AMD Discounts the Ryzen 5000-series on its Official US Web Store, Ryzen 7 5800X3D Goes for US$329

[Aretak]

What accusation are you making? That AMD sold a product for a profit? That they sold the previously fastest gaming CPU for $450 while the 12900K it was competing with was more expensive? I'm confused as to what your claim is...

It's just another nutjob fanboy having a meltdown.

 

[trsttte]

I've been hang up on possibly buying the 5700g for a long time and this price is pretty good, but the X3D is also so low that it's even more appealing.

Need to wait to see what discounts on motherboards look like in the next couple of weeks, kinda silly buying a new AM4 board now but I need more expansion and with the X3D at these prices and still being top dog also not much sense going AM5/Intel.

 

[Space Lynx]

I've been hang up on possibly buying the 5700g for a long time and this price is pretty good, but the X3D is also so low that it's even more appealing.

Need to wait to see what discounts on motherboards look like in the next couple of weeks, kinda silly buying a new AM4 board now but I need more expansion and with the X3D at these prices and still being top dog also not much sense going AM5/Intel.

x3d is not top dog. 13600k beats it in several games.

 

[kozad]

If the 5800X3D is selling good (it obviously is), I doubt AMD will kill it because they know a consumer looking at AM4 would just look elsewhere for a deal. I imagine they will bring the X3D versions of Zen 4 to market as fast as humanly possible though and use the 5800X3D as the "budget" gaming CPU.

 

[AnotherReader]

x3d is not top dog. 13600k beats it in several games.

I think if @W1zzard did a 50 game comparison like he did recently for the 5800X3D and the 12900k, we will get a better answer. Given that the 13600k isn't much faster than the 12900k at 1080p, I think it and the 5800X3D would be very closely matched.

 

[Space Lynx]

I think if @W1zzard did a 50 game comparison like he did recently for the 5800X3D and the 12900k, we will get a better answer. Given that the 13600k isn't much faster than the 12900k at 1080p, I think it and the 5800X3D would be very closely matched.

There are loads of reviews out there, go watch and read any of them. x3d is a great chip, but its toe to toe.

personally I want to see a 50 game match up of x3d vs 13600k for games that are 7 or more years old. i bet intel will dominate in every single older game, but who i knows i might be surprised. i have a massive backlog, and older games do tend to favor intel.

so i am pretty happy with my choice of 13600k.

 

[mechtech]

With all the am4 cpu sales I wonder if there will be enough supply of motherboards??

 

[Prima.Vera]

If the discount is that big, it means that the 7800X3D is going to be a beast?

 

[AnotherReader]

There are loads of reviews out there, go watch and read any of them. x3d is a great chip, but its toe to toe.

personally I want to see a 50 game match up of x3d vs 13600k for games that are 7 or more years old. i bet intel will dominate in every single older game, but who i knows i might be surprised. i have a massive backlog, and older games do tend to favor intel.

so i am pretty happy with my choice of 13600k.

Notice I said closely matched. The 13600k is very good, but the 5800X3D is no slouch either. Also I suspect that you're right; the 5800X3D is fast because of its enormous L3 cache which won't benefit older games as much.

 

[Space Lynx]

If the discount is that big, it means that the 7800X3D is going to be a beast?

100% its going to be a beast. lets just hope AMD has the intelligence to thin out that IHS. Intel did for their 12th gen chips, or 11th gen, can't remember. and it improved temps a lot for Intel. not sure why AMD would not have learned from Intel's recent mistake on this, but eh what can you do. i don't make six figures, they do. so that's that. they the smart ones.

Notice I said closely matched. The 13600k is very good, but the 5800X3D is no slouch either. Also I suspect that you're right; the 5800X3D is fast because of its enormous L3 cache which won't benefit older games as much.

each consumer needs to buy for their own personal use case. for me thats older game backlog and also be competitive in newer games. so 13600k is perfect for me.

 

[AnotherReader]

100% its going to be a beast. lets just hope AMD has the intelligence to thin out that IHS. Intel did for their 12th gen chips, or 11th gen, can't remember. and it improved temps a lot for Intel. not sure why AMD would not have learned from Intel's recent mistake on this, but eh what can you do. i don't make six figures, they do. so that's that. they the smart ones.



each consumer needs to buy for their own personal use case. for me thats older game backlog and also be competitive in newer games. so 13600k is perfect for me.

I hear you and I agree. I have newer games too, but most of my limited gaming time is spent on relatively old games.

 

[kmetek]

why USA only?

 

[Space Lynx]

why USA only?

that's where the money and profit margins are.

 

[AnotherReader]

why USA only?

It isn't just our neighbours to the south. The price has gone down here a lot with one store selling it for the equivalent of US $313.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

I think AMD knew that a Zen4 X3D at launch would have muddied the waters too much and would have made the 7950X look less appealing.

Notice I said closely matched. The 13600k is very good, but the 5800X3D is no slouch either. Also I suspect that you're right; the 5800X3D is fast because of its enormous L3 cache which won't benefit older games as much.

I would actually expect it to swing the other way, as older games had simpler engines and might not need to go to RAM nearly as much as modern titles might. A really old game might not hit the memory at all! Just guessing though.

 

[Space Lynx]

I think AMD knew that a Zen4 X3D at launch would have muddied the waters too much and would have made the 7950X look less appealing.

I would actually expect it to swing the other way, as older games had simpler engines and might not need to go to RAM nearly as much as modern titles might. A really old game might not hit the memory at all! Just guessing though.

and they needed to get the old zen3 stock sold off first. its no different than what nvidia is doing by only producing high end 4090 and 4080 only for next year or so. and pushing out old stock.

capitalism is capitalism, got to just chill and go with the flow

 

[mkppo]

Yup! That $64M+, etc. lost agrees with that TRUTH.

You do realise that most of it is because of post merger amortization? The actual profit still exceeds 1 bn. Furthermore, there's no such thing as real price. The 5800X3D was reasonably priced from the start for a CPU that was one of the, if not the fastest gaming CPU at the time and still is. This price cut just makes it an insane deal for gaming pared with cheap ddr4 3200 and a b550 board.

 

[AnotherReader]

I think AMD knew that a Zen4 X3D at launch would have muddied the waters too much and would have made the 7950X look less appealing.

I would actually expect it to swing the other way, as older games had simpler engines and might not need to go to RAM nearly as much as modern titles might. A really old game might not hit the memory at all! Just guessing though.

That is why I expect the extra cache to be of less benefit; these older games should see a marginal improvement going from 32 MB to 96 MB. TPU reports that the extra cache makes the 5800X3D only 3.4% faster than the 5800X in Witcher 3 at 1080p. On the other hand, the 12900k isn't doing much better either; it's only 6.3% faster than the 5800X.

Edit: Love the username; one of my favourite TNG episodes.

 

[Darmok N Jalad]

That is why I expect the extra cache to be of less benefit; these older games should see a marginal improvement going from 32 MB to 96 MB. TPU reports that the extra cache makes the 5800X3D only 3.4% faster than the 5800X in Witcher 3 at 1080p. On the other hand, the 12900k isn't doing much better either; it's only 6.3% faster than the 5800X.

Edit: Love the username; one of my favourite TNG episodes.

I think that says something right there. The 12900k has a 6.3% boost clock advantage over the 5800X, while the 5800X3D has a 9% disadvantage to the 5800X in clockspeed. If the X3D ran at the same clocks as 5800X, it could be quite the story to tell. So even an old title is getting a boost from that L3, despite being at a distinct disadvantage in terms of clockspeed. It used to be that faster frequencies were the best way to get more out of old titles, but the X3D is standing some old conventions on their heads. I really do think this is the future of gaming CPUs, but AMD and Intel might struggle to market it correctly. The CPU with the highest clocks and core counts may no longer be the most desirable product to a gamer.

 

[AnotherReader]

I think that says something right there. The 12900k has a 6.3% boost clock advantage over the 5800X, while the 5800X3D has a 9% disadvantage to the 5800X in clockspeed. If the X3D ran at the same clocks as 5800X, it could be quite the story to tell. So even an old title is getting a boost from that L3, despite being at a distinct disadvantage in terms of clockspeed. It used to be that faster frequencies were the best way to get more out of old titles, but the X3D is standing some old conventions on their heads. I really do think this is the future of gaming CPUs, but AMD and Intel might struggle to market it correctly. The CPU with the highest clocks and core counts may no longer be the most desirable product to a gamer.

Very right; the 5800X3D's lead is far more impressive when you consider its low clocks. For gamers on AMD platforms wanting high fps, the 3D cache variants will be the ones to look out for; no sense in wasting money on 16 core monstrosities.

 

[Octavean]

So temping but I vowed to do AM5 build.

I‘d like to build an AM5 7950X based system or 7900X but I can’t justify the cost of either processor with X670(E) motherboard and DDR5 RAM at the moment. Local Microcenter stores have a bundle deal where 7000 series processor + X670(E) motherboard gets you free 32GB of DDR5. I just can’t make the numbers work. If AMD had a cheap 7000G AM5 APU in the ~$150 range I could make it work to get in on the new platform. Then upgrade the CPU in a year or so But that’s wishful thinking.

Anyway, I bought a 5900X at ~$348 so I can build a secondary system since I already have an extra AM4 motherboard and some extra DDR4 RAM. Microcenter had the 5900X for even cheaper at ~$339 USD IIRC but I couldn’t be arsed with driving there. The difference in price is almost certainly made up for in petrol.

 

[GunShot]

The 5800X3D was reasonably priced

Subjective. If the product were already gouged from the top, any reduction to it would seem unicorn. An ILLUSION!

This price cut just makes it an insane deal

Abra Kadabra!

 

[RH92]

EU gets shafted as per usual ( member those AM5 mobo + CPU + ram deals exclusive to NA ) , thank you AMD. Oh well im sure Europeans can return the favor to AMD !

 

[TheLostSwede]

EU gets shafted as per usual ( member those AM5 mobo + CPU + ram deals exclusive to NA ) , thank you AMD. Oh well im sure Europeans can return the favor to AMD !

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The 5800X3D is €10 more here. I guess it's to do with VAT differences.

 

[RH92]

The 5800X3D is €10 more here. I guess it's to do with VAT differences.

You mean on AMD store for Sweden ? Yes surely it has do withg VAT but i wonder what the massive difference between NA and EU pricing has to do with ? Or why is only NA getting exclusive discounts on AM5/7000 series ? I mean other than the obvious and pathetic customer discrimination. I believe media should put a little bit more emphasis on that stuff because had that been Intel or Nvidia they would't get a free pass !