AMD Catalyst 12.1 Preview Drivers Released, Support HD 7900 Series

jonathan1107 · Dec 14, 2011

lol... clearly, I didn't get my cofee this morning...

I'm going to get it right now :O(

t_ski · Dec 14, 2011

Trickson, you will probably want to stick with older drivers. Most times I have seen new drivers installed on older hardware, there were plenty of issues or poor performance. Sticking with the last known stable drivers would be highly recommended.

AphexDreamer · Dec 14, 2011

FreedomEclipse said:
afaik you need at least 100Hz monitor or above to do 3D

I don't believe that is true since I've read people doing it with 60hz monitor 30 on each eye and with films they do 24 each eye.

Black Panther · Dec 15, 2011

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I definitely recommend using 12.1 over 11.12 - it's got the latest fixes and new features. 12.1 Preview is supported on Mobility Radeon too

TheoneandonlyMrK · Dec 15, 2011

AphexDreamer said:
Is there anyway to enable 3D gaming on any ol 60Hz 1080p Monitor now?

+1 even if its like nvidias suck it and see version of red n green offset 3d

pantherx12 · Dec 15, 2011

AphexDreamer said:
I don't believe that is true since I've read people doing it with 60hz monitor 30 on each eye and with films they do 24 each eye.

It doesn't quite work properly for the vast majority.

If I set the screen to 30hz not only does every thing seem choppier, I can actually see the monitor refresh :laugh:

AsRock · Dec 15, 2011

pantherx12 said:
It doesn't quite work properly for the vast majority.

If I set the screen to 30hz not only does every thing seem choppier, I can actually see the monitor refresh

I get that to. although was worse in CRT days as any thing lower than 75hz it kills my eyes and could see it refreshing.

I find games and movies different as with games your controlling the moment and i seem to see it more then. Never had the issue with any bluray or DVD movie..

Wrigleyvillain · Dec 15, 2011

These work great so far. Welcome new features too. Anyone got more info on the new CrossfireX options?

Mussels · Dec 15, 2011

Wrigleyvillain said:
These work great so far. Welcome new features too. Anyone got more info on the new CrossfireX options?

add an exe, pick a crossfire mode.

Wrigleyvillain · Dec 15, 2011

Right I get that part and am familiar with profiles from Radeon Pro and what not but less so with the various options like AFR or 1x1 and which is best for which situation. Guess need to read up on multi-gpu tech a bit further.

Though I guess I don't really fully get the use of game profiles either unless forcing one for a different title in order to trick Crossfire into working.

Mussels · Dec 15, 2011

Wrigleyvillain said:
Right I get that part and am familiar with profiles from Radeon Pro and what not but less so with the various options like AFR or 1x1 and which is best for which situation. Guess need to read up on multi-gpu tech a bit further.

Though I guess I don't really fully get the use of game profiles either unless forcing one for a different title in order to trick Crossfire into working.

you can force crossfire on games that dont have a profile yet, or say with skyrim, you could change profiles to avoid all the artifacting we had on launch.

as for per game profiles, easy. starcraft II has no AA, so now you can force AA for just that one game...

Gzero · Dec 16, 2011

Finding these drivers to be a bit rubbish, who knows if I gained any fps but I'm getting flickering in Skyrim even worse than ever unless I turn off cfx, tried forcing AFR but didn't help, and when I clicked on application profiles CCC just closed itself. Did another factory reset to get it to behave, I know it's preview but how can you have such bad exception checking in something you are releasing to the public... :S

trickson · Dec 16, 2011

Gzero said:
Finding these drivers to be a bit rubbish, who knows if I gained any fps but I'm getting flickering in Skyrim even worse than ever unless I turn off cfx, tried forcing AFR but didn't help, and when I clicked on application profiles CCC just closed itself. Did another factory reset to get it to behave, I know it's preview but how can you have such bad exception checking in something you are releasing to the public... :S

This is one reason I never use the preview drivers , They are just that a preview of what is to come . Now the only way you will know if you are getting any performance increase with new drivers is to benchmark them . And on a side note if you are having so much trouble with that game than maybe it is the GAME not the drivers so much . Maybe the game has bugs still in it and that is why there are so many still having trouble with it ? no one ever seems to think it could be the game and not the hardware . Cheer up talk to the games manufacture about this .

Mussels · Dec 16, 2011

Gzero said:
Finding these drivers to be a bit rubbish, who knows if I gained any fps but I'm getting flickering in Skyrim even worse than ever unless I turn off cfx, tried forcing AFR but didn't help, and when I clicked on application profiles CCC just closed itself. Did another factory reset to get it to behave, I know it's preview but how can you have such bad exception checking in something you are releasing to the public... :S

did you restore defaults like it said in the release notes?

Gzero · Dec 16, 2011

Mussels said:
did you restore defaults like it said in the release notes?

Plenty of times. I checked under Use AMD pre defined profiles option and there is no Skyrim in that list. :S

Bf3, DEHR and a few other games are though.

Wrigleyvillain · Dec 16, 2011

Great IQ in Skyrim and no issues here as yet. I did not do clean install or reset defaults either.

Mussels · Dec 16, 2011

Gzero said:
Plenty of times. I checked under Use AMD pre defined profiles option and there is no Skyrim in that list. :S

Bf3, DEHR and a few other games are though.

crossfire worked for me, even with it not showing in that list. you're supposed to add the .exe in the topmost option, and customise it yourself.

what you were doing was changing a blank profile not associated with any games - you have to choose the .exe and save it for it to make a difference.

blandead · Dec 16, 2011

Gzero said:
Plenty of times. I checked under Use AMD pre defined profiles option and there is no Skyrim in that list. :S

Bf3, DEHR and a few other games are though.

Are most of you just not understanding how the application profile works?

If you don't have any CAPS Driver installed, it won't show that you are overriding the built-in ones. Probably , isn't even using it. The WHQL 11.12 nor the 12.1 included a CAPS driver from a fresh install, just downloaded 12.1 CAPS driver from AMD site. Once you do that and you select a game it'll ask you if you want to override their default settings... otherwise it'll say new game profile added if they don't have one at all.

Double check your settings.. and the point of the new feature isn't to "find" skyrim on the list... it's to add it yourself and override the setting you need. Try to actually make your own Skyrim profile like you'd like and see if it helps. It was working for me with D3 beta...

Gzero · Dec 16, 2011

Mussels said:
crossfire worked for me, even with it not showing in that list. you're supposed to add the .exe in the topmost option, and customise it yourself.

what you were doing was changing a blank profile not associated with any games - you have to choose the .exe and save it for it to make a difference.

I did add the .exe and change it to AFR before picking the .exe

Gzero · Dec 16, 2011

blandead said:
Are most of you just not understanding how the application profile works?

If you don't have any CAPS Driver installed, it won't show that you are overriding the built-in ones. Probably , isn't even using it. The WHQL 11.12 nor the 12.1 included a CAPS driver from a fresh install, just downloaded 12.1 CAPS driver from AMD site. Once you do that and you select a game it'll ask you if you want to override their default settings... otherwise it'll say new game profile added if they don't have one at all.

Double check your settings.. and the point of the new feature isn't to "find" skyrim on the list... it's to add it yourself and override the setting you need. Try to actually make your own Skyrim profile like you'd like and see if it helps. It was working for me with D3 beta...

Wakey wakey, CAPS have always been included in the driver install, go see for yourself in the 11.11 performance drivers. There are no 12.1 Caps, AMD haven't released any of a sort: http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/Catalyst121Previewdriver.aspx

I also said I can see there are predefined profiles in my CCC so...

blandead · Dec 16, 2011

okay I am aware CAPS were included in last few drivers. I meant that the official 11.12 CAPS 1 were on the site... but also said whatever CAPS you have... point is you need one installed and if uninstalled all amd drivers to test preview ones, no more CAPS because it wasn't included in 11.12 WHQL for win 7 x64. so just add the .exe yourself to the list geez.

There is not supposed to be pre-defined profiles in the CCC as far as I know it, when I add a game it asks to replace default app profile. If it didn't ask you this for Skyrim when adding TESV then something is wrong.

Mussels · Dec 17, 2011

blandead said:
There is not supposed to be pre-defined profiles in the CCC as far as I know it, when I add a game it asks to replace default app profile. If it didn't ask you this for Skyrim when adding TESV then something is wrong.

of course they're already included. the CAP profiles are just to add newer ones, instead of making you wait for a newer driver.

jonathan1107 · Dec 17, 2011

Have you guys seen a Perf. increase when using the 12.1 drivers from AMD?

Gzero · Dec 18, 2011

blandead said:
okay I am aware CAPS were included in last few drivers. I meant that the official 11.12 CAPS 1 were on the site... but also said whatever CAPS you have... point is you need one installed and if uninstalled all amd drivers to test preview ones, no more CAPS because it wasn't included in 11.12 WHQL for win 7 x64. so just add the .exe yourself to the list geez.

There is not supposed to be pre-defined profiles in the CCC as far as I know it, when I add a game it asks to replace default app profile. If it didn't ask you this for Skyrim when adding TESV then something is wrong.

Tried adding 11.10 Cap 2 and 3, which didn't have an effect. In the end I couldn't be bothered to put up with all this malarky and since I'm watching the pennies have yanked the 2nd card out and will sell it instead (spent half a day installing and reinstalling drivers still got no where). Will put the money towards a new gpu whether be a 7xxx or nvidia offering remains to be seen, however I know now not to bother ever going sli/cfx, better off selling the card rather than letting it depreciate.

Solaris17 · Dec 18, 2011

Intrestingly enough I even saw a performance increase using my aging radeon 4200 on my laptop. I was also pumped when it installed fine. Iv had to mod the previous 11.x drivers to work with the 4200 because this chip has simply become "out moded"

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