3070 or a ref 3080 for me.......i regret alot to purchase the 3090........

So because you don't get a lower price gpu, you go ahead and buy higher price products to encourage higher priced gpus.
Makes perfect sense.

 

[gasolina]

So because you don't get a lower price gpu, you go ahead and buy higher price products to encourage higher priced gpus.
Makes perfect sense.

i bought the 3090 from a chiphell reviewer from china a pair without the ref heatsink just 13500¥ which is around 2200$ pretty a good deal for me to take .

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SAM is enabled on both AMD and nVidia latest GPUs so why without it AMD loses performance advantage?

as i test both my amd and nvidia gpu amd gain more than nvidia. Nvidia resizable bar barely noticable , but testing them both at 4k pretty much no gain for my case. i wont believe in cherry pick just 20-30AAA games we will get a clear picture

 

[olymind1]

So what would you rather see, AMD dropping price by another 80 bucks and some random dude eating that profit, or rather having the company that was starving financially for decades and wrecked havoc on GPU/CPU markets in a great way (8 core CPU was $1000 before ryzing, 2080Ti level performance was $1.2k) build a bit of fat / have money to increase R&D spending?

For me it's a no brainer.

Or make a BBA (or hire Sapphire to make) RX 6600 XT dual fan version card and sell it at AMD's website with worldwide shipping at/for 300$/€. No more scalping...

4% better generational price to performance ratio on MSRP is a good thing?

Someone at AMD bought Intel's playbook. How to release new product while not offering performance increase at the same price(category).

Plus I don't find RDNA2 pricing "phenomenally good" at all.

RDNA1 was also overpriced. For example the RX5500 XT wasn't much of an upgrade from the RX480 4 GB (200$). The first noticeable upgrade was the 5600XT 6 GB for 280$ (80$ price difference).

So that is AMD's latest trend. Look at their cpu prices too. I liked this company, but currently i really don't.

however the +$180 increase in price from R9 380 to 6600XT drives you nuts. Seriously?

Or RX480 4 GB 200$/€ -> RX6600XT 8 GB 380$/€ is also a pretty disgusting move. The RX5600XT 6GB 280$ -> RX6600XT 8GB 380$ isn't any better...

I bought AMD cards, because they were cheaper and offered better options than NV (like 1060 3gb vs 480 4 GB). For the same reason i bought their cpus too. At the moment i don't find (either of) their lineup desirable to buy.

Of course IMO.

 

[london]

GeForce GTX 1060 is an AWESOME still relevant gpu with 6 gigs of ram and a 192-bit bus. and a low 120w TDP- this TRASH has a 128 bit bus!!! consumes 160 to 180W* ???? does not even have a full x16! (x8) ??? and comes with 8 gigs in 2021, performa a bit bettar than a 5700 for almost 400$ ( x2 retail) i think this is the worst GPU in HISTORY! and the worst AMD!

 

[regs]

GeForce GTX 1060 is an AWESOME still relevant gpu with 6 gigs of ram and a 192-bit bus. and a low 120w TDP- this TRASH has a 128 bit bus!!! consumes 160 to 180W* ???? does not even have a full x16! (x8) ??? and comes with 8 gigs in 2021, performa a bit bettar than a 5700 for almost 400$ ( x2 retail) i think this is the worst GPU in HISTORY! and the worst AMD!

But you get 2.5x price and performance of 1060

 

[jaszy]

But you get 2.5x price and performance of 1060

Ah yes, that justifies progression/pricing...

It's funny though. Buying a GTX970 for $330 MSRP~ in 2014 got you a top end GPU in performance charts. Was also one of the best performance per wattage.

Now? A low end GPU is somehow $400 bucks due to a global shortage and mining craze. Something that would have formally fell into a 250~ USD price bracket with inflation metrics. Crazy.

 

[Fatalfury]

rx 5600 xt for $279 was called by AMD themselves as the ultimate 1080p gaming card.
not sure why there is another one for a much higher price..

 

[Chrispy_]

Even if the AMD slides vs the 3060 are representative of all games in all scenarios (and decades of independent reviews has taught us that they're unlikely to be a fair representation) then what we have is a card that is only at price/perf parity with Nvidia, and yet it comes with:

• Less VRAM
• Significantly worse raytracing performance
• Worse AI upscaling (FFX vs DLSS)
• Significantly worse encoder
• Fewer supported games (because not all RTX games are also DX12 DXR games)

I feel that AMD will be lucky to sell these for more than a 3060. The small performance advantage might be enough to tempt buyers away from the list of negatives I've just mentioned. The biggest problem is that the 3060Ti's MSRP is only $20 higher and the 3060Ti will slap the 6600XT around like it's a joke.

 

[N3M3515]

Even if the AMD slides vs the 3060 are representative of all games in all scenarios (and decades of independent reviews has taught us that they're unlikely to be a fair representation) then what we have is a card that is only at price/perf parity with Nvidia, and yet it comes with:

• Less VRAM
• Significantly worse raytracing performance
• Worse AI upscaling (FFX vs DLSS)
• Significantly worse encoder
• Fewer supported games (because not all RTX games are also DX12 DXR games)

I feel that AMD will be lucky to sell these for more than a 3060. The small performance advantage might be enough to tempt buyers away from the list of negatives I've just mentioned. The biggest problem is that the 3060Ti's MSRP is only $20 higher and the 3060Ti will slap the 6600XT around like it's a joke.

• Less VRAM --- at this tier that does not matter
• Significantly worse raytracing performance --- none of them can do rt lol....
• Worse AI upscaling (FFX vs DLSS) --- for now, at it's almost equal at the highest preset
• Significantly worse encoder --- won't comment, don't know what's that for
• Fewer supported games (because not all RTX games are also DX12 DXR games) --- for now

This list is kind of irrelevant............Both of them are overpriced pieces of shite.

 

[medi01]

That's exactly what I would EXPECT to see from AMD, because once MSRP is set, it's here to stay. It will not go down, not even after TSMC's supply bottleneck eases and mining craze goes away.

I doubt that. It is not how pricing works at all.

Plus I don't find RDNA2 pricing "phenomenally good" at all. MSRP prices offers the same value as Ampere lineup.

What on earth ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT kid?
How freaking clueless could one be, holy, freaking, smoke?!?!?

It's like saying "hey, Ryzen pricing wasn't great, see, I can buy 8 core Intel CPUs for WAY LESS than $1k".
Yeah, NOW you can.

RDNA2 wrecked HAVOC on Ampere lineup.
No, NV did NOT plan to sell you 3080 for $699. It was supposed to be higher tier card with 20GB VRAM.
No, NV did NOT plan to sell you 2080Ti performance for $499 either (3070) it was supposed to be a higher tier card with 16GB.
Oh, you see that 3060 that has MORE VRAM THAN 3080? Oh, that's why all that happened, you know, when you drop a tier on cards and suddenly without planned outrageous pricing old VRAM configs no longer work.

this should be a $250 gpu.

Go.
Buy.
That $250 GPU.
From AMD's competitor.

Worse AI upscaling (FFX vs DLSS)

1) it is called FSR
2) It doesn't use AI buzzwords, stop attaching it to it
3) All reviewers, but DF (who franly shat their pants) were positive about FSR, literally stating "at ultra quality nearly indistinguishable from native" (despite solid fps boost)
4) Some found it to be better than DLSS reviewing them in the same game

NVIDIA DLSS and AMD FSR in DIRECT comparison | Performance boost and quality check in practice | Page 4 | igor´sLAB

Disclaimer: The following article is machine translated from the original German, and has not been edited or checked for errors. Thank you for understanding!

www.igorslab.de

Significantly worse raytracing performance

Only in significantly (and specifically) crippled (ancient) titles. (if one bothers with that "kill my fps" gimmick to begin with)

Fewer supported games (because not all RTX games are also DX12 DXR games)

Poor AMD. Having it's APUs in:
* PS4, PS5
* XSeX, Xbox something and xbox something else
* Steam Deck

How could it cope with game developers simply ignoring it... poor, poor team red...

 

[N3M3515]

That $250 GPU.

Hehe...... I don't mind waiting for prices to go down. I do not have a need to play the latest games. I do not have a compulsion to buy any gpu right now, nor do i need one. If and when i want to, it will be a $250 - $300 gpu (with great performance per buck of course).

 

[Mister300]

GeForce GTX 1060 is an AWESOME still relevant gpu with 6 gigs of ram and a 192-bit bus. and a low 120w TDP- this TRASH has a 128 bit bus!!! consumes 160 to 180W* ???? does not even have a full x16! (x8) ??? and comes with 8 gigs in 2021, performa a bit bettar than a 5700 for almost 400$ ( x2 retail) i think this is the worst GPU in HISTORY! and the worst AMD!

Another sobering fact my XFX 390X that just gave up the magic smoke had 64 ROP, 44 CU, 422Gig/sec memory BW when OCed, circa 2015 at a price of 379 USD. No thanks AMD, this should be a 200 card.